2021 NBA OFFSEASON THREAD: Media Day...SHENANIGANS

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Well, we're all going to have our opinions. I'm not mad at that.

But this Ben Simmons slander is wild to me.

OG has potential and I'll be the first to say I was wrong if he proves to ever be a better overall player than Ben Simmons.
This reminds me of the Draymond Green v Blake Griffin debate to a degree, except Blake seems to have a lead on this version of Simmons while OG hasn't participated in a ring
 
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Guys a bum all those things don’t matter your worth as much as your last season played. Roty 5 years ago ain’t improve since .
getting paid 33m and can’t score can’t shoot can’t play him in crunch time minutes .defense ain’t worth a max contract
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you bring up good points. You are only as good as your last season. But Ben made an all star team in which guys like Fox and Trae got snubbed. He made all NBA defensive first team. And finished runner up for DPOY

He also was useless offensively in the playoffs, has increased his 3 point attempts year over year by single digits, and was a liability at the free throw line that quite frankly lost us games.

it’s a weird, tricky scenario that requires a lot of nuance. It ain’t cut and dry like people (myself included) wanna make it out to be
 
The fact that we can compare Ben Simmons to OG let’s you know all you need to know about him as a player. What other all stars are getting compared to 3 and D guys? What other ROYs are getting compared to OG.

OG doesn’t have upside. Y’all made that up. He’s been productive.

and Ben isn’t Jrue. Don’t care about him being a DPOY runner up. He was on the court when the 6ers blew a 26 point lead.
 
he’s like the 4th option. Ain’t no system for him. He’s a 3 and D guy.

6ers surrounded Simmons around guys that can’t dribble for years under the guise of him being a point guard. Nah this ain’t it.

System as in, there is no superstar in Toronto.

But I'ma let y'all cook. :lol
 
The fact that we can compare Ben Simmons to OG let’s you know all you need to know about him as a player. What other all stars are getting compared to 3 and D guys? What other ROYs are getting compared to OG.

OG doesn’t have upside. Y’all made that up. He’s been productive.

and Ben isn’t Jrue. Don’t care about him being a DPOY runner up. He was on the court when the 6ers blew a 26 point lead.
YOURE the one making the comparisons :lol I said OG would be a throw in in a deal and dudes got deceived :lol there is no comparison. Ben is the better player period. But cats wanna act like there is a comparison to be made because they were linked in a potential trade
 
You think it’s easy to score 16 with no more plays ran for you? No one drawing double teams?

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Are we really supposed to be impressed at 16 ppl :lol I got some news for you, might wanna check Bens stat line. Could also argue that Ben is the 4th scoring option as well so….
 
Fact is, Ben for OG straight up would never happen. Duh. Ben for lowry and OG?

NTer please
Wait and see. Trades are never about just player talent. Lots of things to consider. Lowry gone regardless. So it essentially becomes Ben for OG. And you don’t think that’s gonna happen.

if and when Ben is traded, lots of people gonna be surprised. I promise. Everyone seeming to forget how Money Morey operates
 
Are we really supposed to be impressed at 16 ppl :lol: I got some news for you, might wanna check Bens stat line. Could also argue that Ben is the 4th scoring option as well so….

Again ben being a 4th option let’s you know everything you need to know about him.

scoffing at 16 like ben hasn’t eclipsed that point total.
 
The fact that we can compare Ben Simmons to OG let’s you know all you need to know about him as a player. What other all stars are getting compared to 3 and D guys? What other ROYs are getting compared to OG.

OG doesn’t have upside. Y’all made that up. He’s been productive.

and Ben isn’t Jrue. Don’t care about him being a DPOY runner up. He was on the court when the 6ers blew a 26 point lead.

No, the fact that YOU guys are comparing OG to Ben. :lol:

I don't know for fact, but I highly doubt NBA execs are talking like that.

We'll soon find out though bc I think Ben will definitely get traded this summer.
 
Wait and see. Trades are never about just player talent. Lots of things to consider. Lowry gone regardless. So it essentially becomes Ben for OG. And you don’t think that’s gonna happen.

if and when Ben is traded, lots of people gonna be surprised. I promise. Everyone seeming to forget how Money Morey operates

Please let me know what deal morey made besides fleecing OKC for harden 10 years ago?
 
You think it’s easy to score 16 with no more plays ran for you? No one drawing double teams?

🤔

Bro, if there is no superstar on the team, yeah I think it's easier to get that 16. Who are they really gameplanning against?

One night it's Fleet, the next it's Pascal, the next it could be Lowry.

You throw a TEAM out there like when the Nets didn't have KD/Kyrie/Harden a few years back and everybody getting solid numbers.
 
Are we really supposed to be impressed at 16 ppl :lol: I got some news for you, might wanna check Bens stat line. Could also argue that Ben is the 4th scoring option as well so….

Ben can’t score . Who cares if he’s making all star games I guarantee he ain’t making it this year . Generational talent Ben Simmons been talking about him for 5 years averaging 10 points in a series shooting 40 percent from the line . Guy been shooting bricks for 5 years . Can you tell me what he has improved in the last 5 years ???? Guys one of the most cocky players in the league and got embarrrased this year
 
We watched Daryl Morey for more than a decade try to take fringe contenders over the top in Houston - spanning two eras of multiple superstars.

And he couldn't do it.

Why is "Money Morey" a thing?

he posted some VORP stuff like James harden ain’t going to skew that thing tremendously.

again props for dealing for harden.but he also traded for westbrook
 
Morey never tanked and his teams were right at the cusp and at least tried something different everytime . I’ll take that over teams just trying to run it back over and over again.

Also Ben in Tor would be a good look cause he’ll basically play center.
 
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