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2013-2014 NBA Season Thread - Congrats to the Spurs, DBD is still a buster
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but its not tho
you have no control over whats called a foul or not
thats like telling someone dont wanna get hit by a car then dont get hit by a car
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you can control the silly/dumb fouls that happen same why every free throw counts regardless if its in the 1st Q with 11:50 left or the 4th with 0:05 left
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No rules are everlasting though. We've seen stuff change in the NBA all the time. Nothing wrong with tiny bit of discussion.
I know how you feel about the refferee discussion though
MAN UP BAND UP BHZ say what you gotta say breh.
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I dont know what the free throw thing is about
but again you can play as smart as you want and get called on some ******** so no you have no control over foul calls
obviously if you're just out their chopping guys thats on you but i assumed that was a given
How many foul outs happen a year? 50? 100?
500 players, playing 80+ games, for 30 damn teams, you get a couple per team, per year?
But everyone complaining about this ****, EVERY YEAR.
Bron didn't even foul out yesterday. He was in foul trouble, no doubt, but he never fouled out.
Hell, if Spo sat him with 4, he doesn't pick up his 5th right away, does he?
If you have 1 or 2, you don't do things like barrel into George, or reach in on Hibbert, you let those type things go, and give no chance for a foul to be called.
Bron went FIVE years, without fouling out, suddenly he gets a couple sketchy calls, and look at everybody.
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they should get rid of fouling out. makes the gm better. maybe two shots and the ball if committed over 6
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the sacramento queens 00-02
but they kings were really really close, if that matters
The Lakers knocked out the Kings 3 straight years
wizards lost to cavs 06-08
Thanks for the info fellas
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the problem for foul calls have always been consistency. no fouls are exactly the same, but similar fouls need to be taken into account. if a player is slapped on the arm but does not get the call, i would want to see the same on the other end of the floor. it's a difficult thing to maintain for the entirety of the game, but we've all been witness to similar fouls within the same minute with only one person benefiting from it
hopefully in the future, refs will have some kind of sensory padding underneath their jerseys. where if serge hits blake in the balls, the refs would feel it too. and if the refs get swung at, they would feel double the pain
hopefully in the future, refs will have some kind of sensory padding underneath their jerseys. where if serge hits blake in the balls, the refs would feel it too. and if the refs get swung at, they would feel double the pain
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How many foul outs happen a year? 50? 100?
500 players, playing 80+ games, for 30 damn teams, you get a couple per team, per year?
But everyone complaining about this ****, EVERY YEAR.
Bron didn't even foul out yesterday. He was in foul trouble, no doubt, but he never fouled out.
Hell, if Spo sat him with 4, he doesn't pick up his 5th right away, does he?
If you have 1 or 2, you don't do things like barrel into George, or reach in on Hibbert, you let those type things go, and give no chance for a foul to be called.
Bron went FIVE years, without fouling out, suddenly he gets a couple sketchy calls, and look at everybody.
I dont know why you quoted me or what you want me to respond to this is all over the place
I was talking about being able to control whats called a foul
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everyting counts/matters
dont get dumb fouls at the start of the game... or better yet when you already have 2 dont do stupid things to bring MORE attention to you
this all over
Bron didn't even foul out yesterday. He was in foul trouble, no doubt, but he never fouled out.
If you have 1 or 2, you don't do things like barrel into George, or reach in on Hibbert, you let those type things go, and give no chance for a foul to be called.
Bron went FIVE years, without fouling out, suddenly he gets a couple sketchy calls, and look at everybody.
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Well, when superstar players get into foul trouble (or have 5 fouls like Lebron did last night), they tend to not get fouled out. I'm not saying that its never happened where a player gets fouled out (I mean Dwight did in the 1st round), but a lot of times they will allow that player to remain in the game.
Its not really saying anything too crazy, but that's something I know for fact. Fouls are some of the most inconsistent calls in basketball. I just knew Lebron wasn't going to foul out when he got back into the game last night just going off of what I knew. There was a chance it could have happened, but only if Lebron did something that was blatant and easy to catch.
This isn't necessarily NBA refs trying to cheat for another team, but its just the reality of the league. You will rarely see an NBA star foul out or even come close to fouling out of a game.
I have no problem with the fouls Lebron was called for. Its just the fact that he wasn't going to foul out . I was hoping for several OT's, just so I could see him play the whole game.
Its not really saying anything too crazy, but that's something I know for fact. Fouls are some of the most inconsistent calls in basketball. I just knew Lebron wasn't going to foul out when he got back into the game last night just going off of what I knew. There was a chance it could have happened, but only if Lebron did something that was blatant and easy to catch.
This isn't necessarily NBA refs trying to cheat for another team, but its just the reality of the league. You will rarely see an NBA star foul out or even come close to fouling out of a game.
I have no problem with the fouls Lebron was called for. Its just the fact that he wasn't going to foul out
. I was hoping for several OT's, just so I could see him play the whole game.
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No rules are everlasting though. We've seen stuff change in the NBA all the time. Nothing wrong with tiny bit of discussion.
I know how you feel about the refferee discussion though
MAN UP BAND UP BHZ say what you gotta say breh.
Fair enough.
We take out foul outs then.
Shaq type player comes along. Massive, can't be stopped. Shoots 50% at the line. I'm havin my Center foul him 93 times then, and give Shaq alllllllllll them free throws. Cuz, why not?
No need to even have coaches then, no strategy in it anymore, you can foul as much as you want, who cares about the 2 extra free throws, you in the penalty anyways, the league won't make it 4 free throws per possession, so yeah, let's slow the game all the way down, and make it 40-50 free throws per team, per game.
Now everyone will be happy about "changing the game", ya know, for the better.
Hell, now refs are empowered to call EVERYTHING a foul, because they don't have to worry if a guy already has 3, and they don't want to give a guy his 4th, early in the 3rd, right? Refs do that, right? They try not to give a guy a foul if he has a couple, they want to let the guys play usually, but now, no need to worry about that, you reach, foul. You swipe, foul. You hand check, foul. Can't foul anybody out, so it don't hurt to play it safe.
That's what would happen. You take away the penalty of what it means to foul, and you create more fouls, more free throws, more stoppages.
People need to just let it the **** go. Regs ain't the problem, they just make or miss calls from time to time, every game, every year, year after year. Same in EVERY, SINGLE, SPORT.
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Yes, they'll complain because... AS YOU STATED... we all know Bron will get called for like MAYBE 1 or 2 fouls next game.Fouls don't take anyone out of the game. Coaches do.
Bron had 5 fouls the entire 4th quarter, and played the whole time.
There's no rule you have to take a guy out with 2 fouls in the first, coaches just play it safe.
People once again overreacting to anything and everything having to do with refs. Give that crap a rest. They make split second calls, some you get, some you don't.
Fairly sure that LeBron James has bulldozed thru defenders for a decade, and benefited from the whistle plenty in this league. Now he has one bad game with refs, and we need to change this, review that, switch this, add extra refs, open the Kennedy assassination files, blah blah blah.
Tomorrow night, Bron won't have a single foul called on him, even if he kicks Lance in the balls. But ref complainers will still search for something to ***** about.
HOWWWWW
Do you NOTTTTT
Have a problem w/ that?!
We all know it's coming, and as it happens, you'll just be like "Enh, Sometimes they get the calls right, sometimes they don't." But as you just mentioned, the predictability of situations like this... is ABSURD.
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But you can't control what "dumb" fouls will be called or not you can adjust once you see how the games being called but theres no way to know before hand
so how would you avoid them?
short of playing the way Bron did in the 4th i guess
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And people are right...Lebron will only get a few fouls next game may not even get called for any at all no matter how reckless he plays.
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And let's just stop pretending that the ref talk has JUST started today, after last night's game.
K?
That discussion has been more consistent than any NBA discussion the last like 10 years.
K?
That discussion has been more consistent than any NBA discussion the last like 10 years.
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There's a damn book out from a former NBA ref about how rigged the NBA is.
I mean, everything is suppose to be fair game in the NBA? Really? The NBA is probably the closest thing to WWE.
I mean, everything is suppose to be fair game in the NBA? Really? The NBA is probably the closest thing to WWE.
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Well, when superstar players get into foul trouble (or have 5 fouls like Lebron did last night), they tend to not get fouled out. I'm not saying that its never happened where a player gets fouled out (I mean Dwight did in the 1st round), but a lot of times they will allow that player to remain in the game.
Its not really saying anything too crazy, but that's something I know for fact. Fouls are some of the most inconsistent calls in basketball. I just knew Lebron wasn't going to foul out when he got back into the game last night just going off of what I knew. There was a chance it could have happened, but only if Lebron did something that was blatant and easy to catch.
This isn't necessarily NBA refs trying to cheat for another team, but its just the reality of the league. You will rarely see an NBA star foul out or even come close to fouling out of a game.
I have no problem with the fouls Lebron was called for. Its just the fact that he wasn't going to foul out
And that's a reality we all should get. Hence what I tell you, Refs don't WANT to get guys out of games (well, last night they did
) but if a guy has a couple, they will give him the benefit of the doubt, unless it's something blatant. Or two guys with the same amount, etc. Then someone does foul out, and theories all go out the window. The point remains, play clean, stop blaming refs for making calls.
Like I've pointed out in every convo, there is holding in the NFL EVERY play, but they can't call 900 holding calls, we'd be there all damn night watching games. They try to get the most obvious, and give a break on the lesser ones. NBA refs do the same thing.
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These are the situations that lead to rule changes though. Conversial things are done/happen by/to star players and then people create conversation then rules are changed/named after players.
How many foul outs happen a year? 50? 100?
500 players, playing 80+ games, for 30 damn teams, you get a couple per team, per year?
But everyone complaining about this ****, EVERY YEAR.
Bron didn't even foul out yesterday. He was in foul trouble, no doubt, but he never fouled out.
Hell, if Spo sat him with 4, he doesn't pick up his 5th right away, does he?
If you have 1 or 2, you don't do things like barrel into George, or reach in on Hibbert, you let those type things go, and give no chance for a foul to be called.
Bron went FIVE years, without fouling out, suddenly he gets a couple sketchy calls, and look at everybody.
No rules are everlasting though. We've seen stuff change in the NBA all the time. Nothing wrong with tiny bit of discussion.
I know how you feel about the refferee discussion though
MAN UP BAND UP BHZ say what you gotta say breh.
Fair enough.
We take out foul outs then.
Shaq type player comes along. Massive, can't be stopped. Shoots 50% at the line. I'm havin my Center foul him 93 times then, and give Shaq alllllllllll them free throws. Cuz, why not?
No need to even have coaches then, no strategy in it anymore, you can foul as much as you want, who cares about the 2 extra free throws, you in the penalty anyways, the league won't make it 4 free throws per possession, so yeah, let's slow the game all the way down, and make it 40-50 free throws per team, per game.
Now everyone will be happy about "changing the game", ya know, for the better.
Hell, now refs are empowered to call EVERYTHING a foul, because they don't have to worry if a guy already has 3, and they don't want to give a guy his 4th, early in the 3rd, right? Refs do that, right? They try not to give a guy a foul if he has a couple, they want to let the guys play usually, but now, no need to worry about that, you reach, foul. You swipe, foul. You hand check, foul. Can't foul anybody out, so it don't hurt to play it safe.
That's what would happen. You take away the penalty of what it means to foul, and you create more fouls, more free throws, more stoppages.
People need to just let it the **** go. Regs ain't the problem, they just make or miss calls from time to time, every game, every year, year after year. Same in EVERY, SINGLE, SPORT.
Vintage CP rant.You're right, that would happen. I also agree that complaining about poor officiating is pointless because this happens in every sport. Baseball, football, Hockey I am sure.
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"Shaq type player comes along. Massive, can't be stopped. Shoots 50% at the line. I'm havin my Center foul him 93 times then, and give Shaq alllllllllll them free throws. Cuz, why not?"
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CPYes, they'll complain because... AS YOU STATED... we all know Bron will get called for like MAYBE 1 or 2 fouls next game.Fouls don't take anyone out of the game. Coaches do.
Bron had 5 fouls the entire 4th quarter, and played the whole time.
There's no rule you have to take a guy out with 2 fouls in the first, coaches just play it safe.
People once again overreacting to anything and everything having to do with refs. Give that crap a rest. They make split second calls, some you get, some you don't.
Fairly sure that LeBron James has bulldozed thru defenders for a decade, and benefited from the whistle plenty in this league. Now he has one bad game with refs, and we need to change this, review that, switch this, add extra refs, open the Kennedy assassination files, blah blah blah.
Tomorrow night, Bron won't have a single foul called on him, even if he kicks Lance in the balls. But ref complainers will still search for something to ***** about.
HOWWWWW
Do you NOTTTTT
Have a problem w/ that?!
We all know it's coming, and as it happens, you'll just be like "Enh, Sometimes they get the calls right, sometimes they don't." But as you just mentioned, the predictability of situations like this... is ABSURD.
Doesn't bother me at all.
I've watched Bron BULLDOZE his way thru guys for a decade, rarely gets called. Last night, he got called for every damn thing.
One game, and people goin nuts. But when he broke Durants arm off in the Finals, and cost the Thunder a game, "good no call, good no call, too close, too close, all ball"
Calls go your way one time, the other the next. **** happens.
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I have a feeling it's so obvious, they're gonna do the opposite
Either way, this past game is gonna have some effect on the reffing for the next game. Which is lame.
Has Joey Crawford reffed a game recently?
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