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I wouldn't mind Seth at all
2018/19 Philadelphia 76ers Thread: The Process Continues
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Rumors say Delly is on the radar too lol
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We have Brett Brown as our coach and Simmons as our new franchise player...every Australian will probably be on our radar
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Please no
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Seems like a lot of **** being thrown at the wall right now for clicks...Ill just wait and see what happens..I got faith in Colangelo not to **** this up..
CrownRoyalDaddy
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Clarkson, Barnes, Crabbe...any combo of the 3 and id be happy
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Looking at some of these contact..I'm glad we haven't overpaid for someone yet..I'm coming around on Barnes but definitely not for the max..
I know it's early and they would never just come out and say it..but it looks like the lakers are tanking or in better words want to build thru the draft...They want that pick this year..
I know it's early and they would never just come out and say it..but it looks like the lakers are tanking or in better words want to build thru the draft...They want that pick this year..
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Am i the only one who would LOVE to have Crawford on this team? He provides need, veteran leadership & he can be an exciting player at times too
If we can land him, Crabbe & a good shooting point guard then this off season will be a success to me
If we can land him, Crabbe & a good shooting point guard then this off season will be a success to me
Yeah, but I don't know why he would leave the clippers unless you overpay for him
I know people don't like him but I want Austin rivers as well. He's not a great shooter but he should be able to hit an open shot and he can share time with Simmons running the point. I also like Seth curry because he's dirt cheap and you don't have to be locked to him forever
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Ive NEVER liked Austin Rivers. He just seems annoying lol. Hes an ok player but he makes some dumb moves sometimes. That would be like signing a lower ego crazed Dion
I wouldnt mind getting Seth but i kinda want someone like Patty Mills or Knight
I have a horrible feeling were gonna end up with Brandon Jennings instead tho :x
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I don't mind getting Rivers either seeing he will be a filler for this year. I do agree with the Ish Smith comment thinking we should have kept him, especially for that price. He provided good leadership, was a great teammate and is a very solid backup PG.
Something tells me we will be looking at Jerret Jack for better or worse.
The beauty of us improving this year is that as long as the Kings suck, we have a very decent chance at another top 5 pick. I just hope the Cuz explodes, demands a trade and leave Sacromento in a rut so that we land the top pick without suffering another miserable season.
Something tells me we will be looking at Jerret Jack for better or worse.
The beauty of us improving this year is that as long as the Kings suck, we have a very decent chance at another top 5 pick. I just hope the Cuz explodes, demands a trade and leave Sacromento in a rut so that we land the top pick without suffering another miserable season.
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On another note: Update Scouting Report on Saric
If you didn’t get to watch Dario Saric play for the Croatian National Team at the junior level or for Cibona Zagreb, you won’t understand what the interest behind the six-foot-10 combo forward is all about.
In his two-season stint with Anadolu Efes, the 22-year-old Croatian was utilized almost entirely as a pure weak-side threat, save for the times he was shifted to center in emergency situations.
Head coach Dusan Ivkovic had a point guard in Thomas Huertel with limited ability to work off the ball and who was also a massive liability on defense. So in order to maximize him, Ivkovic built an offense where Heurtel monopolized shot creation responsibilities and left little room for more promising but less developed options like Saric, Cedi Osman, Elijah Johnson, Derrick Brown and Furkan Korkmaz to stretch their wings.
As a consequence, it’s unclear how much Saric’s ball handling and passing developed over the last two seasons, whether the shot creation from the perimeter against a set defense he showed with Cibona at the Adriatic League level could be sustained against a higher level of competition.
Passing
Saric was not given much opportunity to explore his best skill last season.
Previously, he had shown the ability to handle in pick-and-roll and pass out of the dribble penetration, showcasing the sort of anticipation skill that suggests Saric could also be an option as a screener as well, shorting his rolls and assisting spot-up shooters beyond the three-point arc or big men at the dunker spot.
But he was not utilized those ways at Efes. And he was also rarely relied on to help facilitate offense from the elbows.
Where Saric mostly flashed his passing in his stay in Turkey was out of the low post against switches. He has not shown to be a particularly killer scorer on those instances but most opponents felt more comfortable doubling him anyway. Saric often used his escape dribble with a lot of calm and darted cross-court passes to weak-side shooters on the opposite end of the floor, as his six-foot-10 height helps him see over the defense in traffic.
In his first season at Efes, Saric had proven himself able to attack closeouts with enough burst to draw help defense and was also more comfortable grabbing a defensive rebound and leading the break. But towards the end of his second season, he didn’t show as much explosiveness to blow by those closeouts as well, despite the fact he played in a well-spaced four-out offense with plenty of capable shooters around him, and he was either not as confident or drilled by his coach into no longer playing in transition.
As a consequence of those issues, Saric’s assist rate declined from 18% in 2014-2015 to just 10% in 2015-2016 – according to our stats database.
Scoring
Underutilizing his ability to help create for others is frustrating because Saric is at best a so-so scorer at this point of his development.
His most productive asset is his catch-and-shoot three-point shot but he’s only proven capable to hit open shots with his feet set and no one rushing his release. Saric converted 40% of his 172 three-point shots last season but only at a pace of 4.8 attempts per 40 minutes, as he was not put in the pick-and-pop or asked to come off screens at all.
But the area Saric excels best is as a cutter, showcasing excellent feel for identifying gaps in the defense and making himself available around the rim.
As a shot creator out of straight isolations, he is a mixed bag. Saric has shown in the past a nice handle for someone his size to go side-to-side but can’t stop-and-start in a pinch and doesn’t have a lot quickness to shift directions and shake opponents with crossovers. His first step is not particularly explosive among pros but he has long strides on face-up drivers out of the mid-post and is able to maintain his balance through contact against players of a similar physical profile.
As a scorer, Saric has not shown much burst to attack length at the rim with explosiveness but has shown nice touch on non-dunk finishes and his 223-pound frame invites contact, leading to a very appealing 38% free throw rate a couple of years ago, though it declined to 29% last season.
He remains a lousy pull-up shooter, too rigid elevating off the bounce.
Saric did not screen in the pick-and-roll much but when he did, he put to use that ability to know the right spots to roll towards. Saric has soft hands to catch the ball on the move but has not flashed much potential to play above the rim as a target for lobs. He is a threat to pursue the ball on the offensive glass when he’s well positioned but lacks length to rebound outside of his area and also explosiveness converting these second chances into immediate putbacks.
Defense
Much like his scoring, Saric’s defense is also average at best.
He plays with good effort in individual defense, able to bend low to the ground to get in a stance. Saric has proven capable of holding his own on straight line drives by pure wings like Elliot Williams and Mindaugas Kuzminskas – two players that could be considered NBA-caliber. Defending Williams in the game against Panathinaikos on a dribble drive out of a closeout attack, Saric even flashed the ability to elevate out of the two feet in a pinch to block his shot at the rim.
But he has not proven capable of switching into smaller, shiftier guards on an island, lacking the lateral quickness to stay in front in isolation when they shake him side-to-side or navigate over ball screens and recover in time to contest shots or shut down passing lanes as a trailer.
Defending as a big, Saric struggles to hold his ground in the post against bulkier power forward types and lacks length to contest outside shots effectively when he is closing out to stretch fours. As a help-defender, Saric is attentive to his rotation responsibilities but can’t play above the rim as a shot blocker – picking up just 51 blocks in 126 appearances over the last two seasons.
His most productive asset on that end is his rebounding, as he’s proven attentive to his box out responsibilities and pursues the ball off the rim with nice energy – collecting almost 23% of opponents’ misses when he was on the floor last season.
In his two-season stint with Anadolu Efes, the 22-year-old Croatian was utilized almost entirely as a pure weak-side threat, save for the times he was shifted to center in emergency situations.
Head coach Dusan Ivkovic had a point guard in Thomas Huertel with limited ability to work off the ball and who was also a massive liability on defense. So in order to maximize him, Ivkovic built an offense where Heurtel monopolized shot creation responsibilities and left little room for more promising but less developed options like Saric, Cedi Osman, Elijah Johnson, Derrick Brown and Furkan Korkmaz to stretch their wings.
As a consequence, it’s unclear how much Saric’s ball handling and passing developed over the last two seasons, whether the shot creation from the perimeter against a set defense he showed with Cibona at the Adriatic League level could be sustained against a higher level of competition.
Passing
Saric was not given much opportunity to explore his best skill last season.
Previously, he had shown the ability to handle in pick-and-roll and pass out of the dribble penetration, showcasing the sort of anticipation skill that suggests Saric could also be an option as a screener as well, shorting his rolls and assisting spot-up shooters beyond the three-point arc or big men at the dunker spot.
But he was not utilized those ways at Efes. And he was also rarely relied on to help facilitate offense from the elbows.
Where Saric mostly flashed his passing in his stay in Turkey was out of the low post against switches. He has not shown to be a particularly killer scorer on those instances but most opponents felt more comfortable doubling him anyway. Saric often used his escape dribble with a lot of calm and darted cross-court passes to weak-side shooters on the opposite end of the floor, as his six-foot-10 height helps him see over the defense in traffic.
In his first season at Efes, Saric had proven himself able to attack closeouts with enough burst to draw help defense and was also more comfortable grabbing a defensive rebound and leading the break. But towards the end of his second season, he didn’t show as much explosiveness to blow by those closeouts as well, despite the fact he played in a well-spaced four-out offense with plenty of capable shooters around him, and he was either not as confident or drilled by his coach into no longer playing in transition.
As a consequence of those issues, Saric’s assist rate declined from 18% in 2014-2015 to just 10% in 2015-2016 – according to our stats database.
Scoring
Underutilizing his ability to help create for others is frustrating because Saric is at best a so-so scorer at this point of his development.
His most productive asset is his catch-and-shoot three-point shot but he’s only proven capable to hit open shots with his feet set and no one rushing his release. Saric converted 40% of his 172 three-point shots last season but only at a pace of 4.8 attempts per 40 minutes, as he was not put in the pick-and-pop or asked to come off screens at all.
But the area Saric excels best is as a cutter, showcasing excellent feel for identifying gaps in the defense and making himself available around the rim.
As a shot creator out of straight isolations, he is a mixed bag. Saric has shown in the past a nice handle for someone his size to go side-to-side but can’t stop-and-start in a pinch and doesn’t have a lot quickness to shift directions and shake opponents with crossovers. His first step is not particularly explosive among pros but he has long strides on face-up drivers out of the mid-post and is able to maintain his balance through contact against players of a similar physical profile.
As a scorer, Saric has not shown much burst to attack length at the rim with explosiveness but has shown nice touch on non-dunk finishes and his 223-pound frame invites contact, leading to a very appealing 38% free throw rate a couple of years ago, though it declined to 29% last season.
He remains a lousy pull-up shooter, too rigid elevating off the bounce.
Saric did not screen in the pick-and-roll much but when he did, he put to use that ability to know the right spots to roll towards. Saric has soft hands to catch the ball on the move but has not flashed much potential to play above the rim as a target for lobs. He is a threat to pursue the ball on the offensive glass when he’s well positioned but lacks length to rebound outside of his area and also explosiveness converting these second chances into immediate putbacks.
Defense
Much like his scoring, Saric’s defense is also average at best.
He plays with good effort in individual defense, able to bend low to the ground to get in a stance. Saric has proven capable of holding his own on straight line drives by pure wings like Elliot Williams and Mindaugas Kuzminskas – two players that could be considered NBA-caliber. Defending Williams in the game against Panathinaikos on a dribble drive out of a closeout attack, Saric even flashed the ability to elevate out of the two feet in a pinch to block his shot at the rim.
But he has not proven capable of switching into smaller, shiftier guards on an island, lacking the lateral quickness to stay in front in isolation when they shake him side-to-side or navigate over ball screens and recover in time to contest shots or shut down passing lanes as a trailer.
Defending as a big, Saric struggles to hold his ground in the post against bulkier power forward types and lacks length to contest outside shots effectively when he is closing out to stretch fours. As a help-defender, Saric is attentive to his rotation responsibilities but can’t play above the rim as a shot blocker – picking up just 51 blocks in 126 appearances over the last two seasons.
His most productive asset on that end is his rebounding, as he’s proven attentive to his box out responsibilities and pursues the ball off the rim with nice energy – collecting almost 23% of opponents’ misses when he was on the floor last season.
Moheezy
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Ive NEVER liked Austin Rivers. He just seems annoying lol. Hes an ok player but he makes some dumb moves sometimes. That would be like signing a lower ego crazed Dion
I wouldnt mind getting Seth but i kinda want someone like Patty Mills or Knight
I have a horrible feeling were gonna end up with Brandon Jennings instead tho :x
Brandon Jennings was actually playing decent basketball before tearing his achilles and Jackson coming over. I actually wouldn't mind seeing him either. My expectations are low for those one year rentals.
If Colangelo can work his magic and trade Oak for Knight and Chriss, that would be ideal.
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Jennings was playing good before he got hurt but hes looked kinda weak since. I wouldnt want Jack either especially with him coming off a season ending injury but he would def be a rental too
At this point ANYONE would be better than TJ & Kendall Marshall
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:x at the thought of TG & Kendall starting off the season.
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Jerryd Bayless to start off our free agency
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I like it...very good stop-gap PG option to pair with Simmons for the time being. Even if we end up trading Okafor or Noel for our real starter he's a great backup and we didn't overpay at all. He was top 3 in the league in 3 point percentage off catch and shoot situations.
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Love the Bayless move..it's exactly what we needed..A combo gaurd who can play off the ball and hit the open Three..but can also handle when needed..also didn't know he was only 27..seem like he been in the league forever..I actually liked him a lot coming of Arizona...lol.
Bayless is a solid pick up. Now you either have to max Barnes or go after Krabbe
Bayless
SG ?
Simmons
Ohkafor
Noel
Embiid, Saric, Timothe, Covington off the bench. We still need another back up pg
Your gonna be horrid on defense with that squad but at least it's better than last year
Bayless
SG ?
Simmons
Ohkafor
Noel
Embiid, Saric, Timothe, Covington off the bench. We still need another back up pg
Your gonna be horrid on defense with that squad but at least it's better than last year
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Simmons will be starting at PF and there is no way Okafor and Noel are both on the team. We'll see what we get in a trade for one of them but it'll probably be either a starting PG or SG. And I think we sign one of Barnes or Crabbe.
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Another thing that might come from this crazy Free agent period is..teams may want an Oakafor a little more now because you can control him for a couple more years on a great pay scale because of his rookie contract.
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A lot of these contracts are RIDICULOUS. Im glad the sixers Havent participated. Bayless is a steal with his contract compared to these other guys and he fits in perfectly.
There ain't nothing out there to trade for. The only thing I'd settle for trading are players at the draft next year
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I mean regardless of what you think we aren't going to have Noel, Okafor or Embiid as our third string center....let alone the fact that we've already seen that Noel and Okafor can't play together and our #1 pick is a stretch 4.
