56 MPG mandate by 2025 = SCRAPPED BY current EPA

I agree this is dumb, that will force everyone to buy a brand new car and not be able to drive what they want

Edit: Maybe my car is "FE" but I did the math and it would take about 50 years before buying a prius would be a better option
 
I agree this is dumb, that will force everyone to buy a brand new car and not be able to drive what they want

Edit: Maybe my car is "FE" but I did the math and it would take about 50 years before buying a prius would be a better option
 
^Agree.  I rather the price of gas go up then be forced to have to purchase a vehicle like a Prius. 
Meanwhile... 

[h1]Secret Service using new $1.1 million buses for Obama Midwest trip[/h1]
[h3]By Associated Press, Updated: Monday, August 15, 2:45 PM[/h3]

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WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama is traveling the Midwest on a new $1.1 million bus purchased by the Secret Service, an impenetrable-looking conveyance the size of a cross-country Greyhound, painted all in black, with dark tinted windows and flashing red and blue lights.

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 I wonder how much it cost to gas up these tanks. 
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...midwest-trip/2011/08/15/gIQA85EXHJ_story.html
 
^Agree.  I rather the price of gas go up then be forced to have to purchase a vehicle like a Prius. 
Meanwhile... 

[h1]Secret Service using new $1.1 million buses for Obama Midwest trip[/h1]
[h3]By Associated Press, Updated: Monday, August 15, 2:45 PM[/h3]

[article=""]
WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama is traveling the Midwest on a new $1.1 million bus purchased by the Secret Service, an impenetrable-looking conveyance the size of a cross-country Greyhound, painted all in black, with dark tinted windows and flashing red and blue lights.

394-CoITk.Em.55.jpg

[/article]

 I wonder how much it cost to gas up these tanks. 
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...midwest-trip/2011/08/15/gIQA85EXHJ_story.html
 
1. electric cars exist, SPORTS cars (tesla), and they'll only get cheaper when the technology is perfected (the Nissan Esflow concept estimated cost is $34000-$40000)
2. a gotdamn 305 HP ford mustang can get 30 MPG TODAY, no hybrid technology included


Basically if we can't get 56 MPG + affordable electric sports cars by 2025 it's because somebody doesn't want us to (Big Oil).

I feel where yall are coming from though, you should have the right to drive what you want, @$!! I'm trying to fix up an old school car right now and I'm not dropping it come 2025. I think the requirement should be more along the lines of FORCING manufacturers to produce a decent assortment (trucks, cars, vans etc.) of AFFORDABLE 56+ MPG vehicles that are available alongside all the other gas guzzlers, like basically a specific quota of high mileage cars. That way consumers have at least have an option, and everybody wins.
 
1. electric cars exist, SPORTS cars (tesla), and they'll only get cheaper when the technology is perfected (the Nissan Esflow concept estimated cost is $34000-$40000)
2. a gotdamn 305 HP ford mustang can get 30 MPG TODAY, no hybrid technology included


Basically if we can't get 56 MPG + affordable electric sports cars by 2025 it's because somebody doesn't want us to (Big Oil).

I feel where yall are coming from though, you should have the right to drive what you want, @$!! I'm trying to fix up an old school car right now and I'm not dropping it come 2025. I think the requirement should be more along the lines of FORCING manufacturers to produce a decent assortment (trucks, cars, vans etc.) of AFFORDABLE 56+ MPG vehicles that are available alongside all the other gas guzzlers, like basically a specific quota of high mileage cars. That way consumers have at least have an option, and everybody wins.
 
The EPA rejects Obama-era ‘54.4 mpg by 2025’ automotive mandate
By Chris Chin — Posted on April 2, 2018 3:37 pm


The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency officially announced its rejection to renew an Obama-era mandate requiring automakers to push for higher fuel economy standards on light vehicles. This is the latest development from previous rumors that the U.S. government would repeal former President Barack Obama’s fuel economy standards from last week.

In 2012, the Obama administration signed in new fuel economy standards for Corporate Average Fuel Economy (CAFE) requirements. In essence, it takes a single automaker and considers the average fuel economy rating of each model vehicle it produces, then combines those averages into one single average score for the company as a whole.

For example, the CAFE requirements take the average fuel economy ratings for all the vehicles BMW makes under all of its portfolios. Then, those scores are averaged up, leading to BMW’s CAFE score. The same process would give its rivals, Audi, a similar score, and Mercedes-Benz, and so on. The Obama administration’s mandate required all automakers to average up a Corporate Average Fuel Economy rating of 54.4 miles per gallon by the year 2025.

This ultimately was to encourage automakers to innovate and reduce fuel consumption. Some of the results from the mandate led to trends such as engine downsizing, forced induction (the reason why some cars no longer offer V6s, because of turbo-fours), and transmissions with as many gears as a mountain bike. This mandate is also why hybridization and electrification is all the buzz these days.

Now, under EPA chief Scott Pruitt’s reign, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency rejected to renew this 54.4 mpg CAFE mandate.

"The Obama Administration's determination was wrong," Pruitt noted in a statement. "Obama's EPA cut the Midterm Evaluation process short with politically charged expediency, made assumptions about the standards that didn't comport with reality, and set the standards too high."

Additionally, Pruitt noted that the EPA will revise the rules, but didn’t go into any further detail.

This comes at an already crazy time for emissions control and fuel economy standards as the state of California recently vowed to make its Clean Air Act regulations even stricter, putting the U.S.’s largest car market and the Trump administration in a political head-to-head.



EPA will set a nat’l standard for GHG emissions that allows auto manufacturers to make cars ppl want & can afford, while still expanding environmental & safety benefits of newer cars.




This could potentially mean a huge weight was lifted off the shoulders of automakers. Perhaps, less stringent CAFE rules could also mean automakers won’t have to take drastic and shady moves, such as Volkswagen’s “Dieselgate.” This, of course, is speculation. Nonetheless, it’s going to be interesting to see how the EPA will proceed

https://www.digitaltrends.com/cars/epa-rejects-obama-era-544-mpg-by-2025-cafe-mandate/




 
The EPA rejects Obama-era ‘54.4 mpg by 2025’ automotive mandate
By Chris Chin — Posted on April 2, 2018 3:37 pm


The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency officially announced its rejection to renew an Obama-era mandate requiring automakers to push for higher fuel economy standards on light vehicles. This is the latest development from previous rumors that the U.S. government would repeal former President Barack Obama’s fuel economy standards from last week.

In 2012, the Obama administration signed in new fuel economy standards for Corporate Average Fuel Economy (CAFE) requirements. In essence, it takes a single automaker and considers the average fuel economy rating of each model vehicle it produces, then combines those averages into one single average score for the company as a whole.

For example, the CAFE requirements take the average fuel economy ratings for all the vehicles BMW makes under all of its portfolios. Then, those scores are averaged up, leading to BMW’s CAFE score. The same process would give its rivals, Audi, a similar score, and Mercedes-Benz, and so on. The Obama administration’s mandate required all automakers to average up a Corporate Average Fuel Economy rating of 54.4 miles per gallon by the year 2025.

This ultimately was to encourage automakers to innovate and reduce fuel consumption. Some of the results from the mandate led to trends such as engine downsizing, forced induction (the reason why some cars no longer offer V6s, because of turbo-fours), and transmissions with as many gears as a mountain bike. This mandate is also why hybridization and electrification is all the buzz these days.

Now, under EPA chief Scott Pruitt’s reign, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency rejected to renew this 54.4 mpg CAFE mandate.

"The Obama Administration's determination was wrong," Pruitt noted in a statement. "Obama's EPA cut the Midterm Evaluation process short with politically charged expediency, made assumptions about the standards that didn't comport with reality, and set the standards too high."

Additionally, Pruitt noted that the EPA will revise the rules, but didn’t go into any further detail.

This comes at an already crazy time for emissions control and fuel economy standards as the state of California recently vowed to make its Clean Air Act regulations even stricter, putting the U.S.’s largest car market and the Trump administration in a political head-to-head.



EPA will set a nat’l standard for GHG emissions that allows auto manufacturers to make cars ppl want & can afford, while still expanding environmental & safety benefits of newer cars.




This could potentially mean a huge weight was lifted off the shoulders of automakers. Perhaps, less stringent CAFE rules could also mean automakers won’t have to take drastic and shady moves, such as Volkswagen’s “Dieselgate.” This, of course, is speculation. Nonetheless, it’s going to be interesting to see how the EPA will proceed

https://www.digitaltrends.com/cars/epa-rejects-obama-era-544-mpg-by-2025-cafe-mandate/




Now if only C.A.R.B WOULD LEAVE THESE BS EMMISSIONS ALONE
 
got a 2012 Chevy impala
With 120k on the od
And it’s been reliable as hell
Chevy is good in my book
 
at the end of the day, i think the majority of consumers will still be buying EV/higher MPG vehicles regardless.
 
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