2017 NBA FINALS THREAD. PART III

[junglejim]

Bro wtf are you saying? Do you realize the Cavs play best when those guys are on the floor and not TT?

The Cavs play best when D.Will is out there?  You are ******* delusional.

 

[D StaXX]

**** that, i don't want to see the cavs warriors next year again.

We don't have a choice

 

[freeze]

Steph averaging:

29ppg
10rpg
9apg

In the finals. Meanwhile....Russ is....nvm

are we sure this aint mvp? i mean i know kd making the big plays..but curry doing the most.

 

[MVP]

Lets be honest really tho... Is the Cavs roster really an issue against any other opponents not named the Warriors?.... I mean were comparing a once in a life time team here...

Lol is somebody else going to be there in the Finals when the Cavs get back next year?

 

[ballinsam23]

Bro wtf are you saying? Do you realize the Cavs play best when those guys are on the floor and not TT?

The Cavs play best when D.Will is out there?  You are ******* delusional.

And you're a ******* idiot to not clearly see that when their best defensive big and rebounder is not on the floor that's when they can keep up with the Warriors. Sub TT in and the Warriors automatically score on every ******* possession while the Cavs play like ****.

Cavs stayed in the game with Korver playing that many minutes and TT was benched. They had their biggest lead of the series when their worse defensive players were on the floor.

 

[P C H]

Like I said, i'm in the minority but the Cavs not being able to guard is a huge issue. The Warriors are the Warriors, but you can't give up basically 3 straight 70 pt first halfs and expect to win.

Defense is a huge issue with the Cavs and if LBJ isn't going supernova in the playoffs the gap between the cavs and the east would be smaller. It's something I'll personally be paying attention to next season and if LBJ isn't playing at Supernova levels, they won't get out of the east IMO

 

[bayarea23]

And you're a ******* idiot to not clearly see that when they're best defensive big and rebounder is not on the floor that's when they can keep up with the Warriors. Sub TT in and the Warriors automatically score on every ******* possession while the Cavs play like ****.

Cavs stayed in the game with Dwill and Korver playing that many minutes and TT was benched. They had their biggest lead of the series when their worse defensive players were on the floor.

Dwill is a good 3rd ball handler for them... He just got to make some shots... Look like the stage is getting to him.

 

[MVP]

are we sure this aint mvp? i mean i know kd making the big plays..but curry doing the most.

KD is at 34/10/6 on better splits + is doing it on the other end.

Looking forward to them battling it out against each other in Game 4.

 

[junglejim]

And you're a ******* idiot to not clearly see that when they're best defensive big and rebounder is not on the floor that's when they can keep up with the Warriors. Sub TT in and the Warriors automatically score on every ******* possession while the Cavs play like ****.

Cavs stayed in the game when Korver playing that many minutes and TT was benched. They had their biggest lead of the series when their worse defensive players were on the floor.

So you are legit saying that the key for the Cavs right now is to play D.WIll instead of TT?  Like this is a real comment?  

Because if you watched the ******* game last night, Dwill played 4 minutes and in 2 of those minutes the Warriors went on a 10-0 run.  Like wth are you ******* watching

Let me ask you this.  Why are the knicks so bad right now?  They have pretty solid offensive players, why cant they make the playoffs?

And then answer me this, when is the last time a team outside of the top 10 in defensive efficiency has won a championship?

 

[antidope]

Like I said, i'm in the minority but the Cavs not being able to guard is a huge issue. The Warriors are the Warriors, but you can't give up basically 3 straight 70 pt first halfs and expect to win.

Defense is a huge issue with the Cavs and if LBJ isn't going supernova in the playoffs the gap between the cavs and the east would be smaller. It's something I'll personally be paying attention to next season and if LBJ isn't playing at Supernova levels, they won't get out of the east IMO

Which is why this constant benching of TT makes no sense to me.

 

[ballinsam23]

I think it's hard for some of you to grasp that you cannot guard this team. Look what the Warriors did to a top defensive/rebounding team in the Jazz.

idc if your lineup consisted of CP3-Tony Allen-Kawhi-Gobert the Warriors would still blow you out.

 

[NickFolarin]

Confession of LeBron: 'I'm drained right now' after another Finals loss to Warriors. @ShamsCharania on @TheVertical.

This Y'all GOAT?

 

[junglejim]

I think it's hard for some of you to grasp that you cannot guard this team. Look what the Warriors did to a top defensive/rebounding team in the Jazz.

idc if your lineup consisted of CP3-Tony Allen-Kawhi-Gobert the Warriors would still blow you out.

You dont have to completely lock them down, you just have to make it harder on them.  Taking 4 turds on defense isnt going to win a championship.

When is the last time a team outside of the top 10 in defensive efficiency won a championship?

 

[bronconation24]

please take all knicks talk to the offseason thread please

 

[1smartalec]

You need defense and offense. Simple arithmetic.

 

[flyerthandelta]

And you're a ******* idiot to not clearly see that when they're best defensive big and rebounder is not on the floor that's when they can keep up with the Warriors. Sub TT in and the Warriors automatically score on every ******* possession while the Cavs play like ****.


Cavs stayed in the game when Korver playing that many minutes and TT was benched. They had their biggest lead of the series when their worse defensive players were on the floor.

So you are legit saying that the key for the Cavs right now is to play D.WIll instead of TT?  Like this is a real comment?  

Because if you watched the ******* game last night, the Dwill played 4 minutes and in 2 of those minutes the Warriors went on a 10-0 run.  Like wth are you ******* watching

Let me ask you this.  Why are the knicks so bad right now?  They have pretty solid offensive players, why cant they make the playoffs?

And then answer me this, when is the last time a team outside of the top 10 in defensive efficiency has won a championship?

I dont think he realizes Dwill hasnt scored a bucket since May 25th

 

[everysingletime]

TT is not contributing much of anything. He isn't even rebounding. Ideally you want as many two way players as possible to compete with the warriors. Ok maybe Korver don't exactly fit the two way bill but he is a no brainer over TT right now because at least spread the floor

 

[P C H]

I think it's hard for some of you to grasp that you cannot guard this team. Look what the Warriors did to a top defensive/rebounding team in the Jazz.

idc if your lineup consisted of CP3-Tony Allen-Kawhi-Gobert the Warriors would still blow you out.

Yeah you don't get it.

The Warriors are the warriors. You probably won't win.

But you can't win being this bad on defense. You can't be AWFUL defensively and expect to come close to winning.

Hell the Cavs again would have trouble beating quite a few western conference teams in a playoff series with this kind of defense, forget the warriors.

 

[Clyde Frog]

Hypothetically what if LeBron went to New Orleans with Cousins and AD and just went total opposite of Warriors with big men?

 

[ballinsam23]

And you're a ******* idiot to not clearly see that when they're best defensive big and rebounder is not on the floor that's when they can keep up with the Warriors. Sub TT in and the Warriors automatically score on every ******* possession while the Cavs play like ****.


Cavs stayed in the game when Korver playing that many minutes and TT was benched. They had their biggest lead of the series when their worse defensive players were on the floor.

So you are legit saying that the key for the Cavs right now is to play D.WIll instead of TT?  Like this is a real comment?  

Because if you watched the ******* game last night, the Dwill played 4 minutes and in 2 of those minutes the Warriors went on a 10-0 run.  Like wth are you ******* watching

Let me ask you this.  Why are the knicks so bad right now?  They have pretty solid offensive players, why cant they make the playoffs?

And then answer me this, when is the last time a team outside of the top 10 in defensive efficiency has won a championship?

Where did i mention Dwill there? Korver played 24 min last night? What defense did he provide? The Knicks are trash because they have zero leadership, run an old *** system, and have plenty of internal problems. Defense and offense are equally a problem since 99% of the time we dont know wtf we're doing.

Yes trust me I preach defense and rebounding wins championships. But i've seen enough of this Warriors team to know that thats not how you beat this specific team. When was the last time a top 10 offensive team didnt win a championship? You need a bit of both. But against this Warriors team, arguably the best team ever, you gotta match that fire power.

 

[1smartalec]

Hypothetically what if LeBron went to New Orleans with Cousins and AD and just went total opposite of Warriors with big men?

No. Cousins is a detriment to chemistry. Wouldn't touch that with a 10ft pole.

 

[squatchnt]

And you're a ******* idiot to not clearly see that when they're best defensive big and rebounder is not on the floor that's when they can keep up with the Warriors. Sub TT in and the Warriors automatically score on every ******* possession while the Cavs play like ****.


Cavs stayed in the game when Korver playing that many minutes and TT was benched. They had their biggest lead of the series when their worse defensive players were on the floor.

And then answer me this, when is the last time a team outside of the top 10 in defensive efficiency has won a championship?

last year

 

[junglejim]

I dont think he realizes Dwill hasnt scored a bucket since May 25th

obviously not.  He said the cavs were at their best last night when Dwill and Frye were in.  Dwill played 4 minutes and the Warriors went on a 10-0 run.  Frye didnt even ******* play last night.  0 minutes......

 

[1smartalec]

Yes trust me I preach defense and rebounding wins championships. But i've seen enough of this Warriors team to know that thats not how you beat this specific team. When was the last time a top 10 offensive team didnt win a championship? You need a bit of both. But against this Warriors team, arguably the best team ever, you gotta match that fire power.

Based on playoff performances this year alone, the Rockets probably could have matched a fraction or some of that fire power of GSW, they were torchin' SA from behind the arc. But to that same extent, that's exactly why they didn't make past the Spurs. SA plays way better defense.

 

[captaintuxable]

The Warriors have arguably the top 3 offensive players in the game though. How do you match that. KD, Steph and Klay are liable at any moment to go off for a 100. Who else is that potent offensively?