2014 NFL Draft Thread

[ogbobbyjohnson773]

He sounds like an eductaed, sober Dennis Rodman

 

[buc em]

We need to sign Jared Allen, Tillman and Mack in free agency. Cut Davin Joseph, slide Zuttah over to guard and hope Nicks can be healthy enough to be on the field this season. We need another receiver...Underwood shouldn't be a starter. I'd like one in the first two rounds. Also need a legit starting tight end. Wright can catch the ball but he doesn't really do much in the blocking department.

If by some chance of luck Teddy or Manziel don't drop to us or we don't trade up for them then I want us to sign Vick.

 

[worldbeefreeg]

I love the shower thing always. Biggest, toughest dudes sounding like such ******* is hilarious to me.

"What if he looks at me in the shower?"

 

[49ersaaron8]

Buc em you don't like glennon going forward or you talking about backup QB. Don't you guys have Aaron Rodgers brother may wanna see how he does in preseason.

 

[buc em]

I like Glennon as a solid backup. If Vick/Teddy/Manziel/whoever gets hurt again we atleast wouldn't have to turn to some scrub. You aren't going to win anything with him as your starter. He's great in the first half but usually craps his pants in the second half of games every time. Was kinda the same way in college.

 

[49ersaaron8]

I feel like your not giving the kid enough of a chance. He' started like 10 games last year. Has a huge arm and good feet in the pocket. Your the tampa fan so Im going to assume many other share your same sentiments. But the kid had flashes of brilliance this year. When he put that TD drive on the niners before the half this year I was kind of worried the kid had some comeback in him.

 

[49ersaaron8]

He was looking good in the Seattle game handing the ball to Mike james as well hahah. Nah but for real the I thought the kid was trash Ive seen him in person he's from Northern Virginia he's so frail but he's actually a pretty damn good QB my opinion

 

[yvespo3]

We need to sign Jared Allen, Tillman and Mack in free agency. Cut Davin Joseph, slide Zuttah over to guard and hope Nicks can be healthy enough to be on the field this season. We need another receiver...Underwood shouldn't be a starter. I'd like one in the first two rounds. Also need a legit starting tight end. Wright can catch the ball but he doesn't really do much in the blocking department.

If by some chance of luck Teddy or Manziel don't drop to us or we don't trade up for them then I want us to sign Vick.

, I pray to the Gods this doesn't happen and if Teddy or Manziel drop to us we trade back to get a 3rd round pick. I agree with the free agent pickups and getting Davin the **** outta here. I think getting Watkins will do wonders for Glennon who I actually like.

 

[wrightone86]

I would like them to give him at least one full season as starter with a full off season of training just to see.

I am not high on Vick anymore (ever since his last contract). Sure he wants to start, but it is almost guaranteed that he will not finish the season and he is not very accurate on to of that.

 

[wrightone86]

, I pray to the Gods this doesn't happen and if Teddy or Manziel drop to us we trade back to get a 3rd round pick. I agree with the free agent pickups and getting Davin the **** outta here. I think getting Watkins will do wonders for Glennon who I actually like.

I was just about to say, draft Watkins, sign Jared Allen and move Davin and hope Nicks comes back full strength.

 

[49ersaaron8]

I think Vicks best case scenario would be Houston weapons galore and a fast paced offense zone blocking scheme. As long as Arian is back and healthy I deem Houston to be a very improved team next year.

 

[buc em]

Watkins probably would be our most logical pick if he's there. V-Jax, Mike Will and Watkins would be real nice...I just don't know if Glennon has the ability to utilize all three guys like they should.

 

[fraij da 5 11]

I love the shower thing always. Biggest, toughest dudes sounding like such ******* is hilarious to me.

"What if he looks at me in the shower?"

They're probably the locker room jokers too puttin 1 leg up on the bench D&B swingin tryna get the next man to look at it so they can call em gay. 

 

 

[lyonbc1]

[/quote]

I love the shower thing always. Biggest, toughest dudes sounding like such ******* is hilarious to me.

"What if he looks at me in the shower?"

not to mention he was on a college football team with damn near 100 other guys and showered with them without any issue...so if dudes in the league are that ignorant than that's on them.

Plus I read that his teammates called him "sack fairy" so he seems to be able to handle jokes from other people and I'm sure he throws some out too...feel like some of these guys are flattering themselves a little too much every straight woman wouldn't want to jump on you I they saw you in a shower.

If college aged kids can accept it without major problems I would hope that older professionals would be able to as well.

 

[651akathepaul]

This is only a story initially. I hope it doesn't change his draft stock too much, because the kid is courageous. Come week 10 of next year, this will hardly be remembered. Similar to Manti...

The biggest concern isn't Sam, but the ignorant meatheads in the locker room who think being unaccepting of a very much real thing is funny or tolerable. Either way...They and others will get over it.

 

[buc em]

The Sack Fairy

 

[DeadsetAce]

the irony

 

[buc em]

Supposebly Ebron has put on a "significant amount" of weight in order to become a more capable blocker, but he may have lost some speed.

 

[joshuatree2192]

One thing he has on his side I am guessing is the 11.5 sacks, 19 tackles for loss, and SEC DPOY achievements. Especially since some consider it the "best conference" in college football.

Question...will his stock drop still if he goes out there and runs a 4.5 40 yard dash, 32" vert, and benches like 20+ reps of 225?

Missouri Defensive players in the NFL=Good Money

 

[scarsorscabs]

 

[h3]How will news that Michael Sam is gay affect his NFL draft stock?[/h3]

Spoiler: Warning: Spoiler!

The news that former Missouri defensive end Michael Sam is gay holds significant social and cultural ramifications. But from a pure football perspective, his decision to come out prior to the NFL Draft in May will make his path to the league daunting, eight NFL executives and coaches told SI.com.

In blunt terms, they project a significant drop in Sam's draft stock, a publicity circus and an NFL locker room culture not prepared to deal with an openly gay player. Sam, the SEC Defensive Player of the Year, was projected as a mid-to-late round draft pick prior to his announcement.

While none of the executives overtly condemned Sam's decision, their opinions illuminated an NFL culture where an openly gay player -- from the draft room to the locker room -- faces long odds and a lonely path.

The executives and coaches were granted anonymity by SI.com for their honesty and their answers were consistently unsparing.

"I don't think football is ready for it just yet," said an NFL player personnel assistant. "In the coming decade or two, it's going to be acceptable, but at this point in time it's still a man's man game. To call somebody a [gay slur] is still so commonplace. It'd chemically imbalance an NFL locker room and meeting room."

All the NFL personnel interviewed agreed that Sam's announcement will cause him to drop in the draft; he was projected between the third and seventh round prior to the announcement. The question will be how far he falls and if he gets chosen at all.

"I just know with this going on this is going to drop him down," said a veteran NFL scout. "There's no question about it. It's human nature. Do you want to be the team to quote-unquote 'break that barrier?'"

Before his announcement, Sam had already emerged as a divisive prospect. Some look at his SEC-best 11.5 sacks and 19 tackles for loss and see a high motor pass rusher who could have gone as high as the third round. Others see Sam, who is 6-foot-2 and 260 pounds, as undersized defensive end without a true position in the NFL. Of his 11.5 sacks, nine came in three games against what one scout called "garbage competition" -- Vanderbilt, Arkansas State and Florida. "His numbers are inflated," a scout said. "You've got to see through that."

One former NFL general manager described how Sam's future could play out in the draft room. He said when a team is getting in position to make a pick, there's typically a declaration in the draft room that they're nine slots from choosing and will pick from six different players, or five spots away and choose from three players.

If Sam is among that group of players, the potential distraction of his presence -- both in the media and the locker room -- could prevent him from being selected.

"That will break a tie against that player," he said. "Every time. Unless he's Superman. Why? Not that they're against gay people. It's more that some players are going to look at you upside down. Every Tom, **** and Harry in the media is going to show up, from Good Housekeeping  to the Today Show. A general manager is going to ask, 'Why are we going to do that to ourselves?'"

The former general manager said that it would take an NFL franchise with a strong owner, savvy general manager and veteran coach to make it work. He rattled off franchises like Pittsburgh, Green Bay, San Francisco, Baltimore and Indianapolis as destinations where that could happen. He said that a team with a rookie head coach would not be an ideal destination. "This plays better in Green Bay," he said, "that it does in New York."

Sam's announcement did not come as a surprise to most NFL teams. Sam's sexual orientation was considered an open secret in his college town of Columbia, Mo., and the assistant personnel man said he believed "90-percent of teams" had already known about that Sam was gay and had dropped him on their draft boards. He estimated that of the 32 NFL franchises, only two or three didn't know prior the news. He projected that it will impact Sam's draft status "quite a bit."

"You're going to have to have one confident general manager or head coach that is certainly entrenched in his position and established to draft a player like that," the assistant personnel director said. "It's one thing to have Chris Kluwe or Brendon Ayanbadejo, advocates for gay rights, on your team. It's another to have a current confirmed player."

Multiple NFL executives questioned the decision to come out now, as Sam will be the biggest story in football between now and the NFL Draft on May 8. The NFL combine from Feb. 22-25 will be a four-day referendum on Sam's professional future. And his place in the NFL Draft will be endlessly debated between now and May.

An NFL assistant coach called Sam's decision "not a smart move," as he said it "legitimately affects your potential earnings." It wasn't lost on the NFL executives that former NBA player Jason Collins, who came out last April in a Sports Illustrated  story, hasn't been signed by an NBA team this year.

"You shouldn't have to live your life in secrecy," the assistant coach said, "but do you really want to be the top of the conversation for everything without ever having played a down in this league?"

The assistant coach said that the decision to draft Sam will ultimately rest on the desire of a franchise to risk disrupting the dynamic of the locker room.

"There are guys in locker rooms that maturity-wise cannot handle it or deal with the thought of that," the assistant coach said. "There's nothing more sensitive than the heartbeat of the locker room. If you knowingly bring someone in there with that sexual orientation, how are the other guys going to deal with it? It's going to be a big distraction. That's the reality. It shouldn't be, but it will be."

These anonymous quotes are pathetic. 

 

[champcruthik]

Supposebly Ebron has put on a "significant amount" of weight in order to become a more capable blocker, but he may have lost some speed.

 

[osh kosh bosh]

Not going to lie, the side of me that loves anarchy hopes he goes undrafted.

 

[DeadsetAce]

probably posted in here, but heard his draft stock went from 79 to like 160 since the news came out. so dumb

 

[100027]

probably posted in here, but heard his draft stock went from 79 to like 160 since the news came out. so dumb

Next come the "millions in endorsements" these guys have been talking about 

 

[herbshuttles15]

I expect his draft stock to drop but I don't think he drops 81 spots