2013 NFL Draft thread - ( Early Entrees, Mocks, Combine etc )

Amerson lost so much money this year its crazy...going into the Tenn game he was projected to go top 5.


i bet he cried himself to sleep after that game.
 
Off the top, Miami game, right?

Getting close to the INT record was a curse in disguise. Amerson was playing for individual accolades, picks, sitting on routes, guessing worse than Zant, etc. Didn't handle top-5 prospect pressure well. You can't teach those ball skills though. Versatility at multiple positions. Runs well enough for his frame/size. Chip on his shoulder to prove. Give me Amerson over any DB in R2.
 
might have to retract my dee milliner top 5 slander

even though justin hunter made him look pretty silly on a 

play or two

 
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in the discussion of what position in the draft has the biggest dropoff after the best projected player

"major mixed opinions on xavier rhodes , some people even think he's gonna play safety"- mel kiper

*waits for Dreclark*
 
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I wouldn't necessarily say Amerson is 'physical' in man-man coverage. He's been in zone for the most part, and doesn't really have the tools to thrive as a press corner. And theres a few corners I'd take in R2/R3 before Amerson - I still think he moves to safety.
 
No surprise to me, but looks like others may be coming on to Tyler Wilson. To me, he's the QB to have from this draft.

Former Arkansas QB Tyler Wilson could emerge as NFL draft-day surprise

BRADENTON, Fla. – The Great New Thing does not look like Tyler Wilson standing in the pocket. The Great New Thing does not hold tight as the pass rush descends. The Great New Thing does not run to the sideline in long, loping strides to avoid a sack. The Great New Thing is supposed to dash around tacklers and throw while scampering. The Great New Thing is supposed to be dazzling and dynamic and all the words that anyone can invent to explain the way football is going to change.

Except what do you do in the year of the read-option quarterback when all you are is a version of the traditional passer that has worked for decades?

"I'm not going to be that [read-option] guy," Wilson, the former Arkansas quarterback, said this week during a break in his training at the IMG Academy. "I am a guy who uses his own ability."

In every NFL draft there is a Tyler Wilson, a player who the draft experts say is not The Great New Thing. The list of negatives they spill come in a nitpicking torrent: Not fast enough, not big enough, not accurate enough, throws too hard, throws too soft. Then comes the draft day when the player who was supposed to go the second day – or the third – is taking a first-round phone call as his name is announced on national TV.

That's when everyone realizes that something had happened. A meeting. A workout. At some point, the NFL people decided that the man looked like a quarterback after all. They saw presence. They understood that this is what they were searching for all along. They didn't need The Great New Thing, they just needed someone to lead a team in the NFL.

Chris Weinke has watched the process enough. The march of top draft quarterback prospects to the football academy he runs at IMG has been steady these last three years. He molded Cam Newton, tended to Christian Ponder and developed Ryan Tannehill. He spent an afternoon last spring watching a modest prospect from Wisconsin named Russell Wilson and knew he was watching greatness. Weinke, who was an NFL quarterback himself for seven seasons, figures he understands what kind of man will win games in the NFL. He is sure he sees it in Tyler Wilson.

"The things I look for are: Is the guy consistent? Can he be coached? Does he want to be successful?," Weinke said as he sat in his office on Tuesday, one of the last days he will spend with Wilson before the quarterback goes back to Arkansas for his pro day March 15 and then the endless line of interviews with NFL teams. "He's got all three."

The trendy thing to say about next month's draft is that it's missing a great quarterback. In a lot of ways this is why people say the draft is weak at the top. It lacks a big name that everyone can sell. Last year it was easy for the networks to run draft commercials with Andrew Luck and Robert Griffin III. No one is going to make a commercial about Tyler Wilson.

Last year as a starter for the second season, at Arkansas he threw for 3,387 yards and 21 touchdowns, but he also was intercepted 13 times and was sacked 14 times. Given the fact that Arkansas was 4-8 in the abysmal fall that followed coach Bobby Petrino's motorcycle ride, these are not the numbers that flutter the hearts of draft nerds.

Nothing screams The Great New Thing.

And that gnaws at Tyler Wilson – more than it does at any quarterback Weinke has ever seen, including Russell Wilson who seemed to quietly seethe at suggestions he was too small to play in the NFL.

"That's what gets me every night before I go to bed," said Tyler Wilson, who has good size (6-foot-2, 215 pounds) and impressive arm strength.

Weinke loves this. He figures every quarterback needs motivation, some kind of a chip on his shoulder to push him to greatness. The one on Tyler Wilson's shoulder is different. It's hard to see when you shake the player's hand and get a warm smile and a good laugh. But Weinke can't help but notice the burning in the two months they have worked together. He sees it in the way the ball fires from Wilson's hands, the way he pushes as he lifts weights and runs sprints and studies in their breakout sessions.

This could all be seen as enthusiasm if it wasn't so obvious that it was coming from a darker place, one fueled by criticism and oversight. Go ahead and talk about all the read-option guys. Say there's no great quarterbacks in this draft. Say the name Tyler Wilson and laugh. But come draft day, he is convinced the chuckles will be gone.

"Watching his film, he's the toughest guy I've ever watched," Weinke said.

Asked how he measures this, Weinke smiled.

"Nobody has taken as many hits and come back to make plays as he has," he replied.

And knowing enough about the NFL and how NFL coaches and general managers work, he is sure someone will watch the same films and will make the same conclusions and will talk to Wilson and feel the passion raging like few other quarterbacks they have seen. They will not be able to resist. They will have to have him.

That then will be the draft day surprise to everyone who heard his name and shrugged and figured they shouldn't care because he wasn't The Great New Thing.
Just a man who wants to show how wrong you are going to be.
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"I'm not going to be that [read-option] guy," Wilson, the former Arkansas quarterback, said this week during a break in his training at the IMG Academy. "I am a guy who uses his own ability."
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WTH does that even mean?
 
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I think I like Jordan Poyer more than any corner in this draft.
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He's nice but I think I could name a few I'd take over Poyer. Good ball skills but lacks long speed. He was beat a few times over the top in the Senior Bowl.

Robert Alford is a sleeper imo
 
mike mayock just said ej manuel is the second best quarterback in the draft

him and tyler can make every throw but i just dont know if i'd bet the house on'em
 
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He can't read the MOF to save his life (or should I say he doesn't do it consistently) but I hope that he can sneak in the 1st round. I know he killed his interviews and did well on the chalkboard, 'Talking' football. And he was in an offense that prepared him, schematically and conceptually, for the NFL. Maybe some higher level coaching will help him out w/ cleaning up some of his issues (reading coverages, trusting his reads, mechanics). NFL coaches tend to be really cocky and believe that they can fix any problem.
 
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Damontre Moore put up 19 reps on bench at TAMU's pro day today. A lot better than the 12 he did at the combine.
 
It is better, but it isn't good. Unfortunately I think the damage is done

Thats still good for 3rd worst amongst DL bench press at the combine
 
idk if you consider how dominate he was early in the season , if he ever got respectable upper body strength

you'd hve to figure he's gonna get better lmao ....im sure he can get to 24-26 by season's start
 
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