Boardwalk Empire Season 3 Thread - "Margate Sands" SEASON FINALE

You'd find far better, far more articulate answers elsewhere on the interwebz on why this show is entertaining to some.

I just feel, as a fellow Giants fan [GO BLUE!], you should cut your losses and drop the show out your mind. I did after investing my time with The Walking Dead. I don't go in that thread and ask around, but that's just me.
 
I watch plenty of shows. I've invested my time in Boardwalk and it has had its moments but, like I said, this year they have been few and far between in my eyes.
And when I ask the question of what everyone has seen this year to praise it, I'm genuinely curious because I've been watching the show.
Harrow has been the best character on the show and has had longevity. Gyp was okay and probably shouldn't have died - if a season 4 was already planned - which it was - why not keep him alive and fuel the battle with Nucky more. Now you have to introduce a new bad guy.

I def. see what you mean by suggesting they have kept Gyp alive for season 4, and how his death was very anti-climatic. (Nucky should have been face-to-face with him, because he wasn't a lot to begin with. It would have felt right for him to off him).

This season might just be the weakest of the three, for sure, but I definitely enjoyed it still.

And as far as the introducing a bad-guy, who knows, they may stick to the real gangsters from now on instead of a Jimmy/Gyp fictional addition.
 
Who said the line "how can you lose what you never had" and what was it in context to? I keep forgetting.

Also what was the deal Eli made with Capone?
 
gonna miss gyp though, that dude was real. hope to see him in some other gangster movies in the future.
 
Richard coming through with every perk equipped.:smokin

A one man f-ing army :eek :smokin . Good Lord, there are no words :hat

The way AR played Lucky was ****** up :{
 
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There was no way Gyp could stay alive for season 4. Honestly he was down to 3 men with him on the beach and not only was Nucky after him but Masseria would have been too once he heard about what happened to all of his men. Gyp isnt the type to go sneaking around and hiding from people so what exactly could he have done if he came back for another season? His time was up and he had to go.

Also a couple people mentioned how it would have been better if Nucky was face to face with Gyp and killed him right infront of him. That would have been the same exact way that Jimmy died in last season's finale. The writers had to switch it up and the only way someone was going to get close enough to kill him without him knowing was by having Gillian or one of his men do it. In the end it wasnt really about Nucky killing Gyp, it was more about Nucky regaining control of Atlantic City as well as showing the other big guys like Rothstein and Masseria that he isnt to be messed with. Thats why I dont necessarily believe it had to be Nucky personally killing Gyp, just that he had to go.

I was waiting for Harrow to show up all episode and the way he came in was just perfect. I had a bad feeling when Nucky and Eli were walking past all the dead bodies that they were going to come face to face with Harrow and that someone was going to be killed before anyone realized what had happened. Im happy it didnt turn out like that.

Also that article states that Gillian is still alive so it will be interesting to see what happens with her storyline in season 4. I could see it going in two different directions with either her possibly having a change of heart about Harrow saving Tommy and maybe letting him live his life with Julia since she might realize it is better for Tommy or going in the direction of her being angry that Tommy was taken away from her which would seem more logical knowing the type of person she is.

Overall another great season :hat
 
You know...I've been watching this show from season 1 to now - and there are so many of you that are so high on the show - praising it every step of the way and I don't get it. Especially this season.

I feel like the show has run it's course but season 4 is on the way so there's that. I just refuse to be okay with mediocre television and that's what I feel Boardwalk was for 90% of this season.
So 90% of this season was mediocre, yet you still watched it...

Anyway, I thought the finale was great.  My only complaint was how Gyp went out, but I guess it was the start of Nucky being more lowkey.

Can't believe he went back to Margaret
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, and I guess we'll be seeing more of her in the next season as well
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I was anticipating that Harrow scene and it delivered
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Nice little cameo for Capone.  Dude just shot up Masseria's men and called it a day
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Chalky being used more in the next season will be good
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I'm glad they took out Gyp though, would've been too much of a cliffhanger if he stayed alive.  I can live with Harrow bouncing and Nucky tossing the red flower...
 
I can see in Season 4 that Capone and Chalky are heavily involved. Also Luciano goes out on his own and comes for AR. I can't stand Margaret
 
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Next season's villian will have a lot work to do

I wonder if we'll see harrow again

I thought Eli was gonna get popped

Nucky setting up AR and AR setting up Lucky
 
What I just don't get is, what did Capone get out this? What deal (if any) did he make with Eli to help Nucky? Or did he just get paid? If it was just for the money - kind of weak story.

As for next season, Massaria & Rothstein are going to be livid and upset with Nucky. Nuckys enemies are going to be them. Lucky is going to drift away and find help with Nucky so he could eventually start the beginning of taking over Massarias spot and to get back Rothstein. It's easy to predict knowing the background on the real characters. Next season will show the beginning of the rise of Lucky and Meyer on his side - with the help of Nucky.
 
The Harrow scene was the best part of the finale.. No f's given.. He almost got cheddar bobbed/plaxed though..

This dude AR always remains calm and very strategic.. You see it rub off on Meyer..

The way Gyp died made me laugh.. It was like when he had the belt around his neck.. And his main man killed him.. That part business and part personal for killing his cousin.
 
This confused me. From Lucky Luciano's wikipedia:

Rothstein served as a mentor for Luciano. In 1923, after ruining his reputation in the criminal community with a botched drug deal, Luciano went to Rothstein for advice.
 
Van Alden is done or something? His last appearance was getting arrested by the alco cops in the bar he was selling the home made drink right?

So Torrio is officially done since Al said to Nucky "your deal is with me."
 
Great finale.

Not just Harrow out the blue blasting Gyp's men away but his ending where he really can't face Julia, walks away, and her father is the one understanding of the situation. Only thing I wanted was for Nucky to know it was him and see him leaving with Tommy in his arms with all the guns on his back.

I tend to wonder if the conflict and then resolution between Chalky and Al was set up for a reason or was just there to be noted since it wouldn't make sense if they all cooperated.

Liked Nuck's reflection on things, thinking of the future, and all of chess moves he made. I almost thought he was gonna let AR off the hook. Seems to me after getting jammed up, Nuck will get the distillery back :lol What appears to be bonding with his brother I guess will hold more importance, and his want to be this no name unrecognizable don is what's good. Make him a ghost and just another guy on the boardwalk is a drastic yet smart move given what the conflict with Gyp has shown him.

Only thing missing from this finale was a touch of Van Alden.
You know...I've been watching this show from season 1 to now - and there are so many of you that are so high on the show - praising it every step of the way and I don't get it. Especially this season.

What has been so special? I felt like most of this season has been a bore. Character development hasn't made things interesting.

The last two episode prior to the finale were done well ,especially the last one. This finale was rather bland aside from the Harrow slaughter house.

The way they killed off Gyp was stupid, anti climatic and without any sort of vengeance which is a major undertone of this show.

I feel like the show has run it's course but season 4 is on the way so there's that. I just refuse to be okay with mediocre television and that's what I feel Boardwalk was for 90% of this season.
Venom, don't even work you're brain over it, just stop watching it.
Pick up a new show more to your tastes, and let us, Kool-Aid drinkers bask in the glory of our show.

I watch plenty of shows. I've invested my time in Boardwalk and it has had its moments but, like I said, this year they have been few and far between in my eyes.

And when I ask the question of what everyone has seen this year to praise it, I'm genuinely curious because I've been watching the show.

Harrow has been the best character on the show and has had longevity. Gyp was okay and probably shouldn't have died - if a season 4 was already planned - which it was - why not keep him alive and fuel the battle with Nucky more. Now you have to introduce a new bad guy.
For me me it's been about the character the development and following these character's journeys. Figuring out how they think and their motivations and getting great pay offs when they're put in certain situations.

I liked that we didn't get a whole lot of the exciting slightly more compelling characters and that we were teased with them throughout this season unlike like the past 2. It seems much more rewarding when Al, Chalky, AR, Lucky, Van Alden, Harrow, etc. do show up. I love that they focus on Nucky and they play the slow game with certain plots just to reveal these clever yet reasonable conclusions to them. The show for me is like a hardy meal, it's why I watch it last after The Walking Dead, Dexter, and Homeland (in that order).

What's special to me is what this show is about, who it focuses on, and how it's executes in telling these stories. It would've been easy as hell to make this an Al Capone or Lucky Luciano centric series and go hard on this being more of a mobster themed show. Instead it goes with the crooked business man that turns to that gangster lifestyle as he goes on his journey struggling to expand and survive. Then we got the made up characters like Jimmy, Harrow, and Van Alden who are all excellent. Plus it seems like Chalky will get his turn and his story will be told next season. The women of the show are great imo. Marge may be boring to yall or may have gotten boring it had a purpose which I felt complimented the story very well while never completely taking over the show.

It would've been lame if Gyp was stretched in to next season as the villain. In that world that's just not how it's going to work especially someone as volatile as him. Even in the end he showed he didn't give a **** really. I see no problem with the writer's having to create a new one not that they need to when they could easily choose one that actually existed.
Van Alden is done or something? His last appearance was getting arrested by the alco cops in the bar he was selling the home made drink right?

So Torrio is officially done since Al said to Nucky "your deal is with me."
They weren't prohibition officers. Didn't you watch the rest of the ep? They were Torio's men cuz Van Alden was selling liquor on his territory. He was brought to Al and questioned, roughed a bit, and it ended with Al saying I wonder what I'm going to do with you. I figure he'll be Al's secret guy on O'Bannon's side as Al rises to power in the Chi.
 
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Oh yeah Gillian on the heroin revealed that Nucky basically pimped her our to the Commodore before she was even a pro. I figured she was just young and got knocked up. That innocent reveal hints that she was a virgin unless the Commodore was a super freak beyond even Gyp.
 
Great finale.
Not just Harrow out the blue blasting Gyp's men away but his ending where he really can't face Julia, walks away, and her father is the one understanding of the situation. Only thing I wanted was for Nucky to know it was him and see him leaving with Tommy in his arms with all the guns on his back.

I also wanted Nucky to know that it was Harrow's work.. this is because I want Harrow to be like a secret weapon working for Nucky.
Great Finale!
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Thanks for the clearup on van den master zik.

Just remembered how great BWE is at foreshadowing. Remember the meeting btw Lucky and Joe in the restaurant? Joe said to Lucky before he left (paraphrasing), "your Jewish partners will stab you in the back because they are not your people." AR @$&! Lucky over in the finale. Great tv!
 
Thanks for the clearup on van den master zik.

Just remembered how great BWE is at foreshadowing. Remember the meeting btw Lucky and Joe in the restaurant? Joe said to Lucky before he left (paraphrasing), "your Jewish partners will stab you in the back because they are not your people." AR @$&! Lucky over in the finale. Great tv!

True, but Meyer is also Jewish and he's Lucky's business partner and frankly saved his *** from being murked in that room.

One thing I don't particularly understand is why Rothstein alienated Lucky and Meyer? What can you possibly gain from that move? With Masseria's entire crew gone, the two of them are basically on their own. Or was he not expecting Masseria to lose all his men?
 
One thing I don't particularly understand is why Rothstein alienated Lucky and Meyer? What can you possibly gain from that move? With Masseria's entire crew gone, the two of them are basically on their own. Or was he not expecting Masseria to lose all his men?
He had to cut the heroin deal with Masseria to get him to pull his men from AC. AR didn't have much else to offer.

Great finale.
 
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