Bill Clinton thinks he knows how to fix the country, do you agree?

1. I'm not Indian 2. I'm not a Republican



Glad to hear that champ.

more people NEED to see that second vid... open your eyes people
I agree completely.

even the most liberal democrat will tell you it was Clinton who is ultimately responsible for what we are feeling now
You actually believe that........
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1. I'm not Indian 2. I'm not a Republican



Glad to hear that champ.

more people NEED to see that second vid... open your eyes people
I agree completely.

even the most liberal democrat will tell you it was Clinton who is ultimately responsible for what we are feeling now
You actually believe that........
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Originally Posted by F A Y B A N

Did anyone catch his opinion on the jobs market?  He quoted how their are 2 open positions for every hiring.  He actually tried to say that jobs are out there but we don't have enough qualified candidates.  This is the new charade of the American dream.  They class out new graduates for yesteryear's entry level positions by requiring extensive experience.  Today's entry level positions are then filled by overqualified candidates who take haircuts to keep a job.  The goalposts for employment keep changing where a b.s. equals a high school diploma while the financial barriers to higher education keep rising.  

I addressed this logic in another thread. Why would you hire someone who just walked off the stage as opposed to someone who has more experience in that field with a lower education? Especially in a time like this, where companies are making money with a cut labor force, they need the people with experience more than the ones who have a degree. Why? Because they don't have to pay them as much. Make sense? Also, with the amount of training a new grad would need as opposed to someone who already had the job doesn't make much sense either when it comes down to the bottom line.  B.S. = More money, but money is tight right now, so High School = less money, but better chance for more production with a lower wage. So what are you going to do?

Bill Clinton just addressed in that vid the same thing he addressed signing the Community Investment Act in 1994. Everyone is entitled to own a home and everyone with a Bachelors degree means you are entitled to a job.


Glad to hear that champ.
I loathe the 2 party system. I wish people would just say what they mean, instead of telling people what they think they should hear.
 
Originally Posted by F A Y B A N

Did anyone catch his opinion on the jobs market?  He quoted how their are 2 open positions for every hiring.  He actually tried to say that jobs are out there but we don't have enough qualified candidates.  This is the new charade of the American dream.  They class out new graduates for yesteryear's entry level positions by requiring extensive experience.  Today's entry level positions are then filled by overqualified candidates who take haircuts to keep a job.  The goalposts for employment keep changing where a b.s. equals a high school diploma while the financial barriers to higher education keep rising.  

I addressed this logic in another thread. Why would you hire someone who just walked off the stage as opposed to someone who has more experience in that field with a lower education? Especially in a time like this, where companies are making money with a cut labor force, they need the people with experience more than the ones who have a degree. Why? Because they don't have to pay them as much. Make sense? Also, with the amount of training a new grad would need as opposed to someone who already had the job doesn't make much sense either when it comes down to the bottom line.  B.S. = More money, but money is tight right now, so High School = less money, but better chance for more production with a lower wage. So what are you going to do?

Bill Clinton just addressed in that vid the same thing he addressed signing the Community Investment Act in 1994. Everyone is entitled to own a home and everyone with a Bachelors degree means you are entitled to a job.


Glad to hear that champ.
I loathe the 2 party system. I wish people would just say what they mean, instead of telling people what they think they should hear.
 
You really have to love !@** Cheney regardless of what you think of his politics; the man pushed everything he wanted through, regardless of the opposition.
Oh yea.. we sure do love the hundreds of thousands of dead Iraqis, 5,000 + dead American soldiers, and millions of displaced civilians.. who, while living in refugee camps are recruited by the Taliban, Al Queda and other terrorist organizations.. All while wasting trillions of dollars on this war of theirs, and making the entire middle east hate us..Talk about adding fuel to the fire.. gotta love that Cheney fella though.
 
You really have to love !@** Cheney regardless of what you think of his politics; the man pushed everything he wanted through, regardless of the opposition.
Oh yea.. we sure do love the hundreds of thousands of dead Iraqis, 5,000 + dead American soldiers, and millions of displaced civilians.. who, while living in refugee camps are recruited by the Taliban, Al Queda and other terrorist organizations.. All while wasting trillions of dollars on this war of theirs, and making the entire middle east hate us..Talk about adding fuel to the fire.. gotta love that Cheney fella though.
 
why try and fix something that has been broken since it's start? the whole world needs a complete overhaul in the way everything is run, sadly nothing will change for a long long time. instead of everyone working together to fix things people rely on the government to patch a broken system, while everyone sits around worrying about what religion the next person is, about the new hdtv they are getting or what kim kardashian is doing at the moment. #$$* is ridiculous. 
 
why try and fix something that has been broken since it's start? the whole world needs a complete overhaul in the way everything is run, sadly nothing will change for a long long time. instead of everyone working together to fix things people rely on the government to patch a broken system, while everyone sits around worrying about what religion the next person is, about the new hdtv they are getting or what kim kardashian is doing at the moment. #$$* is ridiculous. 
 
Originally Posted by 2SeatPort

Originally Posted by rashi

No, Bill is an idiot. His massive inflationary policies during the 90's contributed to the circumstance we are in now.

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Just an observation, but why is every Indian guy I know a Republican?


THIS!


Except my Indian friends from Trinidad.
 
Originally Posted by 2SeatPort

Originally Posted by rashi

No, Bill is an idiot. His massive inflationary policies during the 90's contributed to the circumstance we are in now.

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Just an observation, but why is every Indian guy I know a Republican?


THIS!


Except my Indian friends from Trinidad.
 
Originally Posted by rashi

Originally Posted by F A Y B A N

Did anyone catch his opinion on the jobs market?  He quoted how their are 2 open positions for every hiring.  He actually tried to say that jobs are out there but we don't have enough qualified candidates.  This is the new charade of the American dream.  They class out new graduates for yesteryear's entry level positions by requiring extensive experience.  Today's entry level positions are then filled by overqualified candidates who take haircuts to keep a job.  The goalposts for employment keep changing where a b.s. equals a high school diploma while the financial barriers to higher education keep rising.  

I addressed this logic in another thread. Why would you hire someone who just walked off the stage as opposed to someone who has more experience in that field with a lower education? Especially in a time like this, where companies are making money with a cut labor force, they need the people with experience more than the ones who have a degree. Why? Because they don't have to pay them as much. Make sense? Also, with the amount of training a new grad would need as opposed to someone who already had the job doesn't make much sense either when it comes down to the bottom line.  B.S. = More money, but money is tight right now, so High School = less money, but better chance for more production with a lower wage. So what are you going to do?

Bill Clinton just addressed in that vid the same thing he addressed signing the Community Investment Act in 1994. Everyone is entitled to own a home and everyone with a Bachelors degree means you are entitled to a job.


Glad to hear that champ.
I loathe the 2 party system. I wish people would just say what they mean, instead of telling people what they think they should hear.


How did you address my logic when you just repeated exactly what I said.  
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 I'm not arguing with you. 
I'm talking about downward mobility.  Consider when the typical graduate finishes school and how much he expects to make on his first job.  If entry level jobs are being filled by more qualified candidates released from higher positions, undergraduates are forced into retail and other low wage positions.  I hate to go into it but if the salaries keep decreasing, the level of education and the work related experienced keep rising, and the cost of education keeps rising, you have a problem.

I've seen numerous studies on the value of a b.s. compared to that of 10 and 20 years ago and they are depressing.  You want to see class wars, this is it.  Look at the NY school system, education and it's costs are real and the competition will class a lot of people out.  
 
Originally Posted by rashi

Originally Posted by F A Y B A N

Did anyone catch his opinion on the jobs market?  He quoted how their are 2 open positions for every hiring.  He actually tried to say that jobs are out there but we don't have enough qualified candidates.  This is the new charade of the American dream.  They class out new graduates for yesteryear's entry level positions by requiring extensive experience.  Today's entry level positions are then filled by overqualified candidates who take haircuts to keep a job.  The goalposts for employment keep changing where a b.s. equals a high school diploma while the financial barriers to higher education keep rising.  

I addressed this logic in another thread. Why would you hire someone who just walked off the stage as opposed to someone who has more experience in that field with a lower education? Especially in a time like this, where companies are making money with a cut labor force, they need the people with experience more than the ones who have a degree. Why? Because they don't have to pay them as much. Make sense? Also, with the amount of training a new grad would need as opposed to someone who already had the job doesn't make much sense either when it comes down to the bottom line.  B.S. = More money, but money is tight right now, so High School = less money, but better chance for more production with a lower wage. So what are you going to do?

Bill Clinton just addressed in that vid the same thing he addressed signing the Community Investment Act in 1994. Everyone is entitled to own a home and everyone with a Bachelors degree means you are entitled to a job.


Glad to hear that champ.
I loathe the 2 party system. I wish people would just say what they mean, instead of telling people what they think they should hear.


How did you address my logic when you just repeated exactly what I said.  
laugh.gif
 I'm not arguing with you. 
I'm talking about downward mobility.  Consider when the typical graduate finishes school and how much he expects to make on his first job.  If entry level jobs are being filled by more qualified candidates released from higher positions, undergraduates are forced into retail and other low wage positions.  I hate to go into it but if the salaries keep decreasing, the level of education and the work related experienced keep rising, and the cost of education keeps rising, you have a problem.

I've seen numerous studies on the value of a b.s. compared to that of 10 and 20 years ago and they are depressing.  You want to see class wars, this is it.  Look at the NY school system, education and it's costs are real and the competition will class a lot of people out.  
 
Originally Posted by moneyisthemotive

Originally Posted by Any Given Sunday89

No, Bill is an idiot. His massive inflationary policies during the 90's contributed to the circumstance we are in now.
  Blaming anyone but the Bush administration for the state our country is in is just silly.. talk about crooks..
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 you serious? even the most liberal democrat will tell you it was Clinton who is ultimately responsible for what we are feeling now ... Bush was the one who overlooked it for 8 years and did little to reverse the trend Clinton started ... 

The housing market is the biggest trigger in our economy right now and it is not coming back anytime soon ... It is the way it is because Clinton bought votes with unsustainable and idiotic housing legislation ...

  
i think he is being sarcastic 
 
Originally Posted by moneyisthemotive

Originally Posted by Any Given Sunday89

No, Bill is an idiot. His massive inflationary policies during the 90's contributed to the circumstance we are in now.
  Blaming anyone but the Bush administration for the state our country is in is just silly.. talk about crooks..
roll.gif
 you serious? even the most liberal democrat will tell you it was Clinton who is ultimately responsible for what we are feeling now ... Bush was the one who overlooked it for 8 years and did little to reverse the trend Clinton started ... 

The housing market is the biggest trigger in our economy right now and it is not coming back anytime soon ... It is the way it is because Clinton bought votes with unsustainable and idiotic housing legislation ...

  
i think he is being sarcastic 
 
One of the problems is that capitalism has spiraled out of control. Everyone who speaks out on it is labeled a socialist.

Socialism is not the answer, but the capitalist system we have now isn't either. The gap between the rich and poor, along with the elimination and struggles of the middle class are big issues.

System needs overhauling. Start on Wall St.
 
One of the problems is that capitalism has spiraled out of control. Everyone who speaks out on it is labeled a socialist.

Socialism is not the answer, but the capitalist system we have now isn't either. The gap between the rich and poor, along with the elimination and struggles of the middle class are big issues.

System needs overhauling. Start on Wall St.
 
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