2010 Official Boxing Thread: Soto/Antillon, 2010 Fight of the Year.

I'm gonna say Manny's straight lefts are harder.  But Mosley and Cotto will have the harder hooks.  Mosley especially winds em up and follows through.   Manny obviously much faster. 
It will be interesting.  Manny will go up to 151 or whatever the catchweight is 
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How many PPV buys did Marquez vs Diaz do?  

and I'm just putting it out there James Kirkland is also overrated I view him similar to Alfredo Angulo he can be outboxed easily. All you need is a strong chin and be able to do what Kermit Cintron did and Kirkland gets exposed.

I never bought into the hype of Jacobs or Angulo and I feel the same about Kirkland.
 
There's no such thing as an easy day at the office when you're up against Glen Johnson.
With Glen Johnson there is no trash talk. No bluster. No insults. He just packs his gloves and heads to wherever the next fight is to give it his best.

This time it will be at the Scottrade Center in St. Louis, where "The Road Warrior" will challenge Tavoris Cloud for his light heavyweight title on Saturday (HBO, 10 p.m. ET/PT).

The main event will feature the homecoming of unified junior welterweight titlist Devon Alexander (20-0, 13 KOs) against former titlist Andreas Kotelnik (31-3-1, 13 KOs) of Ukraine. In a third title bout, one that is not part of HBO's broadcast, St. Louis' Cory Spinks (37-5, 11 KOs) will defend his junior middleweight title against mandatory challenger Cornelius "K9" Bundrage (29-4, 17 KOs).

For the 41-year-old Johnson, the fight with Cloud, who is a 28-year-old making his first title defense, could be the end of the line with a loss.

That Johnson is even in position to fight for a title is surprising. In November, Chad Dawson handled him with ease in their rematch. Afterward, Johnson talked about retiring after a career in which he found late success by winning the light heavyweight championship, knocking out Roy Jones Jr., splitting two big money fights with a prime Antonio Tarver and claiming 2004 fighter of the year honors.

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But not long after the second loss to Dawson, boxing's ultimate blue-collar fighter decided to give it one more try. He was in good position with the IBF and took a February title eliminator against Yusaf Mack, an ESPN2-televised bout for which Johnson received a paltry $12,000 purse, a pittance compared to what he typically earned.

Johnson (50-13-2, 34 KOs), a native of Jamaica living in Miami, did it for the opportunity. He knocked out Mack, 30, in the sixth round to earn the mandatory shot at Cloud (20-0, 18 KOs), whose notable victories came against faded former titlists Clinton Woods and Julio Gonzalez.

"I took it just for the opportunity," Johnson said. "A lot of times you fight for money, and then sometimes, in my situation, you have to fight for opportunities. That's how I look at that situation. So, just the fact that I was able to do what I did and come back strong after losing a fight to Chad Dawson, it was a good opportunity for me to come back and be able to make a statement. And looking forward to completing that statement now."

Cloud isn't impressed by Johnson's résumé and sounded dismissive of him when they spoke to reporters on a recent teleconference to promote the fight.

"I don't think Glen Johnson is the fighter that he used to be, and I don't think I will have any problems winning the fight," said Cloud, of Tallahassee, Fla.

Wasn't he at least a little impressed by how he thrashed Mack?

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Javiel Centeno/Fightwireimages.comGlen Johnson, left, might be 41, but it would be foolish of Tavoris Cloud to dismiss him as a has-been.

"I'm not impressed," he said. "Not impressed. I watched the fight. I watched the Johnson and Yusaf Mack fight, and to me it didn't look like Yusaf Mack was in any kind of shape to be fighting. He basically gave up. I don't believe that Glen Johnson was fighting a fighter who had a strong mind that night. I can look at Yusaf Mack, and I know that [Johnson will] be fighting a different kind of fighter in me."

No biggie for Johnson, who always has been the kind of guy to let his fists do the talking.

"I don't have to talk a lot of noise. To me, it's all about stepping in the ring and doing what you do. That's what I've been doing for many years," said Johnson, a pro for 17 years. "I'm never somebody who ever disrespects anybody. That's not my style. I go in the ring and do my work. That's what I'm paid for, and that's what I'm prepared to do."

Given how Johnson and Cloud fight -- with come-forward, aggressive styles -- their pairing has the makings for an action-packed fight, and that's what both have in mind.

"Glen comes right at you, and nobody will be running in this fight," Cloud said. "That's not my style. Glen is a good fighter, and so am I. St. Louis will get more than their money's worth."

Said Johnson: "I see a lot of similarity in my style and Tavoris Cloud's style. He likes to come forward, and so do I. We're both going into the kitchen to do some cooking, and St. Louis will get the meal."

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Even at 41 and with so many tough fights under his belt -- including fights with Bernard Hopkins, three with Woods, Gonzalez, Sven Ottke, Eric Harding, two with Tarver and two with Dawson -- Johnson remains in top physical condition and is still hungry for another title.

"I'm blessed," he said. "I'm in that elite few that still can do sports at that age when most people say you shouldn't able to do it. So, I'm very thankful that I'm able to do what I do at this age, and I don't know what the answer is. People ask me all the time, 'How you do it?' And I say, 'I just train hard.' I don't have any bad habits as far as drinking and smoking or drugs or anything like that. I don't know if it's just genes.

"I don't know what it is, but I'm still able to do it, and I'm doing it well. I'm thankful and I go out there and try to represent myself well each and every time."

Dan Rafael is the boxing writer for ESPN.com.



LAS VEGAS -- Boxer Floyd Mayweather Jr. is being sued for unpaid rent and breach of contract after his promotions company was evicted from a Las Vegas office.

Mayweather lawyer Jeff Morse on Thursday downplayed the July 27 eviction of Mayweather Promotions LLC from what he said was a substandard building.

He said the company was going to move anyway and has reopened. He declined to say where.

Attorney Ross Goodman says Mayweather owed almost $63,000 in outstanding rent and never notified the landlord of any property problems.

Mayweather earned more than $20 million in May from his fight in Las Vegas against "Sugar" Shane Mosley.

A court date hasn't been set in the civil lawsuit filed against Mayweather in Clark County District Court by landlord TDF Investments LLC.

Copyright 2010 by The Associated Press


 
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[h4]Alexander's hard work, dedication paying off[/h4]

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Emily Harney/Fightwireimages.comDevon Alexander serves as an example to the people of his city and his fellow fighters.

ST. LOUIS -- Devon Alexander toiled in Las Vegas training for the past eight weeks. He ran up rugged Mt. Charleston in the blazing heat every morning, miles at a time. He sparred in the afternoon. And, while staying at one of promoter Don King's homes just off the famed Strip, slept in the bed Mike Tyson used when he too trained there.

For Alexander, the 23-year-old unified junior welterweight titleholder, all the hard work was a lead-up to a homecoming for his first world title fight in his beloved St. Louis, where he defends his belts against former titlist Andreas Kotelnik (31-3-1, 13 KOs) of Ukraine at the Scottrade Center on Saturday night (HBO, 10 ET/PT).

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In the televised opener, Tavoris Cloud (20-0, 18 KOs) makes the first defense of his light heavyweight belt against former champion Glen Johnson (50-13-2, 34 KOs). In another world title bout (although one that isn't part of the HBO telecast), St. Louis' Cory Spinks (37-5, 11 KOs) makes a mandatory defense of his junior middleweight title against Cornelius "K9" Bundrage (29-4, 17 KOs).

Alexander was lights out last August, when he made former titlist Junior Witter quit on his stool after eight rounds to win a vacant title. Then Alexander was even more impressive when he starched Juan Urango with an brilliant uppercut in the eighth round in March to unify two of the 140-pound belts.

Now, Alexander faces the rugged, 32-year-old Kotelnik -- a 2000 Olympic silver medalist and the only man to hang a loss on fearsome puncher Marcos Maidana, but who also has losses to Witter and titleholder Amir Khan -- hoping to thrill the hometown faithful and move on to massive business in one of boxing's most loaded divisions.

As far as fighting at home, especially as a defending champion, Alexander was almost at a loss for words.

"Oh, man, it's a great, great, great feeling," Alexander said. "I mean, from coming in on the undercard, fighting first on the undercards of guys that I saw and admired for years, to become a main event at home at Scottrade Center, the biggest arena in St. Louis, I mean, it's a blessing because most people, they don't get an opportunity like I do, coming from where I come from."

Where he came from is one of the roughest neighborhoods in the nation, in North St. Louis. While numerous childhood friends and gymmates fell to gangs and drugs -- many are dead or incarcerated, including Alexander's brother, Vaughn, who is doing 18 years for armed robbery -- Alexander (20-0, 13 KOs) made it out and made it big.

"My whole career, I have counseled young boxers that they have an opportunity to do great things, win titles and earn the type of money normally reserved for people of a different background," King said. "Then here comes Devon, a kid from Vashon High, who not only is tearing up one of the toughest divisions in boxing, but he wants to be a role model for kids in St. Louis and around the country. This young man is special. He is a gift from God."

It's the stuff of TV movies.

Fox Sports Midwest liked Alexander's story so much that it produced an inspiring, 30-minute documentary -- "Gateway to Greatness: The Devon Alexander Story" -- that premiered Thursday night.

St. Louis Rams coach Steve Spagnuolo was so impressed by Alexander after a recent promotional visit to Rams training camp that he arranged a team bus trip to see the fight.

"I have a great deal of respect for what boxers go through to prepare for a fight," Spagnuolo said. "Devon is a local talent, and it was important for us that he knows the entire Rams organization is behind him and wish him the best Saturday night."

To hear trainer and manager Kevin Cunningham, Alexander's father figure since he picked up gloves as a kid, his star pupil not only avoided the temptations of the street, but he never had so much as a neighborhood fight.

"Devon is the perfect example of what you can do with hard work and dedication," Cunningham said. "He was not born with a silver spoon in his mouth. He wasn't even the best fighter in my gym, but look at him now. Look at what hard work and remembering to rise above your circumstances can do."

Now Alexander is on the precipice of stardom. Of course, the huge fights won't happen without a victory against Kotelnik.

"There has been a lot of talk about Devon being in these mega-fights with Kahn, [Manny] Pacquiao and [Floyd] Mayweather, but we don't get caught up in that," Cunningham said. "Kotelnik is talking about coming here and taking these belts. We are focused on the Ukrainian. We don't get distracted."

But Cunningham wasn't afraid to make a prediction.

"Devon's going to knock out Kotelnik in two rounds. We're kicking his *#*," he said.

Even more than the three fighters Cunningham mentioned as potential future Alexander opponents, there is the much-discussed showdown with Timothy Bradley Jr., who also holds a belt. He and Alexander rank as the top two in the division. Bradley fought last month and rolled to a decision against Luis Carlos Abregu at welterweight. He's likely headed back to 140, where a unification showdown with Alexander is one of boxing's most anticipated bouts.

"I love the idea of hyping up a fight with the two best 140-pounders in the world, Devon and Tim," Cunningham said. "Bradley took care of business [July 17]; now Devon has to take care of business."

It's a fight Alexander wants.

"I definitely want that [fight] because I think he's a roadblock," Alexander said. "He's the reason that people are not seeing me as the best 140-pounder in the world. He's a roadblock in me becoming a megastar."

HBO Sports president Ross Greenburg has been vocal about his desire to match them Jan. 29, the Saturday the week before the Super Bowl, a slot the network reserves for only its biggest fights.

Alexander knows it and is using the Kotelnik fight as motivation to keep the Bradley bonanza on track.

"Hard work pays off. I know I got to keep working," Alexander said. "I know I got a tough task, and I'm focused 100 percent on that. But I know after this -- if I take care of this -- I know it's bigger and bigger opportunities down the road. So, I kind of stay focused on the task ahead and just use the future tense as motivation."

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Chris Cozzone/Fightwireimages.com Juan Manuel Marquez, left, won't be getting another crack at Manny Pacquiao.

Despite lightweight champ Juan Manuel Marquez's pleas for a third fight with Manny Pacquiao following his dominant win against Juan Diaz in their rematch last week -- a fight promoter Golden Boy also wants to make -- Top Rank's Bob Arum, Pacquiao's promoter, put the kibosh on it.

Arum intends to match Pacquiao with Antonio Margarito for a vacant junior middleweight belt on Nov. 13. Marquez is not in the picture, he said.

"Marquez is a terrific kid and a terrific fighter, but he's a smaller-weight fighter," Arum said. "He demonstrated that at the higher weight he can't handle it [when he lost every round to Floyd Mayweather at welterweight last fall]. Now, if that perception is incorrect, let Marquez go fight a bigger guy and prove that he belongs with Manny at a higher weight.

"Let him go fight Andre Berto or [Joshua] Clottey, Tim Bradley or [Devon] Alexander. If he beats one of those four guys, he can say, 'I belong with Manny at the higher weight.' Pacquiao demonstrated that he can go up, but Marquez hasn't. Maybe he can, but he needs to show it." Arum said Pacquiao, who now holds a welterweight title, would not drop down to junior welterweight to meet Marquez, either.

"Once a guy goes up, you don't bring him down, especially if he's the A-side," Arum said.

Pacquiao and Marquez fought to a controversial draw in their first fight, one that many believed Marquez won, for the featherweight championship. Pacquiao claimed a controversial split decision in their rematch for the junior lightweight title, another fight many believed Marquez won.

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Chris Cozzone/Fightwireimages.comIvan Calderon, left, will need to put his slick skills to good use against Giovani Segura.

As big fights go in the little weight classes, the junior flyweight unification match between Puerto Rico's Ivan "Iron Boy" Calderon, one of the most technically gifted boxers of this generation, and Mexico's Giovani Segura, a pure slugger, is a big deal. They'll meet Aug. 28 (Integrated Sports PPV, $39.95) in Calderon's hometown of Guaynabo.

Both appear to be taking the 108-pound showdown quite seriously as both came in well under the maximum weight they could have been for their prefight weight check. Calderon was 116½ and Segura was 113. They could have been as heavy as 124 pounds.

"We are working hard for this bout, looking for a victory and another good performance," said Calderon, who will be making his seventh defense. "As always, the weight is not a problem. I'm in good shape and focused for this fight."

For Segura (24-1-1, 20 KOs), 28, who will be making his fourth defense, facing a long-time champion such as Calderon (34-0-1, 6 KOs) is what he has wanted.

"It's my dream fight," Segura said. "To fight an icon like Calderon is a great honor for me, but by the same token, I am not intimidated to go into his home for this fight. It will be a battle of wills, and my power will be the difference."

Ricky Mota, Segura's manager, has had his eye on Segura facing Calderon for awhile.

"It's all we have been talking about since he became a world champion and I know how hard he is working to be ready and to win this battle," Mota said.
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Chavez Jr.

• Although Top Rank's Bob Arum wanted to match Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. with former middleweight champ Kelly Pavlik, his own matchmakers and members of Chavez's team were against it. Now, Arum thinks he's found just the right fight. He wants to match Chavez and junior middleweight titlist Miguel Cotto, who also needs a fall fight, on pay-per-view Dec. 4. Before that can come to fruition, Chavez needs to defeat Pawel Wolak, whom he'll meet in a 10-rounder Sept. 11 (FS en Espanol) in Queretaro, Mexico, at a contract weight of 158 pounds. "If Chavez looks good [against Wolak], then we're going to do the Cotto fight for Miguel's title either in Las Vegas or Atlantic City," Arum told ESPN.com. "I think it's a great fight, a real fun fight. Any time it's a Mexican against a Puerto Rican, it's fun. So that's the fight we're discussing." He said that despite his excitement about Pavlik-Chavez, Bruce Trampler, Top Rank's chief matchmaker, and trainer Freddie Roach were more comfortable with Cotto because he and Chavez are closer in size.

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Donaire

• Arum also told ESPN.com that if Cotto-Chavez is finalized, he's considering a bantamweight showdown between unified beltholder Fernando Montiel and Nonito Donaire as the pay-per-view co-feature. "We might double those fights up and make it a real good card," said Arum, who has been talking about Montiel-Donaire for months. Neither will enter Showtime's proposed 118-pound tournament. Arum said one of the reasons was because he wanted to see it as an eight-man, single-elimination tournament, not a six-man, round-robin event like the Super Six that Showtime is currently doing at super middleweight. "Make it an eight-man tournament, loser goes home," Arum said. "Then we're interested. But don't stretch it out for [18 months]. We have faith in our guys. We'll put them in, and it's three fights to win it. I'm not going to get involved in that Super Six stuff. Loser goes home and it's a different story." Arum said a second option for Montiel-Donaire is to put it on the Manny Pacquiao-Antonio Margarito undercard Nov. 13.

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De Leon

• Golden Boy's Richard Schaefer told ESPN.com that the finishing touches were being put on a featherweight fight between former junior featherweight titlist Daniel Ponce De Leon (39-2, 32 KOs) and Mikey Roman (30-7, 22 KOs), who are both from the Mexican state of Chihuahua. It would open the Shane Mosley-Sergio Mora HBO PPV card from Staples Center in Los Angeles on Sept. 18. Although Roman lost a competitive decision to Antonio Escalante on ESPN2 in February, it was a fight of the year candidate. He's won two in a row since. "If Ponce beats Roman, we'd like to match him with Escalante, and if Roman wins, we'd like to make a rematch with Escalante," Schaefer said.

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Marquez

• Lightweight champion Juan Manuel Marquez's decision against Juan Diaz in their pay-per-view rematch of 2009's fight of the year last week generated between 150,000 and 200,000 buys, far exceeding what was needed to break even, Golden Boy's Schaefer told ESPN.com. "I think it has an opportunity to reach 200,000," Schaefer said. "We only have the satellite numbers, but they are strong. I'm very pleased. With the gate we did, $900,000, and the closed circuit, it shows that Marquez has established himself as a star in the United States. It also shows as well that an outstanding undercard created an event not only driven by the main event. I was very pleased with the way it was embraced." The fight will be replayed Friday night on HBO Latino (9 ET/PT) and again after Saturday's Spanish-language airing of "Boxing After Dark." Diaz-Marquez II will be televised in Spanish with announcers Mario Solis and Genaro Hernandez. HBO planned to have the English audio feed of Jim Lampley and Emanuel Steward from the PPV telecast available by pressing the SAP button on your remote. However, according to HBO spokesman Ray Stallone, there were technical issues that prevented that. Stallone said the English version will be available on HBO On Demand beginning Monday.

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• Whether Showtime goes through with a bantamweight tournament or not, titlist Yonnhy Perez (20-0-1, 14 KOs) and former titlist Joseph Agbeko (27-2, 22 KOs), the mandatory challenger, will meet in a rematch, probably Nov. 6. Perez co-promoter Gary Shaw told ESPN.com that he and Don King, Agbeko's promoter, had made a deal to avoid a purse bid. Vinny Scolpino, Agbeko's manager, said he was waiting for paperwork from King. "We're in," he said. "The first fight was a great fight, and Joseph is excited to have another shot at the belt. We're ready to go." Perez won the title from Agbeko via unanimous decision in one of the most action-packed fights of 2009 and has made one defense, a majority draw in another all-action fight against Abner Mares in May.

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• Giovanni Lorenzo (29-2, 21 KOs) doesn't care that he was the third choice to face middleweight titlist Felix Sturm (33-2-1, 14 KOs) on Sept. 4 in Cologne, Germany. He's just glad he is getting the opportunity, his second crack at a title after dropping a split decision to Sebastian Sylvester in Germany in September. "I've seen Sturm fight numerous times so I know what to expect," said Lorenzo, who got the nod after Marco Antonio Rubio and Peter Manfredo both declined the fight. "I was so close to winning the world title against Sylvester and I'm very excited to get another chance, and I plan to bring the belt back to New York. The German fans were terrific to me last time I was there, and I'm confident that I can beat Sturm whether it's by stoppage or decision."

• Cruiserweight titlist Krzysztof Wlodarczyk (43-2-1, 32 KOs) of Poland makes the first defense of his second reign against American Jason Robinson (19-5, 11 KOs) on Sept. 25 in Warsaw, according to Leon Margules, Wlodarczyk's promoter. Robinson is fighting for the third time since ending a 2½-year layoff in March. Wlodarczyk won a vacant belt via eighth-round knockout of Giacobbe Fragomeni in their May rematch. Robinson has lost whenever he's stepped up to face top competition, suffering defeats to James Toney, O'Neil Bell, Grigory Drozd and Ezra Sellers.

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Munroe

• European junior featherweight champion Rendall Munroe (21-1, 9 KOs) of England gets his first shot at a world title when he travels to Tokyo to challenge Toshiaki Nishioka (36-4-3, 23 KOs) on Oct. 24. Munroe is a confident fighter but said he gained even more confidence when he met Nishioka at a WBC event in Wales recently. "I'm even more confident of beating him now," Munroe said. "We got on well and he seems a nice man, but I grew in confidence after seeing him. I'm convinced that world title is mine. It is always tough fighting away, but once I get in a rhythm, my size and strength will cause him nonstop problems." Manager Frank Maloney said he's not concerned about Munroe having to fight far away from home. "Going to Japan doesn't faze Rendall at all, and he is the most laid-back fighter I have worked with since Lennox Lewis," Maloney said.

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Klitschko

• Heavyweight titlist Vitali Klitschko will defend on Oct. 16 in Germany, manager Bernd Boente told ESPN.com. His opponent isn't set, but ex-champ Shannon Briggs is the leading candidate, Boente said. … HBO is holding Nov. 6 for a "Boxing After Dark" card to be promoted by Golden Boy as part of its output deal with the network. Golden Boy's Schaefer said there are several possibilities for the card, but a fight he wants to make is Michael Katsidis against Robert Guerrero in a lightweight bout. … Schaefer also said that if a Dec. 11 Amir Khan-Juan Manuel Marquez fight, which would be in the U.S., doesn't happen, Khan would still fight on that date, but possibly against Victor Ortiz or Marcos Maidana in his native England. "There are a lot of moving targets," Schaefer said. "But Katsidis-Guerrero would be perfect for Nov. 6. I'll discuss the scenarios with HBO." … Although ESPN2's "Friday Night Fights" season ends this month, there will be a live special Nov. 11 in honor of Veterans Day. Like it did last year, ESPN2 will televise a card (fights to be announced) from the New River Marine base in Jacksonville, N.C. There won't be tickets available, just freebies for the military at the base.

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"For me this is a great honor to fight a fighter the caliber of a Rafael Marquez. When you fight the best you become the best, and this is the opportunity for me to become the best. To fight a guy at this level, it is my chance to show everybody what I'm capable of doing. I'm really looking forward to this fight." -- featherweight titlist Juan Manuel Lopez, on his much-anticipated Sept. 18 (Showtime) showdown with Marquez.

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Marquez
"I know they say he has big punching power, but I have faced big punchers like [Israel] Vazquez. I know he is younger also. But age has nothing to do with anything in this sport. It all depends on how you take care of yourself and how you prepare yourself for the fights. And that is the key. Age will not make a difference. This fight will end by knockout and I'm going to win." -- Marquez, on his title shot against Lopez
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Marquez
"I know they say he has big punching power, but I have faced big punchers like [Israel] Vazquez. I know he is younger also. But age has nothing to do with anything in this sport. It all depends on how you take care of yourself and how you prepare yourself for the fights. And that is the key. Age will not make a difference. This fight will end by knockout and I'm going to win." -- Marquez, on his title shot against Lopez
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He gonna teach that Yung boy a serious lesson.

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Depending on the undercard, I may buy Calderon/Segura. Love the fact that Donaire may go on the Manny undercard, give that kid some good exposure.
 
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Where does a Perez-Agbeko fight leave Abner Mares? He should be the one with the rematch versus Perez.
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Mares may fight Darchinyan on Showtime as part of the 4-man tourney with the winner to fight the winner of Perez-Agbeko.

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Any update on if Paul Williams will stop running from Sergio Martinez?
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It seems like that fight isn't going to happen unless the Williams side gets in reality over the split.
 
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[h3]Does Don King hold key to Manny Pacquiao-Floyd Mayweather?[/h3]
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ST. LOUIS -- When Floyd Mayweather was preparing to end his brief retirement last year and asked adviser Al Haymon to field offers for fights, Mayweather did a little fielding of his own.

He spent several days in South Florida hanging at promoter Don King's mansion.

King was not shy about his interest in signing Mayweather, but even though they barbecued and relaxed, nothing came of it.

Mayweather returned to Haymon and Golden Boy Promotions, which eventually put on his comeback fight against Juan Manuel Marquez last fall, followed by his win against Shane Mosley in May.

Now the High-Haired One's courtship /pursuit/seduction of Mayweather is in high gear again. They spent several days together again last week in South Florida, feasting on lobster and making no secret about their dance.

King still hopes to sign Mayweather and believes if he does, fight fans will get what they want -- the mother of all fights between Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao.

King expects Mayweather ringside as his guest Saturday night at the Scottrade Center to watch junior welterweight titlist Devon Alexander -- the fighter with the most Mayweather-like potential in the sport -- defend against former titlist Andreas Kotelnik. If Mayweather shows up, HBO Sports president Ross Greenburg told me the network will endeavor to interview him during the telecast.

While King, who turns 79 this month, has been all over St. Louis promoting his rear end off, Mayweather has also been on his mind.

With so much swirling about their positional pairing, I sat down with King at our hotel Friday to talk about it.

At one point, King's phone rang. He said it was Mayweather, spoke to him for a couple of minutes and told me he said he was in town and would be at the fight. Then King turned his attention back to our discussion.

"I love Floyd. Floyd's my man," said King, who was holding his cadre of flags and smiling ear to ear. "He'll get the soup to nuts treatment [if he signs]. He was down there with me for a week in Florida. He's buyin' him a nice place down there. And so it's no downside with me with Floyd because the people that have him, they gonna give him more money to keep him away from me if he stays with them. If he comes with me, he'll have a whole new vista, a whole new arena that he can play on. I can get more money than anyone out there. They can't stop that."

King said he when he tried wooing him last year, Mayweather ultimately went back to Haymon and Golden Boy because they gave him more money.

"He profited from me. He got more money for the Marquez fight," King said. "He wouldn't have got what he had. He can use me. I don't mind being used because I understand Golden Boy, Al Haymon."

King's point of view is that Haymon and Golden Boy do not understand Mayweather or know how to treat him.

King said he'd make Mayweather "a people's champion and be able to create and generate more money than he's ever had before with dignity, pride and stature. Like it is now, he's being degraded, vilified, accusations, you know. Some of it goes for the hype, but when it gets to the substance of the man, the substance is not there. And they don't understand because they can't communicate with him because Floyd speaks Ghetto-ese and they don't understand because it's hieroglyphics.

"They look down on him and put him in disrepute and disregard, the people who's with him. And they don't defend him. He goes out and says, 'Money, money, money,' and that don't win it. That don't give you what you need as a human being."

King said his pursuit is not a hard one as he has done with so many fighters in the past. He said he hasn't presented him with a duffel bag of money -- one of King's favorite moves -- to get him to sign. He didn't jet off to be at Mayweather's side. No, King is playing it cooler than that.

"Never made him an offer. If he wants me, he come and get me. I'm there for him all the time, either way," King said. "It doesn't matter whether he comes or he don't come. I love him, I understand him because I'm one of him. I am one of the masses, not the classes. I'm from the hood too and I also speak Ghetto-ese. I can relate, communicate and identify. And that's something [Haymon and Golden Boy] don't do."

King insisted that if he and Mayweather were together, the Pacquiao fight would be made quickly. Sure, he said he and Pacquiao promoter Bob Arum -- King's longtime adversary -- would argue and fight like crazy over deal points, but it would be made quickly because they are dealmakers.

"Me and Bob would get that fight done in two shakes of a lamb's tail," King said. "If I was there working with Bob Arum, this fight would have been history. It'd be ready now and we'd be talking about how we gonna promote. It wouldn't be nothing put a piece of cake. But even then it would be so much bigger that what it would be if he were to make with Golden Boy or Al. They cannot make the fight as big as Arum and I can make it. They are not in the class of a Bob Arum."

Indeed a co-promotion between the sport's most famous (some would say notorious) promoters would add another dimension to what is already the biggest potential fight in the sport. After years of promotional warfare, King and Arum, both in their late 70s, have mellowed toward each other. Fight they will for every dime, but they respect each other.

King once told me that he was glad to have Arum around as his competition because if he didn't have Arum, "I wouldn't know how good I really was."

King wants to see Pacquiao and Mayweather fight but said if or when they do, he wants to see it be the "biggest fight in the universe."

Naturally, that means co-promoting it with Arum, Mayweather's former promoter, who has openly said he's rooting for King to sign Mayweather so they can make the fight.

"This will be a good fight, and I think Bob Arum and I would make it the biggest fight in the universe," King said. "No matter who makes it, it will be the biggest fight in the world. Without me and without Bob [doing it together], it would be a good fight, Pacquiao and Mayweather, but it would not carry the same impetus."

King threw around the number $200 million as to what he thinks it could generate.

"You can generate that kind of revenue when you have the creative imagination that I have," he said.

So the King-Mayweather dalliance presumably will continue through this weekend, at least. I would never count King out.

"Floyd keeps telling me he's free," King said. "I keep hearing from Golden Boy and other people that he ain't free. So who knows? They may have done tricked him and he thinks he's free. They promise you everything and give you nothing and he finds himself in a quagmire. That's what happened to him last time.

"So now he's back saying he got it straightened out, and 'me and you gonna talk; me and you gonna do this and that.' I say, 'OK, OK.' I never ever disagree because he's the man. So whatever he says, that's what it is. But I would be delighted. It would be an honor and privilege for me to be with Mayweather.

"He has done a tremendous job of self-promotion. He's done a tremendous job of fighting and winning. I love Floyd."
 
^don king will turn floyds 250 mill to a crack habbit , if he signs he deserves whatever financial repercussion result from the partnership. floyd can promote his damn self at this point in his career and if he fights manny Arum is going balls to the walls promoting too.


as for tonight......Alexander is going to do what he will continue to do fro the next 12 years and thats win and walk thru all his opponents , the junior witter win was all i needed to see of him , nobody has the tools to beat him
 
If Devon loses tonight too, my classmate from the Lou might jump out the window
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he's sitting here depressed and @$!! now talking about the state of STL sports.

Good fight but Cloud is looking like the 41 year old taking rounds off. If Cloud and Dawson would learn to stop taking these rounds off in the middle of fights, they'd have bigger fan bases.
 
Cloud was doing the same !%++, I hate hearing all these grunts.

They keep booing the hell out of PBF every time he gets shown
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Looks like a clear case of looking ahead to a Bradley fight. I don't see how anyone would have more than 2 rounds for Devon going into the 6th...
 
Alexander aint looking too great. his defense needs some improvement. I really dont see him beating Amir Khan or Zab Judah. Urango made him look better than what he really is. Even Cunnigham his trainer said he was not one of the most talented fighter he trained , but he was  the hardest worker.
 
Yea, there's no way he's getting a decision down there. I usually agree with Lederman but that score is a little off IMO, I have it 4-3 Kotelnik...
 
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