2013-2014 NBA Thread - IND @ WAS and OKC @ LAC on ESPN

[certifiedflyboi23]

So Zyzz complains that the thread sucks and it's nothing but trolls running around posting nonsense.

Then someone proceeds to try to bring the discussion back to basketball with an actual NBA related article.

Then Zyzz crosses out the entire article and says that no one cares.

Ha. The irony.

exactly

 

[lawdog1]

After a rough return last game, no Iggy or Bogut, Steph Curry for 40+ tonight?

I don't think so. But he'll go over 30. Klay with 25.

 

[Bert.]

So Zyzz complains that the thread sucks and it's nothing but trolls running around posting nonsense.

Then someone proceeds to try to bring the discussion back to basketball with an actual NBA related article.

Then Zyzz crosses out the entire article and says that no one cares.

Ha. The irony.

because no one cares to read about blake griffin, talk about something interesting.

that was a weak troll attempt

 

[certifiedflyboi23]

Rck and Zyzz angry because Quake is better in the post than their starting PF..

It's ok..

 

[licensed to ball]

Nothing against you Zyzz, I know you're a Kobe fan/Laker supporter so nothing but respect... but if you're so displeased with the content of the thread then why don't you take the initiative and bring up "interesting" topics to discuss?

Not trying to troll you or taunt you.
Serious question.
Complaints don't fix problems, solutions do.

And crossing out articles and telling people you don't care about their NBA thoughts in an NBA thread doesn't seem like a viable solution to the problem.

 

[noblekane]

Quake is fake

 

[jumpmanfromdabay]

Quake is a lame nickname

 

[reggiekiller]

where is your mamba now?

 

[rck3sactown]

Rck and Zyzz angry because Quake is better in the post than their starting PF..

It's ok..

SKA or CP or Lawdog or any other senior memebers of NT, playing in the post>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Kings starting PF

 

[don ramon]

this is you

this thread sucks, too many trolls and nonsense

and then this is you:

[COLOR=#red]The Extra Pass: Busting myths surrounding Blake Griffin, and Thursday’s recaps[/COLOR]



In his first season playing in the league, Blake Griffin crushed any and all expectations. Now, just a few years later, he can’t seem to get out from under the weight of them.

Without diving in too deep as to why that is, it’s probably fair to say that Griffin isn’t treated as even-handedly as some of his contemporaries. Maybe it’s the athleticism or the commercials or the persona or the rapid ascension, but Griffin can never really seem to satisfy his critics.

As a result, this has led to a few common complaints being repeated ad nauseum, even though they aren’t necessarily rooted in truth.

Blake Griffin needs to develop a post game

You hear this a lot, but rarely is actual data brought in to the conversation.

According to My Synergy Sports, a service that breaks down and tracks every play type, Griffin scored .88 points per play out of the post last year. Post-up opportunities comprised 35 percent of his offense. How does that compare to some of the league’s best post scorers?

Blake Griffin: .88 PPP, 35% post-ups
Kevin Love: .85 PPP, 24.9% post-ups
LaMarcus Aldridge: .94 PPP, 33.7% post-ups
DeMarcus Cousins: .81 PPP, 24.9% post-ups

Very rarely do you hear anyone harp on Love, Aldridge or Cousins about needing to develop their post skills, but Griffin was a more prolific and more efficient scorer than everyone except for Aldridge last season.

Does he always make it look pretty down there? Certainly not, but saying that Griffin isn’t a good post scorer flies directly in the face of the facts.

When Griffin can’t dunk and play in transition, he can’t be effective

Griffin’s mid-range game is a work in progress, for sure. Still, here’s a list of players with at least 25 made field goals that Griffin is shooting a better percentage than from 10-22 feet:

Marc Gasol, Kevin Martin, Carmelo Anthony, Bradley Beal, Gordon Hayward.

It’s a small sample size, but it wouldn’t be a surprise to see Griffin be right around league-average from mid-range this year.

It also seems silly that Griffin’s production in the pick-and-roll (1.2 PPP in that setting this year) can be so easily ignored. Pick-and-rolls make up the strong majority of every half-court offense in the league, and Griffin has routinely been one of the best finishers in the league as a roll man.

Let’s not discount Griffin’s passing ability, either. With the exception of Kevin Love, Josh McRoberts and the Gasol brothers, no other power forward or center ranks above Griffin in assist opportunities per game, which is tracked by SportVU and is defined as “passes by a player to a teammate in which the teammate attempts a shot, and if made, would be an assist.”

That confirms what most people who watch Griffin every night already know. Griffin is drawing the attention of multiple defenders whenever he gets the ball, and he’s routinely finding teammates open shots.

Truth be told, Griffin is already the player a lot of people want him to become. The narrative being stuck in neutral is funny, really, because there are other much more legitimate critiques of Griffin readily available. He’s a poor free throw shooter. He’s an inconsistent defender that lacks focus. He doesn’t help protect the rim or defend the pick-and-roll well.

Those are the areas of improvement that could help Griffin take his game, and maybe the Clippers, to the next level. All this other stuff is just noise.







http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports....rrounding-blake-griffin-and-thursdays-recaps/

no one cares

SRS

you're a big part of the problem

 

[certifiedflyboi23]

Quake is a lame nickname

What about High Griffinition?

 

[lawdog1]

Rck and Zyzz angry because Quake is better in the post than their starting PF..

It's ok..

Hey, as long as people regularly post in this thread that Griffin is an overrated chump who can only dunk (which happens a lot), its perfectly reasonable for you to post information disproving that. Do your thing, man.

 

[akhi]

 

Beasley: THERE'S TWO OF YOU GUYS..? TWO ******!?

Marcus/Markieff: Yeah *****, I told you we twins...

Beasley: NAH *****, STOP PLAYIN WITH ME MAN!!!

 

 

[noblekane]

We talking bout paul george hair? He the black pat riley

 

[lawdog1]

SKA or CP or Lawdog or any other senior memebers of NT, playing in the post>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Kings starting PF

What, you're just assuming we all have those crafty, old man post moves?

 

[Arthur Shelby]

beno udrih defense

 

[rck3sactown]

SKA or CP or Lawdog or any other senior memebers of NT, playing in the post>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Kings starting PF

What, you're just assuming we all have those crafty, old man post moves?

Nah, I'm just assuming you guys can play some defense and rebound.

Maybe hit an open jumper every now and then, thats all just stuff that none of the Kings PF's can seem to do

 

[grandtheftbike]

Quake is a lame nickname

What about High Griffinition?

the biracial facial

 

[noblekane]

the biracial facial

Or russell from buster and me

 

[drewsone]

 

Beasley: THERE'S TWO OF YOU GUYS..? TWO ******!?

Marcus/Markieff: Yeah *****, I told you we twins...

Beasley: NAH *****, STOP PLAYIN WITH ME MAN!!!>:  

 

[do work son]

So Zyzz complains that the thread sucks and it's nothing but trolls running around posting nonsense.

Then someone proceeds to try to bring the discussion back to basketball with an actual NBA related article.

Then Zyzz crosses out the entire article and says that no one cares.

Ha. The irony.

because no one cares to read about blake griffin, talk about something interesting.

that was a weak troll attempt

troll attempt? he posted a serious article. many people in here like to say blake isn't skilled, or all he can do is dunk. he posts an article disproving that, and you cross it out. you were the one with the weak troll attempt. be apart of the solution, not the problem.

as far as the actual article. people don't care about efficiency in here, people just care about aesthetics. the smoothest dream shake and the clunkiest most robotic spin layup both count for 2 points. only thing that matters is the percentage they shoot it at.

 

[darthska]

LarryDavid1: *warned* (trolling)

Check your PM. I doubt you'll respond because that would just be between me and you, and your point is to show out in front of people, but I'm PMing you anyways.

Your next off-topic response in here will result in a suspension.

You can't say "It ain't that serious," and then refuse to let it go. 

 

 

[markangelo]

good article about Griffin. Can someone pelase tell the blazers to stop playing around, it's not funny that they're 2nd seed

 

[ballinsam23]

Blazers aint playing around though g

They'll finish 6th barring injuries

 

[markangelo]

Blazers aint playing around though g

They'll finish 6th barring injuries

dont they have the easiest schedule by far?

But I would put them in 6th as well...