2014-15 Lakers Season Thread (21-61) KAT

This summer, if the chance comes, Love, Rondo, Neither, or Both?

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^ Who's that guy?

Not you, CP.

How would I know? :lol

Just noting that people are starting to adjust the Okafor = auto #1 stuff that's been goin on all this time.

I have no idea who that clown is. But he has KAT #1, so I like him. :lol



Looked him up for you, he runs CBS Sports.com apparently.
 
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I put it right there man. :lol

My point is, instead of taking Russell/Mudiay and then searching for a true Center, maybe they reach for WCS, knowing they can pull Rondo in as well.

It all depends on how much Mitch likes/dislikes the prospects he works out. If WCS blows him away, and the guards are just eh, pretty good, maybe he goes that route.

I personally take Russell and am fine with it, but I understand if he somehow falls in love with a mobile 7 footer that defend everything. **** like that happens.
No I got what you meant. But who in they right mind would pass on Russel and pick WCS just to sign Rondo. That makes 0 sense.
Although I believe that WCS game might transfer the fastest in the league I wouldn't dare.
Russel has a chance to be Chris Paul and WCS has a chance to be Tyson Chandler.

Mitch & Jim just need to do what they have been doing. Staying patient and stay the course. Oh yea, and continue to blatantly tank. Say NO to Rondo. Say NO to Love. And if they land picks 1-4 say HELL NO to WCS
 
I'm still torn on WCS. He has most of the physical measurable, stats are good yet underwhelming (even after you extrapolate them) and he's like 21 already so you wonder how much potential he has left.
 
What do you guys see in Tobias Harris? He's a Max player? :lol

I'm not on the WCS train. He looked dazed and confused out there a few times in that notre dame game.
 
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He's a young, talented, promising player worth pursuing.

Pursuing players in free agency = paying the big bucks even if they haven't reached their potential yet. Roll of the dice to some extent.

But if you're going after someone to overpay in free agency, better that than a big name on the decline.
 
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We'll have to spend on somebody. I don't think Tobias is worth near a max. I'd rather resign Boss and get another piece.
 
Re: that article, Are there even 3 max guys to target in 2016 tho? If we draft a big we won't need a max big in free agency. A front court rotation of randle/towns/black/davis would be hellacious. I think when you find a gem like boss you don't let him walk for a flimsy fantasy of 3 max guys when you don't need 3 max guys (should have 3 starters solidified this summer) and there really aren't 3 max guys out there. On top of that you're hoping the late draft pick turns out to be as good as davis. I say keep him and if you draft his replacement he becomes a decent trade chip
 
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Kawhi, Butler, Jordan, Gasol, Middleton, Knight, Aldridge. None of those are obtainable.

So I ask who then would you like them to get in free agency that they can actually get that is better than Tobias?
 
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A lot of it depends on the draft say they are able to get a wing in one of the later picks, there becomes no need for Tobias at 4x the cost.

Same with Rondo, if it's at a reasonable number, get Towns or Okafor and slot him into the PG. Resign Boss and we're looking good going into next season.
 
Kawhi, Butler, Jordan, Gasol, Middleton, Knight, Aldridge. None of those are obtainable.

So I ask who then would you like them to get in free agency that they can actually get that is better than Tobias?

I don't have a problem with him. I just don't think he's nearly as good as people say in this thread. He's a decent player on a ****** team.

I wouldn't offer him more than 8 or 9/year if I couldn't find something better
 
A lot of it depends on the draft say they are able to get a wing in one of the later picks, there becomes no need for Tobias at 4x the cost.

Same with Rondo, if it's at a reasonable number, get Towns or Okafor and slot him into the PG. Resign Boss and we're looking good going into next season.

You hope that a wing in the 20s is able to give you consistent minutes off the bench.

Drafting a RHJ, doesn't mean that you now can ignore SF
 
Isn't this just a case of high usage player on a bad team putting up good stats? I mean tony wroten was dropping 20 a game on Philly before he tore his acl. ish smith is putting solid numbers too. Iono I don't think he could be nearly the same player on a good team.
 
You can ignore SF when KD is a free agent next summer. This is year 2 of a 4 year reconstruction. We don't have to fill every hole this summer.
 
In this day and age of the NBA, it's crucial to find players who, relative to their salary, produce a ton more. Take Rudy Gobert. Or Hassan Whiteside. Heck, even look at Jeff Teague or Stephen Curry. All these players have cap friendly deals. That allows to team to spend elsewhere. Speaking of spending, re-signing Davis will reduce the amount the Lakers can spend in 2016.

At the moment, the Lakers will potentially have about only $15-20 million in committed salaries headed into 2016. Given that the cap is estimated to shoot up ~$90 million, having over $70 million in cap space is going to be huge. While that won't be enough for three 30% max players, it's not illogical to think that if these 3 max guys wanted to do a LeBron-Wade-Bosh like deal, they'd each be willing to take paycuts. They'd still be making over $20 million each.

While trading Davis probably won't be hard in 2016 (although, there is a worry that he's putting up good numbers in a contract year, similar to what Nick Young did....but I think Davis' play is more sustainable), him being in the picture just complicates things. If LA didn't have guys like Randle, Kelly, Black and their potential draft picks, I'd be all over re-signing Davis for up to $9 million/year. But they do, so that's why I'm not worried at all about losing Big Boss.

There's validity that Black can replace Davis for the most part.

But that keeping the money in the vault for the hope of 3 Top Tier Free Agents is a bunch of crap.

We need to start building a team, and if we an only get 2 instead of 3 Top Tier Guys in 2016, we'll be fine. Isn't like spending money means we won't be able to get anyone.

Doesn't mean needlessly spend $18mil on Rondo, but another year of 1 year mess is not the right idea. Especially if we have all these young guys we want to grow/develop and have a meaningful rookie season.

Now I don't mind letting Ed walk because he's too much $, and we like someone else at a different position.. But letting him go for some future idea of 3 stars is bad business.
 
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You can ignore SF when KD is a free agent next summer. This is year 2 of a 4 year reconstruction. We don't have to fill every hole this summer.


Yes because let's bank on KD in 2016.

You do know Tobias plays 3/4. Sooooooo you can have Tobias and KD too, and make Tobias the 6th man.
 
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^Exactly. The top free agents in 2016 are lebron durant love horford. LBJ and kd play the same position so even hypothetically there's only room for one. Horford and towns/okafor/wcs same deal. Don't even get me started on love

Edit - that was aimed at your previous post E. If we're going after a restricted 2/3 I'd prefer middleton. Bucks are going to have to pay jabari and giannis eventually, maybe they let khris go with a pick for their troubles

Also what should be gathered from all this is that the lakers have a buttload of options and directions they can take this thing. This "no plan" talk is kind of silly
 
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Hopefully Tobias gets a max offer from the Knicks so we won't have to even entertain this.
 
Oh another game of the century tonight in Philly. After teasing us yesterday with that 1 point loss to the Cavs, they may just lay down from opening tip tonight. Losing this game could be franchise changing...no pressure guys.
 
^Exactly. The top free agents in 2016 are lebron durant love horford. LBJ and kd play the same position so even hypothetically there's only room for one. Horford and towns/okafor/wcs same deal. Don't even get me started on love

Edit - that was aimed at your previous post E. If we're going after a restricted 2/3 I'd prefer middleton. Bucks are going to have to pay jabari and giannis eventually, maybe they let khris go with a pick for their troubles

Also what should be gathered from all this is that the lakers have a buttload of options and directions they can take this thing. This "no plan" talk is kind of silly

They traded Brandon Knight for MCW to keep Middleton. Maybe they won't match a max, but trading Knight was a move to keep Middleton.

Just like Suns trading away our pick was because they want Knight long term.
 
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