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Ok just read the CBS story which contains more detail. First off RIP to that woman who collapsed and died later on . This article answered my question about the guns being packaged. Apparently he took the gun out of the packaging and was pointing it at children and customers in the store . If this is true then he brought that on himself.
Not saying he deserved to die, but he invited that entire situation to his front door. The story still doesn't say what the dialogue was between the cops and the victim, only that they told him to put the gun down and then two shots were fired. Did he point the gun at them also? Did he refuse to put it down? Were they too quick on the draw and didn't give him enough time to put it down?
This is what we need to know.
people do this all the time in Walmart but don't get killed
maybe the police should arrest people for turning up the volume in the radio section for noise violation
Look at the title of this thread and read the article. The guy was walking up and down the aisles pointing it at people. I hate to say it but this is not another case of innocent black guy dying by hands of police. Once again misleading title
What Walmart's do you go to where people are pointing guns at each other?
What Walmart's do you go to where people are pointing guns at each other?
By guns do you acknowledge we are talking about toy guns which you are supposed to do with.
Look at the title of this thread and read the article. The guy was walking up and down the aisles pointing it at people. I hate to say it but this is not another case of innocent black guy dying by hands of police. Once again misleading title
He had an unloaded air rifle in a toy store.... yet it's okay for the cops to take his life...................
Had this guy been white Nobody would have even called authorities, but yea waving an air rifle surely should come with the consequence of losing your life.
Walmart is a toy store now? He opened up the toy in the store, in a public place and thought that was ok? Why is a grown man walking around pointing it at people? Common sense has to be used sometimes in a society where we as blacks are being killed for the smallest things
What Walmart's do you go to where people are pointing guns at each other?
By guns do you acknowledge we are talking about toy guns which you are supposed to do with.
no they dont famPeople do this all the time in Walmart and DONT GET KILLED
IDKI kinda think this does come down to a race case tho. Ohio has open carry. Why did the couple think this guy was more threatening?
Found this doc
http://www.buckeyefirearms.org/cinc...ff-legality-regarding-open-carry-firearm-ohio
From another police dept
In the July 3, 2012 Cincinnati Police Department Staff Notes, CPD Chief James E. Craig took the opportunity to inform his department on the law regarding open carry of a firearm in Ohio.
From the document:
3. LAW DEPARTMENT MEMO ON OPEN CARRY OF A FIREARM IN OHIO
Ohio law permits the open carry of a firearm with few exceptions. Citizens may openly carry firearms in public places unless there is a specific prohibition against carrying a firearm in that place (police station, school safety zone, courthouse, etc.).
Since Cleveland v. State of Ohio, 2010-Ohio-6318, regulation of the "ownership, possession, purchase, other acquisition, transport, storage, carrying, sale, or other transfer of firearms, their components, and their ammunition" is only done by state and federal law. Local municipal laws may only regulate the discharge of firearms. Therefore, officers should not charge individuals with violations of the Cincinnati Municipal Code unless the ordinance deals with the discharge of a firearm.
Many people worry when they see someone openly carrying a gun. Officers can expect to receive calls when this happens. But, openly carrying a firearm, by itself, is not illegal. The fact that someone has called 911 or flagged down an officer about seeing someone with a gun in public is probably not enough to support an investigative detention. In such situations, an officer must observe the subject and evaluate the totality of circumstances to determine whether reasonable suspicion exists to justify detaining the individual. If the individual is doing nothing else that arouses suspicion, simply wearing a gun will not justify a detention.
It is important to note, open carry by itself also would not support a charge of Disorderly Conduct or Inducing Panic. There must be additional facts to support these offenses. If someone is lawfully carrying a firearm—and doing nothing else— the fact that it causes alarm to others does not support a charge.
Equally important, before you charge someone with a violation of Ohio Revised Code (ORC) 2921.29, Failure to Disclose Personal Information (also referred to as the "Stop and I.D." law), you first must have reasonable suspicion that person has, is, or is about to commit a criminal offense. The "Stop and I.D." law does not apply unless you already have a valid investigative detention of the person – and open carry by itself is not enough. Citizens may ignore your request for information during a consensual encounter, so you may only charge a citizen with a violation of ORC 2921.29 when they are legally detained.
Private businesses or property owners may prohibit all firearms on their property. They may post signs prohibiting firearms or they may order a person to leave for such behavior. Criminal Trespass is the appropriate charge if a person is on private property in violation of such a prohibition.
- See more at: http://www.buckeyefirearms.org/cinc...-open-carry-firearm-ohio#sthash.Q2YdH7sG.dpuf
Did the police give him enough time to comply? If you back is turned and your holding a gun and somebody says freeze, don't you turn?