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It makes perfect sense. Kaepernick has loads of talent, he just doesn't know how to play quarterback.
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It makes perfect sense. Kaepernick has loads of talent, he just doesn't know how to play quarterback.
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I think that's an excuse they always use for ineffective running quarterbacks.
He knows how to play quarterback he just not very effective now.
He knows how to play quarterback he just not very effective now.
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and those guys do any better than he can at being a "QB"?
u can make that arguement with alot of QBs...but not with that list
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I didn't read the list. I just wanted to point out that you can be talented and not good.
Ichiro could have hit a HR at any time, if he really wanted to...he just didn't.
Ichiro could have hit a HR at any time, if he really wanted to...he just didn't.
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Yes those stats last year sure showed Kaep doesn't know how to be a QB 
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You know who was a talented QB, but wasn't essentially "good"? Michael Vick in his Falcon years.
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Yes those stats last year sure showed Kaep doesn't know how to be a QB
Weak. Stats? On a losing team?
You're not ready, man. SF's whole offensive philosophy in his heydey of having to cut the field in half because he couldn't read an entire defense proves what then?
Too bad you weren't around when I extensively called out his demise before it happened because of a plethora of reasons. My haters went silent reallll quick. Like I said, you ain't ready with that lame response.
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I'd take Kaep as a backup over a lot alternatives, but he's not a starter. Really, his main effectiveness as a backup is to change up pace/style, cause otherwise, defenses catch on quick and once they adjust to his speed...it's a wrap.
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Yes, Kaep was so bad at reading defenses and lacked situational awareness that they decided to keep Popgun and not sign Kaep later to a huge contract. Oh wait, that didn't ****** happen.
Dude was better than Sammy B and Teddy ever was. Prove me wrong if u think they were better than Kaep in his heydey.
Dude was better than Sammy B and Teddy ever was. Prove me wrong if u think they were better than Kaep in his heydey.
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He's clearly smart enough to dismantle your system
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Sam and Teddy have nothing to do with my opinions on Kaepernick. That's how I know you're getting upset.
Your first point is also irrelevant to how it actually all panned out. The bet the organization made on Kaepernick paid short-term, but long-term it didn't come close to being what they hoped. Alex Smith's ineptitude also has nothing to do with Kaep not knowing how to play quarterback.
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Yes, that leaky faucet of a OL, no Frank Gore, and having the likes of Kerley and Torrey Smith won't help any QB. Yet somehow he produced pretty well given the circumstances last season. Give the man some weapons, and he would have done even better.
All the owners have come out to say that they won't sign him because of his antics last season, not because of his play obviously.
If you're saying he's not getting signed because of football reasons, I don't believe you one bit.
All the owners have come out to say that they won't sign him because of his antics last season, not because of his play obviously.
If you're saying he's not getting signed because of football reasons, I don't believe you one bit.
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1. His downfall started well before all that **** and if that's your metric then yes, Sam Bradford is a better quarterback because the numbers he put it up with a worse offensive line, no AP and no time whatsoever in the system prior to having a career year and setting the NFL record for completion percentage then yeah...you should re-assess your angle.
2. Is that why you're so heated? I don't know the motivation behind why all teams won't sign him, but if Michael Vick could get a job after what he did and after not being in the league a couple of years, then I'm sure someone would take a chance him if he was as great as you think he is. Political motives aside, Kaepernick is also not getting signed because the guy can't play quarterback on a level consistent enough that's worth what he probably wants; an opportunity to start.
3. At no point during my initial statements did I ever say why or why not he wasn't getting signed. My message was simple: Kaepernick does not know how to play quarterback. Everything else is **** you're raging about on your own accord and has nothing to do with my discussion with you.
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besides Jets fans, would anyone be thrilled to have Kaep as their QB leading their offense (either as starter or a backup who now has to play)?
i'm not asking in relation to whether or not he should be signed, whether he's better than X, or whatever. just straight up. would anyone be happy to have him as their QB going under center on a Sunday?
i'm not asking in relation to whether or not he should be signed, whether he's better than X, or whatever. just straight up. would anyone be happy to have him as their QB going under center on a Sunday?
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Because I hear the same narrative from why people say "Kaep isn't being signed because he's not a good enough QB"
You can argue he's not an elite QB, or even top 15 currently. But is he worse than the likes of Tom Savage, Brock Osweiler, Mike Glennon, Cody Kessler, etc.? Hell no he ain't worse and he can start on those teams.
You can argue he's not an elite QB, or even top 15 currently. But is he worse than the likes of Tom Savage, Brock Osweiler, Mike Glennon, Cody Kessler, etc.? Hell no he ain't worse and he can start on those teams.
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I would be happy to have Kaep as a insurance policy because our system would fit his play. Obviously our owner wouldn't allow us to sign him though.
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He's not worse. Again, my statement was clear, he is not a good quarterback. Irrespective of who you compare him too, this doesn't change. The problem is that you think I'm part of a narrative, but I've been doing this for years and it was all X's and O's. The stuff you're talking about is an assumption and has nothing to do with me. Next time, take the time to read a post individually before lumping it in with all the ********.
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I'd rather see what we have in Hackenberg/Petty than bring in Kaepernick tbh
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that's key. how many teams fit his style? only a few IMO. if we still had matt cassel as our backup in NE, it would still make ZERO sense to bring in Kaep. cause there is no way he's gonna lead the NE offense to success. (yes, i know, system this and that, and i could lead is to the AFC championship. nyuk nyuk)
not to mention playing in the snow. 4 yards won't cut it
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You have a third string QB that has a similar play style of Kaep. Just saying.
that's key. how many teams fit his style? only a few IMO. if we still had matt cassel as our backup in NE, it would still make ZERO sense to bring in Kaep. cause there is no way he's gonna lead the NE offense to success. (yes, i know, system this and that, and i could lead is to the AFC championship. nyuk nyuk)
not to mention playing in the snow. 4 yards won't cut it
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Which is half the issue. Teams aren't going to want to change their style of play for a backup quarterback. And that's just the thing, Kaep can't play in any other system. Other Q's have to adapt to the offensive scheme, but you can't do that with Kaep because he just can't do it! Not consistently and not long-term.
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You have a third string QB that has a similar play style of Kaep. Just saying.
that's key. how many teams fit his style? only a few IMO. if we still had matt cassel as our backup in NE, it would still make ZERO sense to bring in Kaep. cause there is no way he's gonna lead the NE offense to success. (yes, i know, system this and that, and i could lead is to the AFC championship. nyuk nyuk)
not to mention playing in the snow. 4 yards won't cut it
Third string quarterbacks are strictly developmental and they aren't expected to play...You'd be right if Kaep wasn't already a finished product, but I guess if you're not comparing Kaep to third string caliber players then I'm not sure what your point is.
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You have a third string QB that has a similar play style of Kaep. Just saying.
that's key. how many teams fit his style? only a few IMO. if we still had matt cassel as our backup in NE, it would still make ZERO sense to bring in Kaep. cause there is no way he's gonna lead the NE offense to success. (yes, i know, system this and that, and i could lead is to the AFC championship. nyuk nyuk)
not to mention playing in the snow. 4 yards won't cut it
who lost 27-0 to the bills....the bills. that QB also doesn't even dress on gameday.
still love him doe
and like 651 alluded to, he's expected to develop more into what jimmy is. a guy who is a pass first QB who can and only takes off if there's nothing there and it makes sense to do so. none of this 1 or 2 read and run bs
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