2016 MLB thread. THE CUBS HAVE BROKEN THE CURSE! Chicago Cubs are your 2016 World Series champions

[champcruthik]

The question is if Infante, Tanaka, Kuroda, Balfour is enough to win a tough division. Probably not.

 

[essential1]

Cano was not a part of the meeting with Seattle... His representatives were.

 

[abovelegit1]

Cano ain't going anywhere.

He goes to SEA, his numbers will suffer.

His numbers will suffer anywhere outside Yankee stadium

His home/road splits are basically negligible over the past 3 or 4 seasons.

Would Cano and his people be willing to wait on the Yankees till they find out what A-Rod's status is? I think that's the question. I imagine it'll take ~8/200 to sign him, and Seattle's money is sitting on the table.


Don't mind trading the O's trading Jim Johnson. Struggled last season, and paying a shaky relief pitcher $10m in arb isn't good business. That said, they need to make moves if they want to compete for anything.

 

[venom lyrix]

Name the likely destination for Shark. Baltimore makes sense for Gausman.

D-Backs want Cespedes potentially for Skaggs and Pollock.

Why would Beane trade Cespedes when he just got him and is building around him?

 

[venom lyrix]

should fit in just fine

Pierz is def a Boston-type of guy, good fit

 

[proshares]

Cano ain't going anywhere.

He goes to SEA, his numbers will suffer.

His numbers will suffer anywhere outside Yankee stadium

His home/road splits are basically negligible over the past 3 or 4 seasons.

Would Cano and his people be willing to wait on the Yankees till they find out what A-Rod's status is? I think that's the question. I imagine it'll take ~8/200 to sign him, and Seattle's money is sitting on the table.


Don't mind trading the O's trading Jim Johnson. Struggled last season, and paying a shaky relief pitcher $10m in arb isn't good business. That said, they need to make moves if they want to compete for anything.

I think if it's just a $25mm difference and that one year, the Yanks will cave and either give it to him or make it an option with a full NTC.

I think they're acting as if the suspension will be upheld. The only thing that'll work against em is this Tanaka posting and how it seems it'll work out.

 

[jumpmanfromdabay]

Name the likely destination for Shark. Baltimore makes sense for Gausman.

D-Backs want Cespedes potentially for Skaggs and Pollock.

Why would Beane trade Cespedes when he just got him and is building around him?

Because he was a .230 hitter last season

 

[lightweight champion]

That was Oakland's MO last year, hack away. It worked pretty well for them but you can't bring that gameplan against Verlander because it doesn't work. Bob Melvin has been great for the A's but the last two ALDS Game 5s I didn't see him make any adjustments to chase Verlander.

With that said, I wouldn't trade Cespedes.

 

[Johnny_Cakes]

That was Oakland's MO last year, hack away. It worked pretty well for them but you can't bring that gameplan against Verlander because it doesn't work. Bob Melvin has been great for the A's but the last two ALDS Game 5s I didn't see him make any adjustments to chase Verlander.

With that said, I wouldn't trade Cespedes.

Frankly, I don't think there was any significant adjustment he could make against Verlander with the roster he's got. They are who they are, all or nothing hitters who can draw walks on occasion. He has to find the hitters who can work around someone like Verlander with small ball.

 

[proshares]

Aoki traded to the Royals.

Mujica signs with the BoSox for two years.

 

[Ox.]

Hope Boston doesn't rush anything, I'm excited to see A.J come though.

 

[freddie black]

I like that trade for KC, they've quietly been putting together a contender.  Plug Aoki in CF--according to defensive runs saved he'd be capable of getting the job done--and leave the door open for Beltran to return to split time in RF with Cain.

Back end of the BoSox bullpen will be impossible to get a free pass against, they will make you swing the bat - Mujica, Uehara, Tazawa, and Badenhop were 1, 3, 7, and 12 in walk rate among qualified RP last season.  They got him at a steal of a price, too, and with all those top arms in the pen I would bet against him experiencing another late season meltdown.

 

[venom lyrix]

ESPN Deportes article saying Cano is in Seattle and that the team is willing to go 10 years $230 mil

 

[proshares]

I like that trade for KC, they've quietly been putting together a contender.  Plug Aoki in CF--according to defensive runs saved he'd be capable of getting the job done--and leave the door open for Beltran to return to split time in RF with Cain.

Back end of the BoSox bullpen will be impossible to get a free pass against, they will make you swing the bat - Mujica, Uehara, Tazawa, and Badenhop were 1, 3, 7, and 12 in walk rate among qualified RP last season.  They got him at a steal of a price, too, and with all those top arms in the pen I would bet against him experiencing another late season meltdown.

I'm just stunned they traded him for so little.

Japanese pitcher Masahiro Tanaka's baseball future was thrown into flux Thursday when the president of the Tohoku Rakuten Golden Eagles told a newspaper that the team might not make the prized starter available to major league teams as a free agent this winter.

Yozo Tachibana told Sponichi that the Golden Eagles might refrain from making Tanaka available through the posting process. Under a proposed system, major league teams would submit maximum bids of $20 million for rights to negotiate with Tanaka, and Tanaka would be free to sign with the club of his choosing among those that meet the threshold.

Previously, major league teams would submit bids and the club with the highest offer would receive exclusive rights to negotiate with the player.

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Masahiro Tanaka, who is 99-35 in seven seasons in Japan, went 24-0 with a 1.27 ERA this year.
"We have an obligation to explain to our stakeholders whether it's fair," Tachibana reportedly told Sponichi. He added that if Rakuten shareholders do not think the proposed rules are fair, "There's a possibility we won't take the next step."

Tanaka, 25, is a prime target for multiple big league clubs that hope he can have an impact similar to the one Yu Darvish has had with Texas. When Darvish came to the U.S. in January 2012, the Rangers gave him a six-year, $60 million contract on top of the $51.7 million posting fee they paid to his former club, the Nippon Ham Fighters. Darvish led the American League with 277 strikeouts this past season and finished second to Detroit's Max Scherzer in Cy Young Award balloting.

Tanaka is 99-35 with a 2.30 ERA in seven seasons with Rakuten. The New York Yankees, Los Angeles Dodgers, Chicago Cubs, Arizona Diamondbacks and Los Angeles Angels are among the clubs expected to have interest in him.

The proposed rules would result in a significantly lower payout to the posting club -- in this case, Rakuten -- while giving Tanaka a wider range of teams in the bidding. According to reports out of Japan, 11 of Nippon Baseball's 12 teams agreed to the $20 million maximum fee and the proposed system, while Rakuten was the dissenter.

Changes to the posting system have been an ongoing topic of discussion between MLB and Nippon Baseball, with the respective players unions in Japan and the U.S. also having significant input in the process. Last week, officials from Nippon Baseball traveled to New York for conversations with MLB senior vice presidents Dan Halem and Kim Ng, who are overseeing talks on behalf of MLB.

Officials from MLB and its players' association are hoping to get Tanaka's situation resolved as quickly as possible, because his status could have an impact on Matt Garza, Ervin Santana, Ubaldo Jimenez and other top free agents who might have to wait in line to see how the market for their services shakes out.

If Rakuten ultimately decides to make Tanaka available through the posting process, he will have a 30-day window to negotiate a deal with a major league club.

 

[rillo561]

Peace!

 

[Hahahaha]

ESPN Deportes article saying Cano is in Seattle and that the team is willing to go 10 years $230 mil

I hope we don't match that. Hopefully we hit 200 and say that's it. You can go to Seattle and disappear from the MLB

 

[proshares]

If he goes to Seattle, they're getting Kemp or Price. This won't be their last move.

 

[fenixconnexion.]

If the Blue Jays can snag David Price I'll be hella happy

 

[madj55]

Just looked at the Mariners depth chart...yikes. Cano only cares about the money if he goes there.

 

[essential1]

@Ken_Rosenthal 16m

Sources: Cano asked #Mariner for 240/10. M's made offer, but not over 200. Cano on plane to Seattle. Meeting with club officials later today

 

[kal-el-8]

Chances dodgers go after price and tanaka?

 

[Hahahaha]

Just looked at the Mariners depth chart...yikes. Cano only cares about the money if he goes there.

It's a lot of money, can't knock it. He's hoping this raises the Yankees' offer. 230, I'm willing to say goodbye to my favorite player

 

[DeadsetAce]

M's offer is nothing worth going to SEA for if Rosenthal is right. no way the yanks don't bring him back if kenny boy is right

 

[Hahahaha]

M's offer is nothing worth going to SEA for if Rosenthal is right. no way the yanks don't bring him back if kenny boy is right

If we offer 195 and they offer 230....is that enough? That's a lot of damn money

 

[DeadsetAce]

^ for sure, that's a lot. but Ken is saying the M's offer isn't more than $200. Cano has to pick NY in the case, even if their offer is 195 or even as low as $190 i would think