2002 WCFs Kings vs Lakers Game 6: "The Greatest Tragedy in Sports" YouTube vid'

Originally Posted by holdenmichael

Laker Fans You guys were whinning and pouting when Boston did you guys dirty last year.


How is that relevant?

If the Lakers were the better team, they would have been able to get past any perceived bad officiating or at least held on to a 24 point lead in Game 4. Same goes for those Kings.
I'm just saying that people act like we're still whining about this game/series. But in reality, the past is the past. We can't goback and change the game.
It's done.
Kings fans including myself are already over this disaster. Well most of us.
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stupid video

the only legit non call was when fisher stripped bibby...that was a foul

-Shaq kept getting pushed with the defenders body and that's why they were called fouls.
-Notice how the video does not show a REPLAY of Vlade's 6th foul
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-Christie undercut Kobe with his leg on that layup attempt foul
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-Shaq did that free throw violation since he came into the league
-Bibby was grabbing Kobe before he got elbowed, it should have been a free throw + the ball for the lakers
-Why is the video maker asking for a flagrant on shaq? Shaq went for the ball
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-IN GAME 5 JACKSON FOULED KOBE ON THE GAME WINNING ATTEMPT AND IT WASN'T CALLED
 
after watching this video, some of these were terrible calls and some of them were legit calls, when i say legit calls, i mean that the only response that ican think of that somebody would use to argue against them is that "you should let them play" which is understandable

1. that play where their looking for a flagrant on shaq, looked to me like he was going for the ball, isnt that what determines a flagrant? this whole notionof an extra possession with two minutes left could have secured a Sac victory is pretty petty

2. that illegal screen on pollard is arguably legitimate to me in that his feet were definitely not set, looked like he was slowly walking forward but maybeits just me - this is one of those cases where u could argue about "letting them play"

3. that play at the end with kobe's elbow, was it clearly a foul? maybe, maybe not, how come there arent more angles? it could have easily have been aflop on bibbys part just as much as it could have been a foul on kobe. again, blaming the loss on a "missed foul opportunity" seems petty to meespecially when they didnt have the ball, were the lakers in the penalty?

4. the first play, where it looks like scott pollard loses the ball due to what looks like a foul and then runs back and "fouls" kobe - this isntthe first time we've ever seen that happen in a game, especially a playoff game, we've seen homecourt situations like these numerous times andwe'll continue to see them

5. shaq's 13 of 17 freethrows, i dont know what to say here other than that im sure those are violations and that they should not have counted - so thisseems like a valid argument to me, BUT honestly, his foot moved forwardevery time like a second after the ball was in the air and 13/17 for SHAQ seems pretty impressive to me, but its still a violation

-- as for the rest of those fouls that they called, vlade's 6th, pollard's 6th, Cwebb's 5th - all terrible calls, i guess on CWebb's 5th foulyou could have argued that it should have been a foul on Horry and that that could have given the kings the lead but its more petty arguing to say that CWebbwould have knocked those down and that it would have secured a kings victory

*** so all in all, i can understand why people would say that game was obviously fixed, do i think it was fixed? probably, i may even go as far as saying that chances of it being fixed were wayhigher than it not being fixed due to all the terrible foul calls at the end,

but you could also argue that it was the type of situation where those starters should never have been in those situations, howd pollard get his other 3 fouls?how'd vlade get his other 5 fouls? how'd cwebb get his other 4 fouls? the video doesnt show this kind of stuff
 
That video reminded me of how much Shaq at one point couldn't leave the cheeseburgersalone.
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damn thats crazy...i never saw the game so just saw the vid...the kings got screwed outta some calls..just goes to show refs play a big part probably just asbig as the players to determine the outcome
 
has anyone noticed that these stupid useless 2002 western conference finals game 6 we got screwed worse then bret hart in the 97 survior series threads getmade once every month or so, and every time there made there made with a one sided argument.

game 4. true samaki walkers buzzer beater before halftime shouldn't have counted but if you can't keep a 22 point lead with a chance to go up 3-1 andhave the next game on your home court you don't deserve to win point blank.

games 5 and 6 even out imo crappy calls and blatant no calls on BOTH sides in those games costed each team a win. The Lakers had game 5 won, and Sacramentocould have won game 6.

game 7 was the ultimate choke job 16-30 from the free throw line on your home court says it all. if you can't shoot over 50% from the free throw line in apivotal game your a scared cowardly choking team.
 
The Kings shot more free throws in the series than the Lakers. In every Kings win, they shot 10 or more FT's than the Lakers. In every Lakers win exceptfor game 6, the FT attempts between the Lakers and Kings were about the same.

BTW, the Kings would've won game 7 had they made their FT's. I believe they missed half of their FT attempts in game 7.
 
I'm a laker fan and hated doug christie with a passion, but after watching these videos the kings got robbed BADLY
 
Kings choked in this series and Kings fans still 7 years later cant deal with the truth.

The Kings had home court advantage lost Game 1 at home. Then Kings fans resorted to food poisoning Kobe's cheese burger before game 2 .

They had game 7 on the Kings home court and guess what Kings got the foul call they cried about not getting in game 6 and they CHOKED and threw up BRICKS allgame long in game 7.

Kings fans are pretty pathetic if they have nothing better to do than live in the past and create a 7 part series of videos on youtube over game 6

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Originally Posted by ptngina

The Kings shot more free throws in the series than the Lakers. In every Kings win, they shot 10 or more FT's than the Lakers. In every Lakers win except for game 6, the FT attempts between the Lakers and Kings were about the same.

BTW, the Kings would've won game 7 had they made their FT's. I believe they missed half of their FT attempts in game 7.

they went either 16 for 30 or 14 for 30 from the line if im not mistaken. my main issue is them blowing big leads also, like i said they can complain aboutrobert horry and samaki in game 4 but you don't deserve to win when you choke big leads away.

in game 4 of the 2008 finals the lakers deserved to lose that game and that finals when they let a huge chance to gain the momentum and take over the seriesslip away, the same applies for sacramento, had they won game 4 imo theres no way they lose that series.
 
watch all the videos and then comment. it was proven that series was tim donaghy status. refs in general are horrible in the nba. i think i'd be ejectedevery game lol
 
Shaq's free throws are a violation each time- the shooter has to wait for the ball to hit before he can enter the paint. He commits a violation by doingso.

Kings should have been able to finish it off in game 7, but if these bad calls/missed calls were not a factor, game 7 would have never happened.
 
This is where the momentum changed in this series and like the title of the video says: The Shot That Finished The Queens
 
Wild footage. (complete with 'JFK' movie score!)

This game is the prime example of Stern's post-Jordan NBA. The league and its fans needed a new dynasty. What better than a Shaq/Kobe-led Lakers team - bigmarket, popular team known around the world. Reaching, you say? Is it so hard to believe?

Putting forth the argument that 'Lakers were the better team anyway' or 'Lakers got some poor calls, too' has nothing to do with how the KINGSwere handled.

Forget game 7 and the missed ft's (even though that is ridiculous), GAME 6 is where the most egregious, obvious calls were made.

The whole point of the video is to show how the refs deliberately called certain fouls and how they deliberately looked the other way on other fouls.

This game 6, and the whole series, was either rigged or not rigged, one of the two.

Based on watching this game, and the entire series, can anyone conclusively say it wasn't rigged?

There's enough evidence to suggest it was rigged, and very little if any to suggest it wasn't.

Rigged > Not Rigged.

(Anyone who knows basketball should also know that refs know the game. They know player tendencies, how to interrupt or promote the flow of the game. Thesefactors play whether you believe so or not.)
 
Originally Posted by Kidskillz858

Kings FT stat's from Game 7:

FT Attempt : 33
FT Made: 16

53% team total.

Guess what Lakers had the same amount of FT attempts in that game 7 at Sacramento:

Lakers FT stat's from Game 7:

FT Attempt: 33
FT made: 27

81% team total

Link:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200206020SAC.htmlhttp://www.basketball-ref...xscores/200206020SAC.html

Kings CHOKED plain & simple on they're home court during game 7 .
Yup, definitely I agree sadly
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if you bet on the nba you would realize how rigged the nba can be.....seriously....sorta like how denver was 1 point favs over the bulls....the obvious suckerwould take the nuggets....but guess who won the bulls
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As a die hard Kings fan I feel that game 7 should've never happened because game 6 was one of the biggest screw jobs ever....

With that said that still doesn't change the fact that there was still ONE more game to win and we didn't win it....Shoulda grew a sack and manned upplain and simple....I'm still pissed about game 6 but even more so over game 7. How the hell you have the best home court in all of sports and can'tmanage to win...and it wasn't like we weren't equally matched cuz we were stacked...no screw job can pardon the fact that you made only 53 percent ofyour free throws AT HOME in game 7....I feel my blood pressure rising again just thinking about that %$** man....

Man I loved that damn team
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oh well we tankin now for that number one draft pick!!!
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Originally Posted by LoveOfTheGame916

As a die hard Kings fan I feel that game 7 should've never happened because game 6 was one of the biggest screw jobs ever....
I'm saying

It had to be tough to go out not thinking about how bad the refs were the last game. Then trying to just win. Game 7 should have never happened.
 
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You guys plan on commenting on how game 5 was taken from us?
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Shaq fouled out in less then 3 quarters guarding Vlade and ponytail of all people.
Kobe left the court with half a jersey
Webber traveled more then Lebron to pick Fisher on Bibby's jumper.

So was game 6 that much worse then game 5, or we just seeing what we wanna see?
 
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