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Would you spend €100+ on Paul Pogba??

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thats well deserved for the welsh men. I truly believe if ramsey was playing they would of definitely beat portugal. Portugal's midfield was begging to be tossed and spread about on the pitch by anybody, had ramsey been there, gareth would of been way more prominent the entire match. Their run was great fun to watch nonetheless.


..Apparently subotic was going to either Koln or Midd*****rough but Arsene submitted a formal bid and hopes to hold talks with him over the weekend. interesting
 
Ronaldo is GOAT for the moment. Messi is GOAT of all time.
 
:lol can't wait until CR7 disappoints all you slurping fanboys

He hasn't even been the best player for Portugal in this tourney, Nani has (completely srs, not even trolling)
 
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Problem with some of you mf'ers in here is you keep trying to bring other fans down to prove your the bigger fan or your allegiance to your club is more authentic. It's such an American supporter complex. I truly don't care how long any of you have supported your clubs. What I do care about is that you contribute with thoughtful opinions and arguments. Ya can miss me with that other bs
 
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Oh I enjoy banter .. And give it as much as I get... I'm speaking to the people in here who get emotional about it.
 
Jurgen Klinsmann hails U.S. advances but calls foundation 'fragile'

United States coach Jurgen Klinsmann has told CNN he believes the foundation for soccer in the United States is "fragile and disconnected" in comparison to some of the systems in place for world football powers such as England, Germany, Spain and France.

Klinsmann, 51, said that the growth of the sport in America has been remarkable and believes soccer has truly arrived in the nation.

However, the California-based coach called the challenges facing the U.S. a complicated puzzle compared to other countries and one that's "not perfect yet" in a wide-ranging interview.

"The foundation in the United States is still fragile and disconnected compared to other countries," Klinsmann said. "The youth leagues do their own thing, the professional system is not really connected to the amateur system, and that's not really connected to the college system.

"So there are holes in the system, like in a Swiss cheese, and there's a loss of quality. We're working on connecting those pieces, on connecting player development, and on continuing to build a pyramid in this amazing country."


Klinsmann led the national team to the country's best-ever finish in a Copa America at the competition's 100th anniversary edition, which was hosted in the U.S. last month.

The fourth-place finish came after winning a challenging group and advancing to the semifinals, before being outclassed 4-0 by Lionel Messi and Argentina and then losing to Colombia in the third-place playoff.

"It's a bigger puzzle in the United States than in other countries, and it's not perfect yet. That's what makes it so exciting; we're building something great here," Klinsmann said. "We don't have a system in place like France or Germany or even South American countries.

"If you look at the FA in England, it's more than 100 years old and they already have their infrastructure, scouting, coaches' education, national training center, and the pyramid is connected.

"There's relatively little infrastructure work to do in England because it's all there. Here in the United States, building that infrastructure is still important. That's what's so fascinating and rewarding about this."

Klinsmann said he understands the frustrations of U.S. fans who want to compete at the highest level with the world's top teams, but the Germans urged patience by saying there's "no gain without pain."

He added: "The transition is happening step by step. We're playing against the bigger nations, we're attacking those bigger nations and holding our own against them.

"There's no growth without taking risks. And there's no growth without failure along the way. We're getting out of our comfort zone, and we're making some big strides forward.

"The next step is to become one of the best soccer nations in the world. The USMNT has become an important engine for growth in the United States. We're trying to do everything we can to make the national team as successful as possible in the World Cup, which is the benchmark for everyone around the world."
 
One thing I'll never take away from Klinsmann, he certainly understands the bigger picture, he has his own personal vision for the sport in this country, and he's legitimately passionate about it.

We were recently joking about JK getting paid $4.5M to scout and monitor players from his Orange County mansion but that man is pursuing and fulfilling his life's work. Can't take that away from him.

Passion isn't enough though. I still feel we need someone with greater qualifications and more formal training in the technical director and/or director of coaching roles.
 
:lol can't wait until CR7 disappoints all you slurping fanboys

He hasn't even been the best player for Portugal in this tourney, Nani has (completely srs, not even trolling)

Actually it's been Pepe, even though he missed Wales though injury, but Nani gets a fair shout.

On a different note, why do people keep suggesting Griezmann will be on the move? Just signed an extension at Athleti where he is absolutely idolized. Can't think of many others more important to Athleti's club identity other than arguably Simeone, Godin, and Gabi.

One thing I'll never take away from Klinsmann, he certainly understands the bigger picture, he has his own personal vision for the sport in this country, and he's legitimately passionate about it.

We were recently joking about JK getting paid $4.5M to scout and monitor players from his Orange County mansion but that man is pursuing and fulfilling his life's work. Can't take that away from him.

Passion isn't enough though. I still feel we need someone with greater qualifications and more formal training in the technical director and/or director of coaching roles.

Let's be honest though, what more established manager is willing to take the US job? Money aside, the job isn't very glamorous. Poor selection of players, relatively high expectations that are frankly unrealistic, and a poor domestic league. Klinsmann also hit the nail on the head with the complete disconnect of youth though the professional level. It's a very difficult job to be "successful" in. He's being tipped to be in the running for the England job, even though thats a challenge in itself. At least the selection of players is much more competitive.
 
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Problem with some of you mf'ers in here is you keep trying to bring other fans down to prove your the bigger fan or your allegiance to your club is more authentic. It's such an American supporter complex. I truly don't care how long any of you have supported your clubs. What I do care about is that you contribute with thoughtful opinions and arguments. Ya can miss me with that other bs

Cool story bro.
 
 
One thing I'll never take away from Klinsmann, he certainly understands the bigger picture, he has his own personal vision for the sport in this country, and he's legitimately passionate about it.

We were recently joking about JK getting paid $4.5M to scout and monitor players from his Orange County mansion but that man is pursuing and fulfilling his life's work. Can't take that away from him.

Passion isn't enough though. I still feel we need someone with greater qualifications and more formal training in the technical director and/or director of coaching roles.
Let's be honest though, what more established manager is willing to take the US job? Money aside, the job isn't very glamorous. Poor selection of players, relatively high expectations that are frankly unrealistic, and a poor domestic league. Klinsmann also hit the nail on the head with the complete disconnect of youth though the professional level. It's a very difficult job to be "successful" in. He's being tipped to be in the running for the England job, even though thats a challenge in itself. At least the selection of players is much more competitive.
I'm talking about the Director of Football/Director of Coaching/Technical Director roles. Directing a club or federation isn't a glamorous position.

Building infrastructure and connecting the youth to the pro game ins't the responsibility of the senior team manager.  Managing vs directing call for two entirely different methodological ways of thinking. Completely different skill sets, completely different job functions. At the end of the day Klinsmann, has zero experience as a director of coaching.

All that said, I have to disagree with you on the circumstances surrounding the USMNT manager job. It may not be glamorous but it's also extremely low pressure, almost balances each otherout. It may be a poor selection of players relative to the top 15 national teams in the world, but it's damn near amazing relative to teams outside the top 30.

MLS might be poor compared La Liga or even Ligue 1, but it's still top 10 in attendance in the world, and growing in quality at a rate far faster than any other league.  I know this thread is heavy on the MLS bashing but in the scope of global domestic football, MLS isn't a poor domestic league, it just isn't.  

The reasons you listed might keep the games elite managers away (though coaches like Pep are on record saying they want to coach the USMNT one day) but Klinsmann isn't elite. He might even be closer to average than good.  I beg to differ that the Klinsmann is the best manager the USMNT can hope for due to the unique circumstances and challenges surrounding the job. 
 
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