2014 NFL Draft Thread

Marquise Lee had the highest drop rate of all those dudes and the way he body catches I just don't see how he brings more to the table than a 20 year old Mike Evans who already has great hands and is a physical specimen.

Make a list of sub 6 ft sub 200 pound WRs that didn't have elite top end speed that cooked in the NFL as a #1 WR.

Reggie Wayne and Marvin Harrison off the top of my head.


Oh and some guy named Jerry Rice.

Isaac Bruce, Torry Holt, Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne, Tim Brown, Hines Ward, Derrick Mason, etc...

Plenty of WRs at 6' (or less) that had great careers.

Marqise is still a first round talent, IMO. We'll see what happens.

brady can turn a sub 6 foot receiver into a pro bowler no problem :hat
 
The stuff with Lee just reminds me too much of Keenan Allen last year. First round talent, had a crappy pro day (like 4.7 40), falls to the third round....

Ends up with 70 catches and 1000+ yards. OROY.

Not saying this is going to happen, but if Lee falls to the second round... someone will get a steal.
 
Marquise Lee had the highest drop rate of all those dudes and the way he body catches I just don't see how he brings more to the table than a 20 year old Mike Evans who already has great hands and is a physical specimen.

Make a list of sub 6 ft sub 200 pound WRs that didn't have elite top end speed that cooked in the NFL as a #1 WR.

Reggie Wayne and Marvin Harrison off the top of my head.


Oh and some guy named Jerry Rice.

Isaac Bruce, Torry Holt, Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne, Tim Brown, Hines Ward, Derrick Mason, etc...

Plenty of WRs at 6' (or less) that had great careers.

Marqise is still a first round talent, IMO. We'll see what happens.

If you are that short, you better have elite speed, at least elite hands and all those dudes you listed were technicians in route running and pretty much ALL of them weighed more than 200 pounds, all of them ran faster than 4.5.
 
The stuff with Lee just reminds me too much of Keenan Allen last year. First round talent, had a crappy pro day (like 4.7 40), falls to the third round....

Ends up with 70 catches and 1000+ yards. OROY.

Not saying this is going to happen, but if Lee falls to the second round... someone will get a steal.

Unless Lee had some unreported injury I don't see it.

Dude has poor hands.
 
Marquise Lee had the highest drop rate of all those dudes and the way he body catches I just don't see how he brings more to the table than a 20 year old Mike Evans who already has great hands and is a physical specimen.

Make a list of sub 6 ft sub 200 pound WRs that didn't have elite top end speed that cooked in the NFL as a #1 WR.

Reggie Wayne and Marvin Harrison off the top of my head.


Oh and some guy named Jerry Rice.

Isaac Bruce, Torry Holt, Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne, Tim Brown, Hines Ward, Derrick Mason, etc...

Plenty of WRs at 6' (or less) that had great careers.

Marqise is still a first round talent, IMO. We'll see what happens.

If you are that short, you better have elite speed, at least elite hands and all those dudes you listed were technicians in route running and pretty much ALL of them weighed more than 200 pounds, all of them ran faster than 4.5.

All of those dudes I listed ran faster than 4.5? Proof?

http://www.ponyfans.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=9434&start=0

"Bruce recalled with uncanny ease his combine time of a decade ago: 4.53. "I
don't know whether that helped or hurt," he said of his selection by the Rams
in the second round of the '94 draft."

Isaac Bruce was 188 pounds... Reggie Wayne weighed 5 pounds more than Lee did coming out of college...
 
You mean the article "The 40: It isn't 20-20" in the St. Louis dispatch... in which Isaac Bruce said the above quote?

He ran a 4.53. I mean, if Isaac Bruce says "I ran a 4.53" to a reporter, I'll take his word.
 
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You mean the article "The 40: It isn't 20-20" in the St. Louis dispatch... in which Isaac Bruce said the above quote?

He ran a 4.53. I mean, if Isaac Bruce says "I ran a 4.53" to a reporter, I'll take his word.

I stand corrected.

But back to the point, do you think that Marquise runs route as good or has the hands that Issac Bruce did?

Also Issac Bruce went in the 2nd round which were Marquise Lee is probably going to go.

I'm not saying Marquise Lee is going to be a bum I'm just saying he ain't going in the first round. Not this year.
 
I haven't posted in awhile in here but are y'all really having a conversation about whether
Or not marqise lee is electric??

Watch a little USC 2011 and the answer shouldn't be tough
 
Whoever has determined a guys 40 time equates to how successful that said player will be.... Shame on you

why? i thought WR's are constantly running 40 yards in a straight line, unimpeded, with no pads, and out of a sprinters stance :lol

i mean that's me being sarcastic. there is a SLIGHT part of it that translates, but overall when you're talking 4.3 v 4.4 v 4.5...who cares. i'd put more stock into how the guy runs routes, separates, catches the ball, and what's going on upstairs
 
Whoever has determined a guys 40 time equates to how successful that said player will be.... Shame on you
Dudes in here talking straight out of their *** with "catch % numbers" and "40 times" without ever watching that player play  like that means something.

A healthy Marqise with an above average QB is one of the most electric playmakers of the past decade in college football.
 
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Peter Warrick was electric in college too.

He's the last WR drafted in the first round in the last 20 years shorter than 6 ft tall that ran less than 4.5.

I repeat I'm not saying Lee will be a bum I'm saying he ain't going 1st round.
 
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If he is slipping down the boards id be ecstatic with Niners taking him at 30.

I always thought he caught away from his body well also.
 
The more I think about it that Peter Warrick/Lee comparison is on point.

It really isn't, though.

P Dub was my dude, but he was never 1/2 the receiver Marqise is. Peter was a better rusher and returner.

Peter was strictly a slot who relied on jukes after the catch for the most part (in the NFL).

Qise can play outside and in. He also plays much bigger than his size.
 
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