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But but but
Didn't know a decade worth of mediocrity made good prospects expendable ...meh we'll take him
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But but but
Didn't know a decade worth of mediocrity made good prospects expendable ...meh we'll take him
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He made The best decision then. I know FSU wasn't giving him a look at RB and with Hird and Paulk already commits at RB for Vols he was starting to see his carries would be scarce. I think he's a ray Graham/Isia Pead type rb. Hope he gets his shot and takes advantage of it
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He's still not going to be the 3rd RB in the 2014 class at Miami
That's a big plus
That's a big plus
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Kameel Jackson is at Tennessee now? Mind blown.
Such irony since he tried to toss up my nephew at a house party a few months ago over a female. Everybody looking at this dude like bro calm yo *** down. Only then a few dudes recognized him & he actually started to chill.
Crazy situation & best of luck to him.
Such irony since he tried to toss up my nephew at a house party a few months ago over a female. Everybody looking at this dude like bro calm yo *** down. Only then a few dudes recognized him & he actually started to chill.
Crazy situation & best of luck to him.
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He definitely could be if Dalvin Cook flips and he's aware of it. He said he welcomes the competition.
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You're reading way too much into it.
Believe it or not, not every HS kid bases the biggest decision of their life based on who else is committed to a school at the same position.
I don't care how good Duke is, I want RBs who come in with the mentality that they can beat him out. South Florida RBs, other than Alex Collins, don't usually shy away from competition anyway.
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"......I want to formerly extend a scholarship offer..."
"....Continue to win conference championships..."
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Todd Gurley's new bodyguard
**** bout to get real, the whole team from OL to DL is in tremendous shape
that face mask doe !!!! Quayvon gonna beast this season doe watch
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*types in bobby washington in youtube*
*cries*
greatest running ever bruh<---things i said in highschool
he became that dude in higshchool right when the hurricanes
started to suck to.....nothing went right for a few years
*cries*
greatest running ever bruh<---things i said in highschool
he became that dude in higshchool right when the hurricanes
started to suck to.....nothing went right for a few years
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Buddy who went to NC State ?
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"......I want to formerly extend a scholarship offer..."
"....Continue to win conference championships..."
London is such a clown. They have never even won an outright ACC title. I understand kids not wanting to come to Tech, but to turn us down for freaking UVA is straight foolery.
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[h2]Scouting Report: WSU vs. Auburn's defense[/h2]
By Brian Anderson @b17anderson on Jul 22 2013, 4:05p 28
There's a new defensive coordinator on the Alabama plains. We preview Ellis Johnson's defense and what it'll try and do against coach Mike Leach's Air Raid.
Auburn's defense wasn't exactly terrible last season, but it wasn't all that good either, allowing the "worst single-season defensive performance in school history". However, know that whatever defensive stats from last season you might read leading up to Aug. 31, when the Cougs head to The Plains and step on field in Jordan-Hare, they'll be facing a completely different defense.
They're taking the game of football and turning it into soccer or lacrosse. There's nothing wrong with those sports, but that's not football -Ellis Johnson, on spread offenses in 2011
Auburn Head Coach Gus Malzahn was brought in to replace Gene Chizik after last season's 3-9 effort, and coach Malzahn called on Ellis Johnson, age 61, to run the defense. Johnson comes to Auburn following a pretty dismal experience as head man for only a year at Southern Mississippi. Prior to that? He orchestrated two top 15 defenses at South Carolina from 2008-2011.
Johnson realized he was spending a lot of time in his Nickel coverage trying to defend various spread offenses and struggling to manage substitutions against up tempo teams. To counter the need for personnel changes, he began running a 4-2-5, slightly modifying a Nickel set. This defense has been around for over 40 years, since teams first started trying to defend the Wing T, but has recently been used successfully at the FBS level by Gary Patterson at TCU.
[h5]DEFENSIVE FRONT[/h5]
A 4-2-5 (notation for the number of defensive linemen-linebackers-secondary) plays with four down lineman; a nose tackle, defensive tackle, weak side end, and strong side end. Johnson prefers to slide his lineman, rather than flipping them based on formation strength or boundary. This means his tackles will both be able to play "0/1 technique" (on the center) and "3 technique" (outside shade on a guard), and both of his ends can be a speed rusher if the occasion calls for it.
Typical base alignments will have the "boundary" side (the side of the formation closest to the sideline) and "field" side. These are usually the "weak" and "read" sides, respectively. The read side defensive end will play an outside shade "5 technique" -- outside the shoulder of the offensive tackle -- and will often use outside leverage to speed rush. The read side defensive tackle will be a 3 technique, with few exceptions, and the nose tackle will line up in a backside 0 shade (or 1 technique in some numbering systems). This DT/NT alignment is a very common pairing, especially with 4-3 fronts. The backside DE is head up, playing a "4 technique."
The two linebackers are designated Mike (middle) and Will (weak side), and both play "30 alignment," or head up on the offensive guards and about 4 yards deep. Both are primarily concerned with run support, but will take "BOYS" (Back Out Your Side) and effectively wall inside routes by receivers. Wall technique is like it sounds, they screen them from crossing if possible, then continue running underneath.
Expect to see these six in the box for the majority of the game. They are able to vary some twists and slants, more or less independent of whatever coverage is happening behind them.
For pass protection, that means G/C will usually combo the NT, the opposite G will be manned on the 3-tech DT, and the RB will need to slide to whichever DE is beating his man. The battle between the T and speed rushing DE should be the one to pay the most attention to; that player is usually a freak athlete who's only purpose is to create havoc in the backfield when told to rush. In other scenarios, he can drop to an OLB position and give a 3-3-5 look, or 3-4 look if the "Star" safety (introduced below) comes in the box.
An adjustment you might see on short yardage, or if by some strange twist of fate the Cougs are running the ball well, is a move to this "power" alignment. DTs both move to 3-tech, the DEs are out at 5-tech and Mike is head up on the center. Will moves to the B gap on either side, depending on formation strength. Auburn went to this a few times during the A-Day game against 20 personnel sets.
[h4]Coverage[/h4]
The 4-2-5 has strengths in it's versatility -- as you might have noticed it can rather effortlessly transition between a multitude of defenses on the fly. This defense is capable of a lot of things with the right personnel at Star and DE. A final tally of its alignments: 4-2-5, 3-3-5, 4-3, 4-4, 3-4. And the coverage is just as adaptable. Let's look at what we should expect to see from it's base:
Ellis Johnson's defense has three safeties; a free, weak side, and "Star". The Star ($) safety is a linebacker hybrid that is capable of walking into the box for a more traditional 4-3 look, and Johnson can play two Stars instead of a weak side safety to give a 4-4 look. These players are traditionally undersized linebackers in high school, meaning 6 foot 1 inches and around 200 pounds. The Star for Auburn this year was a stand out during their A-Day game (spring game: video), Justin Garret. This is the key player on the Auburn defense, and his play likely will dictate the majority of reads for the Wazzu Air Raid. His coverage will be most similar to what the Cougs faced against Oregon State Nickel CB Jordan Poyer last season.
Auburn is able to play a fairly wide variety of coverages (read more about basic defensive coverage here). The five secondary players are set up to transition to Cover 4, 3, and 2 rather seamlessly. Against traditional pro style sets, the default would bring the star and weak side safeties into the box, lining up 3 by 3 off the defensive end and play Cover 3 behind it, or only the Star down and play Cover 2 or 4, looking like a 4-3 defense.
Against the Air Raid, I would expect their default to look like what you see above. During the A-Day game, the Tigers gave us a look at some of their alignment facing Wazzu formations. First is Ace.
The responsibility for calling out coverages is split between two players. The read side FS will call coverage for that side and the WS safety will communicate the backside coverage with the backer and corner on his side. For the description of coverage specifics, I'll be drawing heavily from a list of links provided by Coach Hoover, an excellent X and O resource. This may not be exactly what the Cougs will face on every down of their game against Auburn, but it should describe the Tigers' base coverage against 10/20 (one running back and two running back) personnel formations in the Air Raid.
On the weak, or boundary side, the WS and C play a combo man coverage commonly called "Blue", although the nomenclature can be different place to place. Both players read the #2 WR (for a defense, wide receivers are numbered outside-in on both sides of the field). The important line is 8 yards down field. If #2 WR makes an out cut before 8 yards, WS makes a "wheel" call and the C leaves #1 to come up on #2. If #2 WR cuts inside before 8 yards, WS makes an "in" call, passing him to the backer who walls, and then doubles #1 with the C. If the #2 WR pushes vertical past 8 yards, the WS takes him man to man and the C mans up with #1.
[h2]Air Raid Playbook[/h2]
We dissect the common pass concepts in Mike Leach's Air Raid
Any time coverage switches, it's an advantage to make that defensive read as difficult as possible. Double moves, wheel-curl combinations and crossing patterns that occur right at 8 yards complicate the defensive switch and man calls. Bubble/Jailbreak screens to the boundary could also be effective for short yardage. Z and X shallow cross patterns would also be difficult for the corner to chase across the formation (#2 gets vertical in this play and would force man coverage by the corner).
On the field side, the Star, FS and C play Cover 2. This isn't the normal Cover 2 where the corner squats in the flat, LB has hook-to-curl, and the safety takes the deep half. Instead, they'll be playing a version called "Robber". Robber coverage is popular with Nickel.
The FS will be about 10 yards off the ball, and over the offensive tackle. At the snap, instead of taking an angled deep half drop, the FS stays flat footed reading the offensive line. If he reads pass from line, he eyes #2 WR. The 8 yard line becomes important again. If #2 WR pushes vertical past 8 yards, the FS makes a "push" call and picks him up man to man. Any cut inside or outside before 8 yards, the FS will look to get under the #1, robbing a dig, curl or post.
The corner is lined up about 7 yards off the ball and bails, playing half coverage over the #1 receiver. The Star is responsible for inside and outside cuts by the #2 WR, and jumps under #1 (robbing) if he gets a "push" call by the FS.
The Robber/Blue combination is pretty standard, but not the only thing they can do from this alignment. For instance, Star and the weak side safety can both crash and the corners/FS drop in Cover 3. When determining coverage remember to check - corner depth, number of high safeties, number in the box. 4-2-5 can disguise things by toying with the number of high safeties and the number in the box it shows before the snap. It can't play with Corner depth all that much.
Put names and numbers to the positions by looking at the post spring depth chart.
Someone forgot to tell No. 21 Jonathon Mincey that despite the +80,000 fans in attendance, this was still a scrimmage. He now holds the honor of being the only college student-athlete (I've heard of) to be ejected from the spring game, and might be the very first application of the new 'automatic ejection for targeting' rule. Whatever, No. 86 Dimitri Reese probably deserved it...and the taunting was definitely necessary. Lesson learned, block the corner on a bubble screen or bad things happen to good people.
Expect this defense to show a few different looks. They didn't do a whole lot in the A-Day game, but defenses don't often show all their cards in the spring. The Base 4-2-5 should give you a good starting point for what they're doing but don't be surprised if they start to mix it up, especially if the Air Raid gets rolling.
If you care to focus on a position during the game, watch the Star (Justin Garret) or field side defensive end. Both will be very crucial to what WSU is able to do on any given play.
For more on the Auburn Tigers, check out College and Magnolia
Joel A. Erickson of al.com also took a look at Ellis Johnson's defense. A link to his post on safeties is here; the others in his series are linked at the bottom of it. His series offers little in the way of Xs and Os or actual scheme, and is mostly coach speak sort of snippets, but you can get a little familiar with the names involved.
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25 days away!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I know most of yall only watch major conferences but do yall think Fresno St can win the MWC over Boise?
I know most of yall only watch major conferences but do yall think Fresno St can win the MWC over Boise?
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he commited to UM but something happen in killian where like half football team was
cheating on standardized test's
he was like the #4 ranked player in the country if i remember correctly and he was on the cover of those magazines they had in highschool back in the day , he broke 2000 yards a few times and won a pair of state championships in florida 6A
everyone knew him down here back in the days , but he completely fell off the map
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[h1]Sources: NCAA investigating Manziel[/h1]
Updated: August 4, 2013, 5:20 PM ET
By Darren Rovell and [color= rgb(0, 0, 0)]Justine Gubar[/color] | ESPN.com
MIAMI -- The NCAA is investigating whether Heisman Trophy winner Johnny Manziel was paid for signing hundreds of autographs on photos and sports memorabilia in January, "Outside the Lines" has learned. Two sources tell "Outside the Lines" that the Texas A&M quarterback agreed to sign memorabilia in exchange for a five-figure flat fee during his trip to Miami for the BCS National Championship Game. Both sources said they witnessed the signing, though neither saw the actual exchange of money.
Three sources said Manziel signed photographs, footballs, mini football helmets and other items at the request of an autograph broker named Drew Tieman. Two sources, who are aware of the signing arrangement, told "Outside the Lines" that Tieman approached Manziel on Jan. 6 when he landed at the Fort Lauderdale-Hollywood International Airport to attend the game between Alabama and Notre Dame the next day.
After that meeting, three sources said, Manziel, accompanied by his friend and personal assistant Nathan Fitch, visited Tieman's residence and signed hundreds of items in the main room of the apartment despite the fact that there were many people in the room. Before Manziel left South Florida, after taking in the title game, he signed hundreds of autographs more, one source said.
The source also told "Outside the Lines" that James Garland, the NCAA's assistant director of enforcement, in June contacted Tieman and at least one person associated with the signings. The source said Garland, who did not return calls from "Outside the Lines" for comment, told the person that he wanted to talk about Manziel signing items that had appeared for sale on eBay. An NCAA spokeswoman cited NCAA policy to "Outside the Lines" and declined to comment.
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If the NCAA investigation finds that Manziel has violated NCAA Bylaw 12.5.2.1 -- accepting money for promoting or advertising the commercial sale of a product or service -- he could be ruled ineligible.
Attempts to reach Manziel were unsuccessful. Tieman did not return multiple calls and text messages. Fitch could not be reached.
In a statement, Jason Cook, Texas A&M's senior associate athletics director for external affairs, said "it is Texas A&M's longstanding practice not to respond to such questions concerning specific student-athletes."
But A&M has responded to questions about Manziel and autographs before. On March 6, when ESPN.com contacted the school's compliance director, David Batson, to address a slew of Manziel signed items that had flooded the memorabilia market, Batson provided a statement:
"Johnny has indicated on numerous occasions and, once again earlier today, that he has never (and to his knowledge, his parents, other relatives and friends have ever) been compensated though cash or other benefits or promises of deferred compensation for providing his autograph," Batson wrote.
While college athletes are frequently asked to sign autographs in public places, and those autographs often end up for sale on eBay, the amount of Manziel product that flooded the memorabilia market overall following the BCS title game was overwhelming, memorabilia dealers told "Outside the Lines."
While Manziel's father, Paul, had alleged that many of the items were fake, two of the leading autograph authentication companies, PSA/DNA and James Spence Authentication JSA, have authenticated many of the items.Officials with both companies have told ESPN in recent months that they stand by their guarantee that they believe the signatures, some with inscriptions like "Gig 'Em" and "Heisman '12" are genuine. Online verification databases show signed a single lot of 999 signed Manziel photos numbered sequentially. JSA authenticated 248 items and 376 items that came in in two batches that also are numbered sequentially. Industry insiders say this indicates the signings were done in large quantities intended for wholesale.
Calls and messages to Paul Manziel were not returned.
Even though Manziel is not allowed to generate income from his signature, the Manziel family has sought to protect Johnny's business affairs by starting a corporation, JMAN2 Enterprises, which in February of this year filed for the trademark to use "Johnny Football" when he was ready to leave the college game.
The value of Manziel is clear in the memorabilia and appearance market: Independent merchandiser Aggieland Outfitters recently auctioned off six helmets signed by Manziel and Texas A&M's other Heisman Trophy winner John David Crow for $81,000. Texas A&M's booster organization, the 12th Man Foundation, sold a table for six, where Manziel and Crow will sit at the team's Kickoff Dinner later this month, for $20,000.
The school has committed to renovating Kyle Field, which will push seating capacity to 102,500 by the time it is completed in 2015. Texas A&M officials have said that donors, who make annual contributions of $80,000 to $100,000, have purchased all but two of the 144 suites in the stadium.
Manziel led the Aggies to an 11-2 season and a top five finish for the first time since 1956, in the school's first year in the SEC. He and his teammates are scheduled to report Sunday afternoon for the 2013-14 season. He is scheduled to address the media Monday.
Manziel's offseason has drawn heavy media scrutiny. Over the past few months, Manziel has been spotted in the front row at NBA games, hanging out with rappers at bars, and has written various headline-starting tweets, including one in which he said he couldn't wait to leave College Station - the home of Texas A&M. He was kicked out of the Manning Passing Academy last month for showing up late to meetings, a result that also led to national news.
Manziel's father, Paul, recently told ESPN The Magazine that he doesn't like how the school hasn't protected the family from the NCAA and how he believes that school administrators put their motives above his son's well-being.
"It's starting to get under our skin," he said. "They're so selfish."
Manziel also acknowledged that he was concerned about his son's drinking and how he is dealing with celebrity.
"Yeah, it could all come unraveled," Johnny's father told The Magazine. "And when it does, it's gonna be bad. Real bad."
Updated: August 4, 2013, 5:20 PM ET
By Darren Rovell and [color= rgb(0, 0, 0)]Justine Gubar[/color] | ESPN.com
MIAMI -- The NCAA is investigating whether Heisman Trophy winner Johnny Manziel was paid for signing hundreds of autographs on photos and sports memorabilia in January, "Outside the Lines" has learned. Two sources tell "Outside the Lines" that the Texas A&M quarterback agreed to sign memorabilia in exchange for a five-figure flat fee during his trip to Miami for the BCS National Championship Game. Both sources said they witnessed the signing, though neither saw the actual exchange of money.
Three sources said Manziel signed photographs, footballs, mini football helmets and other items at the request of an autograph broker named Drew Tieman. Two sources, who are aware of the signing arrangement, told "Outside the Lines" that Tieman approached Manziel on Jan. 6 when he landed at the Fort Lauderdale-Hollywood International Airport to attend the game between Alabama and Notre Dame the next day.
After that meeting, three sources said, Manziel, accompanied by his friend and personal assistant Nathan Fitch, visited Tieman's residence and signed hundreds of items in the main room of the apartment despite the fact that there were many people in the room. Before Manziel left South Florida, after taking in the title game, he signed hundreds of autographs more, one source said.
The source also told "Outside the Lines" that James Garland, the NCAA's assistant director of enforcement, in June contacted Tieman and at least one person associated with the signings. The source said Garland, who did not return calls from "Outside the Lines" for comment, told the person that he wanted to talk about Manziel signing items that had appeared for sale on eBay. An NCAA spokeswoman cited NCAA policy to "Outside the Lines" and declined to comment.
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If the NCAA investigation finds that Manziel has violated NCAA Bylaw 12.5.2.1 -- accepting money for promoting or advertising the commercial sale of a product or service -- he could be ruled ineligible.
Attempts to reach Manziel were unsuccessful. Tieman did not return multiple calls and text messages. Fitch could not be reached.
In a statement, Jason Cook, Texas A&M's senior associate athletics director for external affairs, said "it is Texas A&M's longstanding practice not to respond to such questions concerning specific student-athletes."
But A&M has responded to questions about Manziel and autographs before. On March 6, when ESPN.com contacted the school's compliance director, David Batson, to address a slew of Manziel signed items that had flooded the memorabilia market, Batson provided a statement:
"Johnny has indicated on numerous occasions and, once again earlier today, that he has never (and to his knowledge, his parents, other relatives and friends have ever) been compensated though cash or other benefits or promises of deferred compensation for providing his autograph," Batson wrote.
While college athletes are frequently asked to sign autographs in public places, and those autographs often end up for sale on eBay, the amount of Manziel product that flooded the memorabilia market overall following the BCS title game was overwhelming, memorabilia dealers told "Outside the Lines."
While Manziel's father, Paul, had alleged that many of the items were fake, two of the leading autograph authentication companies, PSA/DNA and James Spence Authentication JSA, have authenticated many of the items.Officials with both companies have told ESPN in recent months that they stand by their guarantee that they believe the signatures, some with inscriptions like "Gig 'Em" and "Heisman '12" are genuine. Online verification databases show signed a single lot of 999 signed Manziel photos numbered sequentially. JSA authenticated 248 items and 376 items that came in in two batches that also are numbered sequentially. Industry insiders say this indicates the signings were done in large quantities intended for wholesale.
Calls and messages to Paul Manziel were not returned.
Even though Manziel is not allowed to generate income from his signature, the Manziel family has sought to protect Johnny's business affairs by starting a corporation, JMAN2 Enterprises, which in February of this year filed for the trademark to use "Johnny Football" when he was ready to leave the college game.
The value of Manziel is clear in the memorabilia and appearance market: Independent merchandiser Aggieland Outfitters recently auctioned off six helmets signed by Manziel and Texas A&M's other Heisman Trophy winner John David Crow for $81,000. Texas A&M's booster organization, the 12th Man Foundation, sold a table for six, where Manziel and Crow will sit at the team's Kickoff Dinner later this month, for $20,000.
The school has committed to renovating Kyle Field, which will push seating capacity to 102,500 by the time it is completed in 2015. Texas A&M officials have said that donors, who make annual contributions of $80,000 to $100,000, have purchased all but two of the 144 suites in the stadium.
Manziel led the Aggies to an 11-2 season and a top five finish for the first time since 1956, in the school's first year in the SEC. He and his teammates are scheduled to report Sunday afternoon for the 2013-14 season. He is scheduled to address the media Monday.
Manziel's offseason has drawn heavy media scrutiny. Over the past few months, Manziel has been spotted in the front row at NBA games, hanging out with rappers at bars, and has written various headline-starting tweets, including one in which he said he couldn't wait to leave College Station - the home of Texas A&M. He was kicked out of the Manning Passing Academy last month for showing up late to meetings, a result that also led to national news.
Manziel's father, Paul, recently told ESPN The Magazine that he doesn't like how the school hasn't protected the family from the NCAA and how he believes that school administrators put their motives above his son's well-being.
"It's starting to get under our skin," he said. "They're so selfish."
Manziel also acknowledged that he was concerned about his son's drinking and how he is dealing with celebrity.
"Yeah, it could all come unraveled," Johnny's father told The Magazine. "And when it does, it's gonna be bad. Real bad."
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TCU had a good weekend of recruiting. Picked up LB Jimmie Swain and OT Ty Barrett. Nice looking 2014 class so far. Still work to do though.
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[COLOR=#red]They're coming for our QB. I have a feeling the Manziel "Era" might not end well. Please let me be supremely wrong. [/COLOR]
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Was just about to post that. Thought he was slick like it wouldn't catch up to him.
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Not an Aggie fan but this is ridiculous.
Im not for paying NCAA athletes but I do think they should be allowed to broker their own deals. If a company wants them for a commercial they should be able to do it. If they want to setup autograph signings they should be able to do it. The NCAA makes money, the athlete should be able to capitalize off their fame as well. So dumb.
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Gonna be a good one, some ballers on both of those teams with good alumni, but I'm goin with Sandy Creek.
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Ok enough is enough who is out for Manziel's blood??
who is out for Manziel's blood??
