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2022 NBA Offseason Thread: Preseason kicks off; Things are fine in Los Angeles, Draymond beats the charges
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The Liberty are getting their *** kicked, I can't have nothing 
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He shot 1x in the 2nd half of an elimination game. No amount of boxing, sprints, or Culver City stairs is going to make up for that.
It’s between the ears and in his chest with him.
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I always used to point out how harden would drive with his forearm out like a battering ram. Great video
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Player of the Decade the last 60 years. Who you got
60's - Bill Russell/Wilt Chamberlain pick em
70's - Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
80's - Magic Johnson/Larry Bird pick em
90's - Michael Jordan
00's - Kobe Bryant
10's - LeBron James/Steph Curry pick em
20's - TBD, but Giannis may be that guy
60's - Bill Russell/Wilt Chamberlain pick em
70's - Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
80's - Magic Johnson/Larry Bird pick em
90's - Michael Jordan
00's - Kobe Bryant
10's - LeBron James/Steph Curry pick em
20's - TBD, but Giannis may be that guy
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They had a chance to fix this curse by giving his son a roster spot in 2008. They gave it to Shawne Williams instead...and here we are.
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We already went through this a few days ago Jemele. I got you Triple OG
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Also forgot to put Bean went 4-1 vs and Shaq 3-1 vs Duncan in the playoff series during the decade as well.
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Yikes, figured people would cut the line at the Seattle pro am game with LeBron
Bummer to those that camped out all night but they should’ve gave out wrist bands
Bummer to those that camped out all night but they should’ve gave out wrist bands
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This was beautiful.
Again, this is why we need to put the breaks on feeling/believing what we are seeing today is so far more advanced than what we saw in the past.
Completely different GAMES>
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A multitude of 'em that it bears no repeating. Kobe was a more lethal two-way playing killer at the end of the day.
Skill-wise these two legends were masters of their craft and dominated an era.
I will say this though, yeah they both had 5 rings but Kobe had one more trip to the Finals than Duncan and they faced each other a total of 82 times in NBA games, although Duncan has a 43-39 winning record over Kobe Bryant during the regular season, Kobe won more matchups and head to head series in the playoffs, going 18-12 overall in the postseason against Timmy D
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Why are you using head to head matchups as your motivating factor?
Also, how many of those matchups took place when Kobe was the clear cut #1 on the Lakers team? (If that is in fact the metric you are deciding to use).
Again,I come in peace.
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Explain your reasoning please.
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2001 Lakers v Spurs (WCF):
Kobe- 33/7/7 on 51/36/77
Shaq- 27/13/3 on 54/51
Lakers sweep 4-0
2002 Lakers v Spurs (WCSF):
Kobe- 26/5/5 on 45/23/58
Shaq- 21/12/3 on 45/64
Lakers win series 4-1
2003 Lakers v Spurs (WCSF):
Kobe- 32/5/4 on 43/44/79
Shaq- 25/14/4 on 56/63
Spurs win series 4-2
2004 Lakers v Spurs (WCSF):
Kobe- 26/6/6 on 45/32/73
Shaq- 22/15/2 on 63/43
Lakers win series 4-2
2008 Lakers v Spurs (WCF):
Kobe 29/6/4 on 53/33/91
Lakers win series 4-1
Shaq going up against all them family men centers in the finals really got things twisted and askew as to what actually happened. Bean performed like the best player on the team basically from 2001 on specifically in the Western conference playoffs. Then Shaq went god mode in the Finals. But for the assertion at hand, those are the facts and you can do with them what you will.
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Yea I think it's disingenuous to use Kobe's time with Shaq while using playoff head to head numbers (vs. Duncan) as an arguing point.
But Cool.
We can drop it.
But Cool.
We can drop it.
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All that don't matter. Kobe been the go to option on the Lakers in the 4th quarter since 2001 bro. We all know Timmy was the #1 even when David Robinson was there just like we all know Kobe has the ball in his hands in the 4th more than Shaq thus making him a #1 option just like Tim.
At the end of the day, if you had first pick and your two options are Timmy and Kobe, I bet anybody that more than 50% of GMs in the league take Kobe over Tim any day of the week.
Head to head matchups notwithstanding.
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1. I didn't know the 4th quarter was the only quarter that mattered. Sure Kobe was the go-to but the logic in using head to head when one player had the luxury of playing 4 of those years with another Top 15 talent while the other didn't is just wild to me. I am sure you understand that but we can pretend it doesn't matter. Fine.
2. Also, it's interesting that you found a way to use him being the 4th quarter go to man as a way to pretend that made him the #1 player on those teams is also wild as hell. Again, unreasonable metric to use when comparing TD vs. Kobe.
But I know it's a tough subject for folks to objectively discuss so I tap out.
I don't mean any disrespect but the points made and evidence used are just illogical.
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