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[tyonenine]

Here's your 15 from the last 15 years

Shaq
Duncan
Kobe
LeBron
Durant
Iverson
T-Mac
Nash
Kidd
Garnett
Pierce
Dwight
Melo
Parker
Chris Paul

The Last 15 years? That spans from 98-99' to 2014.

Kobe
AI
KG
TD
Dirk
Lebron
PP
Chris Paul
Durant
Howard
Nash
Kidd

Laughable

 

[jbc908]

i swear some of yall gotta be high off opium when you post in here

 

[bilboshmangins]

I can understand dudes arguing for CP3 but this Kobe slander is just banworthy at this point. 

 

[jbc908]

I can understand dudes arguing for CP3 but this Kobe slander is just banworthy at this point. 

word

 

[osh kosh bosh]

Wade isn't overrated.


Just depends on you feel about Peak performance vs. Longevity.

I personally favor peak, Jamie Moyer could have pitched for 50 years and I won't think he's better than Doc Gooded for example.

but thats just me.

 

[Master Zik]

 

Jason Kidd is 3rd alltime in 3 pointers made, ALL TIME.

This 3pt talk isn't gonna fly.


Lets not front like he's been good at it. He got good in the later stages of his life and made a lot. He won't be 3 all time for long. Hell I'd say now that he's finally stopped expect him to be out of that top 10 sooner than later; Terry is only 38 3s behind him, Pierce still playing, Vince still playing, etc.


Aint no way I'm buying the idea that JKidd is a better 3pt shooter than CP or a few other clearly better players cuz with this same argument you can say Kidd is a better 3pt shooter than KD and Curry.

Y'all are bringing out numbers but the numbers say my man hit's the three very well. How you think the mavs won the chip?

You the one brought up the #s. Talking about he's 3rd all time like that's the beginning and ending of the argument about who is a better 3pt shooter. We talking about his entire career not the end of his career. You think bringing up how he hit 3s in that one finals wraps this up?

You wanna bet Kidd remains there? or that if Paul plays just as long as him he won't have made more along with a bunch of other players?

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

Chris Paul could've done the same damn thing in that weak *** East on that role playing roster Nets team.

With that said, you're saying Kidd's peak doesn't touch Paul's?

 

[osh kosh bosh]

just like how Tim Duncan winning an extra chip in his dotage has zero effect on my opinion on how good he was.

 

[Master Zik]

Chris Paul could've done the same damn thing in that weak *** East on that role playing roster Nets team.

With that said, you're saying Kidd's peak doesn't touch Paul's?

Paul is better.

When was Kidd's peak actually? In his prime or when he was still playing good as an old man? Cuz I'll take CP3's prime over Kidd's prime and it remains to be seen if Paul will be that good and that effective at an older age.

 

[jbc908]

The east was weak? When miller was eating in indy? And detroit had a dynasty no one could beat? And tmac was killing cats in orlando? Lmaooooo

 

[CP1708]

Wade isn't overrated.


Just depends on you feel about Peak performance vs. Longevity.

I personally favor peak, Jamie Moyer could have pitched for 50 years and I won't think he's better than Doc Gooded for example.

but thats just me.

I hear you, and understand the point, but Wade is not the 2nd best SG in league history.

Even Wade wouldn't say that.

 

[shoeking2101]

I can understand dudes arguing for CP3 but this Kobe slander is just banworthy at this point. 

How is it slander? Kobe's peak is not as great as Wade's. If you feel differently prove otherwise. That simple

 

[shoeking2101]

I hear you, and understand the point, but Wade is not the 2nd best SG in league history.

Even Wade wouldn't say that.

Nah wade fasho isn't the 2nd greatest 2 guard ever. But then again I value a sustained peak / longevity very strongly.

 

[jbc908]

I can understand dudes arguing for CP3 but this Kobe slander is just banworthy at this point. 

How is it slander? Kobe's peak is not as great as Wade's. If you feel differently prove otherwise. That simple

Kobe's peak is greater because kobe's peak started 99 and just ended in 2012, and still having monster games after. Dwade was like from 05-08

 

[fac3 tak30v312]

TMac was a pretty good defender for a stretch too, then he focused solely on offense.

Wade is a better defender overall tho, sure.

Again, for 5 years, he was a great two way player. TMac was in that 4-5 years range as well if I remember right.

IDK man TMac was basically Lebron esque on defense until his back started to give especially in his Toronto days... Sure Wade had an instinct for blocking shots but overall TMac was the better more versatile defender

 

[bilboshmangins]

 

 

 

Jason Kidd is 3rd alltime in 3 pointers made, ALL TIME.

This 3pt talk isn't gonna fly.


Lets not front like he's been good at it. He got good in the later stages of his life and made a lot. He won't be 3 all time for long. Hell I'd say now that he's finally stopped expect him to be out of that top 10 sooner than later; Terry is only 38 3s behind him, Pierce still playing, Vince still playing, etc.


Aint no way I'm buying the idea that JKidd is a better 3pt shooter than CP or a few other clearly better players cuz with this same argument you can say Kidd is a better 3pt shooter than KD and Curry.

Y'all are bringing out numbers but the numbers say my man hit's the three very well. How you think the mavs won the chip?

You the one brought up the #s. Talking about he's 3rd all time like that's the beginning and ending of the argument about who is a better 3pt shooter. We talking about his entire career not the end of his career. You think bringing up how he hit 3s in that one finals wraps this up?

You wanna bet Kidd remains there? or that if Paul plays just as long as him he won't have made more along with a bunch of other players?

that's ALLTIME #'s. Them ***** dont break easily. 

 

[CP1708]

Kobe's 02-03 year is better than Wade's best year 07-08, I think?

That's the magical "peak" yes?

 

[shoeking2101]

Kobe's peak is greater because kobe's peak started 99 and just ended in 2012, and still having monster games after. Dwade was like from 05-08

What your saying is kobe's peak is longer, not higher or better. Its a difference.

 

[bilboshmangins]

 

 

I can understand dudes arguing for CP3 but this Kobe slander is just banworthy at this point. 

How is it slander? Kobe's peak is not as great as Wade's. If you feel differently prove otherwise. That simple

Kobe's peak is greater because kobe's peak started 99 and just ended in 2012, and still having monster games after. Dwade was like from 05-08

Kobe has been holding you cats down for damn near two decades and ain't really fell off.

It's like saying Cam'ron was better rapper than Jay-Z. iSH JUST DON'T MAKE SENSE.

 

[osh kosh bosh]

I hear you, and understand the point, but Wade is not the 2nd best SG in league history.

Even Wade wouldn't say that.

hair splitting imo.

I've lost the energy for these arguments where the difference become so small.

Interms of career achivement, no one will say that, but im not interested in that.


the way i look at things, if I have peak wade, as the best player on a team full of average joes?

other than a jordan led squad it's a coin flip 7 game series for every other SG.

 

[jbc908]

Kobe's peak is greater because kobe's peak started 99 and just ended in 2012, and still having monster games after. Dwade was like from 05-08

What your saying is kobe's peak is longer, not higher or better. Its a difference.

Kobe accomplished more= better

 

[shoeking2101]

Kobe's 02-03 year is better than Wade's best year 07-08, I think?

That's the magical "peak" yes?

*08 09 and thats arguable but wade in 08-09 > Kobe in 02-03.

Lowkey my favorite kobe year ever. Those 40 straight for 9 games was epic. 30 or more for 15 straight.

 

[freeze]

Explain how his peak was higher

Well I'll ask you when would you say Kobe's peak was? 05-06? 02-03? Either way I feel like D Wade in 08 09 was better than any single year from Kobe

http://www.basketball-reference.com...um=0&p1=bryanko01&y1=2003&p2=wadedw01&y2=2009



http://www.basketball-reference.com...um=0&p1=bryanko01&y1=2006&p2=wadedw01&y2=2009

http://www.basketball-reference.com...um=0&p1=bryanko01&y1=2007&p2=wadedw01&y2=2009

 

[bilboshmangins]

05-06 kobe was basically a video game. No Wade season can even touch what Kobe was doing that year, your PER cowmanure be damned!!

 

[shoeking2101]

Kobe accomplished more= better

Who's saying wade is better than kobe? Who???