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Love the wade b boy gifs.......need some of lj tho....
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2014 NBA Off-Season; Paul George suffers a double-compund-fracture, likely out for season. Speedy re
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Very entertained by this thread right now
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but i truly don't understand how miami fans can be mad, 4 straight finals, 2 championships
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You're welcome. Love you too
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mind-blowing isn't it?
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I got shotty on wigginz train 
he got that all star weekend on smash
he got that all star weekend on smash
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I have a huge problem with people lurking the Miami Heat thread only to run and post misinformation in this thread. Talk about some cowardly stuff. If you want to address what the Miami Heat fans have said, how bout you actually engage us instead of trying trolling here.
Anyone can lurk the threads."trolling" in team threads are against the rules. I didn't steep that low though.
I didn't post misinformation. Matter of fact, I can post verbatim what some people have said -what really killed me was when someone said the Cavs are trying to steal the Miami Heats formula to success, but can't because we don't have D wade and Chris Bosh
It's all good though fambs. I'm here for entertainment. I don't want anyone to legitimately hate me around here.
- I had another member one time PM me and was like dude, is "DNA LEVEL C" a Japanese Anime!? 
I didn't know how to respond.
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because now they have to be cavs fans
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Ja's 2¢
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Cuz they got rejected like the cavs did before they started winning the lottery every year...
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Watching NBATV Wiggins and Parker go at it. I don't wanna see Wiggins go maaaaaaaan
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why are people bringing up my name?
im a nice guy
i dont even troll
You know what, I'm actually going to agree with you. I've taken you off the troll list. I've accepted the fact that you just hate the Clippers and will go out of your way to talk **** about them. And honestly, I blame you less and less for it since a lot of what you say is in response to CFB.
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i really don't either
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Something tells me that since the Wolves haven't accepted the Cavs trade offer that was proposed; it didn't include wiggins. Which than made the Wolves sell their own tickets by contacting the Bulls to gauge interest to put some pressure onto the Cavs, to maybe include Wiggins?
I just don't see how you don't already accept an offer for a trade including Wiggins....unless he was never included in the deal to begin with?
Some mind-blowing stuff here.
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you should have stopped caring about what that jackass says long ago
After his latest comments about Canadians, I don't think I care what he says about anything
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Zyzz is good in my book. I actually like him. Still mad I sold him DS blue penny foams for 200 3 years ago, but he's my dude.
And I'm not messing with Do Work Son anymore. Fam got unlimited YouTube videos and quote arsenal for days if anyone ever try's proving him wrong
And I'm not messing with Do Work Son anymore. Fam got unlimited YouTube videos and quote arsenal for days if anyone ever try's proving him wrong
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And I'm not messing with Do Work Son anymore. Fam got unlimited YouTube videos and quote arsenal for days if anyone ever try's proving him wrong
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Zyzz is good in my book. I actually like him. Still mad I sold him DS blue penny foams for 200 3 years ago, but he's my dude.
And I'm not messing with Do Work Son anymore. Fam got unlimited YouTube videos and quote arsenal for days if anyone ever try's proving him wrong
they werent blue foams.. i freakin wish
it was the pewters
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Trading for Love is a no-brainer
Because this is the Internet, camps have formed since the Cleveland Cavaliers signed LeBron James and began exploring the possibility of trading No. 1 overall pick Andrew Wiggins to the Minnesota Timberwolves as part of a package for Kevin Love. Are you #TeamWiggins or #TeamLove?
Though it's certainly possible to be part of #TeamWiggins because of belief in his upside and the value of his cheap rookie contract, the debate has highlighted that not everyone is sold that Love is a superstar. As someone who's on the record believing that Love is a top-five player in the NBA and one of the most valuable to ever hit the trade market, let me explain why.
An elite scorer
We'll start with this: Love is not just a good scorer, he's a great one. He has managed to expand his perimeter game without sacrificing his interior scoring and trips to the free throw line. Last season, Love was one of four players in the league to average at least two 3-pointers and six free throws per game. (Love, who averaged 2.5 3s and 6.8 FTs, cleared both marks with ease.) The rest of the group, per Basketball-Reference.com: Carmelo Anthony, Kevin Durant and James Harden.
Because so much of his offense comes in the efficient spots around the basket, at the free throw line and beyond the 3-point arc, Love has pushed his usage rate to superstar territory the past three seasons without sacrificing his efficiency, as measured by true shooting percentage. Here's how the league as a whole rated by these two measures last season:
I've marked on the chart league averages (a 20 percent usage rate and a .541 true shooting percentage) and the line that reflects the typical trade-off between usage and efficiency. A player anywhere along that line is approximately an average scorer, and the farther that players are above it, the better they are. Let's zoom in on the top right quadrant, featuring players who are above average in both categories.
This time, I've shifted the line upward to make it easier to separate the best of the best scorers. Durant and LeBron James stand on their own. As I wrote during the season, Durant and James have shattered the previous threshold for the combination of usage and efficiency. Behind them are Harden and Stephen Curry, who are more efficient than any other non-MVP high scorers. Love and Dirk Nowitzki make up the third tier, ahead of less efficient players who use more possessions like Anthony and Russell Westbrook.
More than just a scorer
Love's work on the glass is well established. His rebound totals overstate his ability because Love plays more minutes than rebounding specialists, and spending so much time on the perimeter has made him merely an average offensive rebounder. Still, Love ranked fifth among regular players in defensive rebound rate in 2013-14.
Beyond that, Love improved the passing dimension of his game last season, in part because of the chemistry he developed throwing outlet passes to Corey Brewer. He handed out assists more frequently per play than George Hill or Patty Mills. Among big men, only Joakim Noah of the Chicago Bulls had a better assist rate than Love.
Numbers don't support Love as a defensive liability
Even the biggest Love skeptic would concede his prowess as a scorer and rebounder -- right before bringing up the defensive end. Here's the thing: It's hard to find statistical support for the widespread notion that Love is a defensive turnstile.
It's possible to highlight stats that showcase Love's defensive shortcomings, particularly as a rim protector. New SportVU player-tracking data on NBA.com showed that last season opponents shot 57.4 percent when Love was within five feet of attempts near the rim, the league's fourth-worst rate among players who defended at least five rim attempts per game.
However, opponent shooting percentage tells only half of the story. Love's reluctance to contest shots also kept him out of foul trouble and opponents off the free throw line. His 1.8 fouls per 36 minutes were the fewest of any regular big man last season (no one else was below 2.0 per 36), and not coincidentally, the Timberwolves allowed the league's lowest rate of free throws per field goal attempt. The trade-off between not fouling and surrendering layups didn't always work out for Minnesota and former coach Rick Adelman encouraged his team to foul more frequently, but looking at opponent shooting percentages without context is unfair to Love.
There's also the matter of rebounding. For individual players, defensive rebounding is not as valuable as offensive rebounding because many defensive rebounds are discretionary -- another defender will get the rebound if one individual does not -- but it's still part of defense, and the Timberwolves have had a better defensive rebound percentage with Love on the court every season of his career. Last season, per NBA.com/Stats, they rebounded 75.3 percent of opponents' misses with Love and 72.4 percent when he was on the bench.
Add it up and ESPN's real plus-minus shows Love as an above-average defensive player, even for a big man. (Post players rate better on defense in plus-minus metrics as compared to perimeter players.) And despite playing Love with another poor rim protector in center Nikola Pekovic, Minnesota was average defensively last season.
Why Wolves haven't won
The biggest Love criticism isn't defense. It's his team's record.
"Love is so overrated," one NBA executive told Insider's Jeff Goodman last week. "He's never won."
As bad as the Timberwolves have been overall, they have been worse without Love. As the chart at right shows, according to NBA.com/Stats only once in his six seasons has Minnesota been outscored by fewer than 4.7 points per 100 possessions -- a mark equivalent to last season's Detroit Pistons -- with Love on the bench. That came in 2012-13, when Love was limited to 18 games after breaking a bone in his hand during training camp.
Last season, the Timberwolves outscored opponents by 4.4 points per 100 possessions with Love on the floor, a mark similar to the Miami Heat with Ray Allen, for one. They were done in by their poor bench -- exacerbated by Adelman playing his starters together, which inflated their ratings at the expense of reserves -- and a historic inability to win close games. Minnesota finished with the league's 10th-best point differential, which would have ranked fourth in the East.
Even discounting those issues, the Timberwolves' combination of a high-rated star and a below-.500 finish was rare but not unprecedented. Love joined five other examples since the ABA-NBA merger, including Michael Jordan twice, of a player posting 20-plus wins above replacement player for a sub-.500 team.
While Jordan's Bulls grew into a contender later in his career (his appearances above came in his first and third seasons), Barkley, Garnett and Malone enjoyed newfound team success after changing uniforms. Malone and Garnett both won championships in their first season with their new teams, while Barkley's Suns reached the Finals in his first season. Barkley and Malone both were named MVP the year after their trades, and Garnett finished third in the voting.
In all those cases, it turned out that the problem was the rest of the team, not the star. The statistical evidence suggests a similar re-evaluation will take place if Love is traded to a team that can better support his unique skills.
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You mind posting that in the Cavs thread PMatic?
tried the copy and paste route and it didn't work well.
tried the copy and paste route and it didn't work well.
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