🦉The Official Drake Thread6️⃣ - Drake & PND Album Fall 2024

Hov took lines from other rappers and got help on a few hooks, and he's considered to be one of the goats. This ghostwriting stuff isn't what people make it out to be since hella people get some modicum of help.
Hov's hooks aren't why he's considered one of the greats, tho.
 
It's really just a drake hater thing Kanye not from the ghetto and sings and Cole lightskin and wasn't a good broke no one calls them soft tho

Exactly. This fixation on "what's real" in Hip-Hop (and black culture as a whole is stupid.) 

Like, To prefer Meek over Drake is cool, it's all preference at the end of the day. 

But to call Meek's music "realer" than Drake's and to say Meek has "a story" and Drake doesn't, shows a clear allegiance and bias to a certain image that you associate and Identify w/ Hip-Hop and with Rap Music, all of which is clear as day with Rosenberg when it comes to Drake. 

And if we keeping it a buck, performing a grammy nominated diss record about you, in your city, is about as "real" and as "Hip-Hop" as you can get. Dissing the radio station that tried to end you, in their city, is as "real" as it can get.

I'm sayin' tho... Had someone went to toronto and did this, oh man we'd never hear the end of it :{

Drake a whole thug. He stamped in all the hoods in America. Got the pass in Detroit, not just any rapper can get a pass like that.

Gifan or whatever had a mental breakdown in that thread. :lol

Fight me Maxi


Drake is hard! He got a pass to perform in Detroit. Y'all bugging!!!

Fight me
 
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:lol the "he realer than you" was the funniest **** I heard in a minute. That's what you say when you're losing. Literally.
 
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Crazy, 6-7 years ago, Wayne was the bigger artist. Now Drake is running the show​


Once artist simply made better music with his writing cabinet. The other lost his writing cabinet, made worse music than he was already making, and gave up his butt/dignity a long time ago.​
 
You know the thing I never understood about pusha t diss is how you gon talk about who somebody is signed to or how many ppl getting paid off somebody when they make more money than you. Like way more :lol what does it matter? I could be signed to 50 ppl and? Like if I'm breaking bread with them and I STILL clear more than you then how can you talk :lol
 
I've heard a lot of negatives about Hovs career over the years and even agreed with some (especially that corny euro HOV nonsense :{ ). Today is honestly the first day I've ever seen someone refer to him as getting/needing help with his raps

Grasping for anything to defend Drake

You can listen to other rappers and producers talk about Jay and the admiration in which they do it. Not dudes from a different generation, but dudes who came up with him like Sauce and or Beans. Even dudes who had a problem with him like Game or Joe Budden.
 
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You know the thing I never understood about pusha t diss is how you gon talk about who somebody is signed to or how many ppl getting paid off somebody when they make more money than you. Like way more :lol what does it matter? I could be signed to 50 ppl and? Like if I'm breaking bread with them and I STILL clear more than you then how can you talk :lol

I love Pusha more than any other rapper not named Hov and I always thought that was a stupid argument when it came to Drake.


Drake is about his bread, he ain't out here getting shafted like Wayne.


I also found it funny because Pusha is in the exact situation himself, he's signed to GOOD which isn't even a real label like that just part of an umbrella.



Not even going to get into comparing them from an actual rap standpoint though because Pusha blows him out the water, he's just not even 30% as popular.
 
Idc about this argument but "Meek Mill is a great rapper with a story to tell" might be the most ridiculous thing said throughout this entire exchange.
 
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Drake is hard! He got a pass to perform in Detroit. Y'all bugging!!!
stop it. he performed at the palace arena, not some hood club

you don't need passes when you're doing arenas and have legal armed security and police escort

LOL @ these meek mill hood rats thinking they can press drake at an arena

dudes will get lit up quick. legally
 
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Idc about this argument but "Meek Mill is a great rapper with a story to tell" might be the most ridiculous thing said throughout this entire exchange.
Drake did an interview back about what being "real" is, and I agree
 Well, here’s the thing. I think what people often get misconstrued is there’s a sonic real and there’s a connection real. So, often people are like, “This isn’t real,” because to them real is a sound. It’s sonic. It’s not gritty. It’s not hip-hop. There’s no boom-bap to it. It’s 40 playing sweet-*** chords and filtered drums. That’s not real to them.

That’s just people whose ears are trained for a certain sound, and they feel that’s hip-hop. More power to them. I respect that. If you have a genre that you’re passionate about or a type of music that you’re passionate about, I salute you for that.

I love when people get upset and say my music isn’t hip-hop. I’m like, “That’s great. You’re passionate about something.” I’m not saying I agree with it, but I’m glad to see they’re passionate about something.

Sonically you can do whatever you want, but if you can get those words on there that are refreshing, even if we’re all saying the same thing, which is, “I have money. I have *******. My swag is way up.” We may all be saying the same thing if you really break it down to the core of what we’re really getting at. I mean, it’s a couple things.

You know how many times I’ve regrettably hit a girl drunk and played that exact same moment out and never thought to make a song about it? Then one night I was like, “What a ******* song.”

Why wouldn’t I do that? Who doesn’t have that moment? This is unanimous—any culture, any race. Everyone’s been in love. Everybody has someone that they just go to. I know there’s one girl...

Listen, I’m back in the city, I’ve pushed my album back, I have leeway, I know there’s one person I want to see. I’m going to hit her no matter what. I don’t even have to be drunk, and that’s the same girl I would hit when I’m wasted just to say, “I love you.” Even if I really don’t.

We all have those moments when it’s gratifying to us at that time. **** like that, man, to me, that **** is it. Anyone that can do that, there’s beautiful, beautiful songs. I just love when it resonates with people.

Frank Ocean did this song called “Thinking About You.” That’s like, one of my favorite songs I’ve heard in a lot of years man. That’s real ****. Just based off the words, it’s like, “Damn.” It’s simple thought. It’s a simple emotion, but he just pinpointed so many specific things.

Like, when he says, “A tornado flew around my room before you came/Excuse the mess it made/It usually doesn’t rain in Southern California,” I remember bringing girls back to my messy room like, “Damn, my bad about this ****.” [Laughs.] That’s real ****. That’s life. To get those emotions through music is life to me. That’s life to me. That’s what real is to me.
 
& Rosenburg opinion should matter because?


This is the same guy who tried to diss Nicki Minaj and then had to apologize with his tail between his legs.


Same guy who be talking that stupid "real hip hop" **** yet works for Hot 97.


He's a ho, miss me with any of his thoughts
i agree with everything here

ebro/rosenberg/breakfast club all their opinions don't matter. they're nobodies. they're leeches feeding off of talented artists

he only dissed nicki cause shes a woman. any other rapper would've ran up on him with a quickness (pressing a fat white boy ain't gonna earn you stripes but still)
 
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