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Yall are funny. This is DEFINITELY not meant to be a serious track. Come on now. He was probably just effing around and somehow it got out.
Anyone heard the Jay-Z Deshawn Stevenson "response"
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I actually think he is goin at Joey (or somebody else besides Deshawn) in a few of them bars....
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Originally Posted by true 3 blue
Originally Posted by FWA III
@ this clown jay.
why the hell is he going at an athlete?
no wonder duke ain't had a hot album since 2003.
the only thing he and michael jordan have in common that they came back one too many times.
son stop talkin
son hop off jays n
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It was a funny freestyle....
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Originally Posted by FWA III
Originally Posted by true 3 blue
Originally Posted by FWA III
@ this clown jay.
why the hell is he going at an athlete?
no wonder duke ain't had a hot album since 2003.
the only thing he and michael jordan have in common that they came back one too many times.
son stop talkin
son hop off jays n
what a tool
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I enjoyed the song...it was a bit more personal than it should've been though
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I'mma touch on several points, And then pull a "Hov" and not respond anymore...
- First off, I can't have a real, logical debate with those who idolize or are a fan of Jay-Z. They're just not objective, And they'll twist anything in Jay-Z's favor. It's just an unfair double standard that they place on all aspects of Jay-Z's life and career. N's got endless excuses and explanations for Jay's actions and behaviors, So trying to engage someone like that in a debate is a useless cause. When _____ does something it's "corny", When Hov does something it's "Let him do what he do..." Or when Jay doesn't respond to someone: "It isn't worth his time, He almost has a billie, Why would he care?" But let him put out a response: "Get 'em Hov!
". This N' Jay-Z got a bigger network of ********rs than Verizon. I don't want to unfairly label any Jay fans, But some fall into that category. I don't idolize men, Or anybody for that matter...I feel like that's wrong, But if there is anybody you should idolize as a young black male, Jay-Z would be on the top of the list. But like I said, I don't condone idolizing people.
- Since we on the topic of fans, I don't consider myself a "fan". If anything, I consider myself a supporter of said artist. I make that distinction and don't confuse the two. Fans can't tell the difference...Like I said, They're not objective. That's why I can appreciate everything that S.C. has done as far as life accomplishments and overall great artistry. At the same time, I don't agree with everything he does as a person. Fans can't say "Oh, That Jay song was flames...But he gay as hell for doing this...", Because they're so blinded that Hov can do no wrong in their eyes. I don't sit up and analyze what he should or shouldn't have done, But what I do do, Is point out inconsistencies and contradictions (There are tons of those) in the things he does. And regardless of what some may think, When you reach a certain level of fame, Your life is up for display and examination. Y'all will understand that when (or if) you ever reach that status. So if Jay-Z does something in the public arena, I'm entitled to speak on it, Because...
- I'm a grown man.
- This is a free country.
- I can voice my opinion on who and what I want, And so can all of you.
- Prime example of someone twisting the situation: He's defending his friend. He'll "defend" LeBron (LeBron is a grown man), But not Beyonce (his wife) when Cam disrespected her? I guess he follows that Gangstalicious school of thought..."Homies Over Ho's". B probably went on a vagina-strike for a month after that. This guy seems to be defending everything but his honor.
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Jay doesn't respond to Buddens and Cam because if he does it will help them sell more records.
It's all strategic. "You playing pitty pat with a chess player"
Jay knows what he's doing. That's why he's at the top.
The track is a joke. Ya'll are taking it way to serious..
It's all strategic. "You playing pitty pat with a chess player"
Jay knows what he's doing. That's why he's at the top.
The track is a joke. Ya'll are taking it way to serious..
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lol @ homie getting into Jay's business sense...the whole point of a rap battle is a lyrical thing...it's not about trying to destroy Jay'scareer...we all know dude is the truth when it comes to his money...nobodies denying that...the the battle between him and Nas was to establish a position inrap, not the business world...but it's whatever...they ain't fightin about it anymore, so we shouldn't either...but Jay knows
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Originally Posted by bodyfullapolo
I'mma touch on several points, And then pull a "Hov" and not respond anymore...
- First off, I can't have a real, logical debate with those who idolize or are a fan of Jay-Z. They're just not objective, And they'll twist anything in Jay-Z's favor. It's just an unfair double standard that they place on all aspects of Jay-Z's life and career. N's got endless excuses and explanations for Jay's actions and behaviors, So trying to engage someone like that in a debate is a useless cause. When _____ does something it's "corny", When Hov does something it's "Let him do what he do..." Or when Jay doesn't respond to someone: "It isn't worth his time, He almost has a billie, Why would he care?" But let him put out a response: "Get 'em Hov!
". This N' Jay-Z got a bigger network of ********rs than Verizon. I don't want to unfairly label any Jay fans, But some fall into that category. I don't idolize men, Or anybody for that matter...I feel like that's wrong, But if there is anybody you should idolize as a young black male, Jay-Z would be on the top of the list. But like I said, I don't condone idolizing people.
- Since we on the topic of fans, I don't consider myself a "fan". If anything, I consider myself a supporter of said artist. I make that distinction and don't confuse the two. Fans can't tell the difference...Like I said, They're not objective. That's why I can appreciate everything that S.C. has done as far as life accomplishments and overall great artistry. At the same time, I don't agree with everything he does as a person. Fans can't say "Oh, That Jay song was flames...But he gay as hell for doing this...", Because they're so blinded that Hov can do no wrong in their eyes. I don't sit up and analyze what he should or shouldn't have done, But what I do do, Is point out inconsistencies and contradictions (There are tons of those) in the things he does. And regardless of what some may think, When you reach a certain level of fame, Your life is up for display and examination. Y'all will understand that when (or if) you ever reach that status. So if Jay-Z does something in the public arena, I'm entitled to speak on it, Because...
- I'm a grown man.
- This is a free country.
- I can voice my opinion on who and what I want, And so can all of you.
But that's his prerogative.
- Prime example of someone twisting the situation: He's defending his friend. He'll "defend" LeBron (LeBron is a grown man), But not Beyonce (his wife) when Cam disrespected her? I guess he follows that Gangstalicious school of thought..."Homies Over Ho's". B probably went on a vagina-strike for a month after that. This guy seems to be defending everything but his honor.
well, that goes for alot of people that are fans of certain people
me on the other hand, that's my favorite rapper and i frowned upon him even THINKING to make a track dissing Deshawn. It boggles my mind how he canblatantly ignore Joe Budden, Cam'ron, Jim Jones, J.R. Writer, Prodigy, Raekwon and many others who have expressed their displeasure with him more timesthan not in recent months (years for that matter) but feels the need to defend Lebron. 2 thumbs down for 'Big Homey' imo
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Why is this thread 4 pages.... Jay just spit a lil verse and kept it moving... i doubt its personal just threw a few subliminals all in fun. Cats acting lkewhen Jay see Deshawn on the streets its gon be gun play
Yeah there really was not point of Jay's response but he did... its not like he's trya make a career outta dissing duke. I think some are taking itmore serious than it really is.
Yeah there really was not point of Jay's response but he did... its not like he's trya make a career outta dissing duke. I think some are taking itmore serious than it really is.
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Well put response, still I don't agree with a few things but I see where your coming from.
But anyway, this track is just entertainment some of yall are taking it more to heart than Deshawn lol
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y are people bringin up cam like dig a hole never dropped?
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Cats acting lke when Jay see Deshawn on the streets its gon be gun play
But if it was Cam...it'd be 10 pages....and what you said would still apply...
What I'm gettin at is..
people sayin "This is just entertainment"
When they're the same people who will tell us Rap Beef is just that, entertainment.
They can't make up their mind
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lol i dont kno tweek....yall tryna break this down a bit too much
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dig a hole was half assed/half hearted
his intentions wasn't even there when he was recording that track.
his intentions wasn't even there when he was recording that track.
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that was kinda the point... all he did was explain how he aint have to do +%%$ to win... and he was right...
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All im saying is that it doesn't add up. There's no consistency there...
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beyond LAME
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I mean, the first time I heard "Real __s like why Hov talking to dude?" I damn naer spit upOriginally Posted by TW3EK
that was kinda the point... all he did was explain how he aint have to do +%%$ to win... and he was right...
As for what my __ Jewels is talking about. He's right.
A lot of Jay's moves have made little sense to me, but it's always made a lot more cents to him. I figure whatever he does is usually ashrewd, calculated biz move. Actually, it's more likely that he made this track as a way to get his name tossed around in the sports forum like it is inthe music forum (What's Jay-Z dropping Vol. 2304872346723) and the general forum (Jay and B Pics Vol. 238539580932503). Of course I mean thatfiguratively, but you get the point. It's probably all another biz move... and it'll probably work. And if it's all biz, we can speculate 1000 goodreasons for why he picks and choses his battles.
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jay is madd corny for this track
going after an athlete? the first couple of
bars where basically jayz sucking lebron
going after an athlete? the first couple of
bars where basically jayz sucking lebron
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So if someone comes at your friend...you'll respond.
But if someone comes at YOUR neck, nothin?
Doesn't add up.
And the entertainment thing....all everyone says is Rap Beef is entertainment.....So......
so true
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here in dc on the radio they played a response to jayz , didnt mention the artist but he was killin hov with weak lines like your a balla not a baller