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You cant even argue about Hakeem having help. The second leading scorer on that team (Vernon Maxwell) was putting up 13 ppg
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You cant even argue about Hakeem having help. The second leading scorer on that team (Vernon Maxwell) was putting up 13 ppg
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They are only 6-10. I mean, I know its a shortened season but sheesh let them get to the all star break at least.
What happens if and when they have the same coach, the same roster, and they reel off 5. 6 straight W's? They just need to figure it out, and imo they can.
What happens if and when they have the same coach, the same roster, and they reel off 5. 6 straight W's? They just need to figure it out, and imo they can.
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Didn't know MJ had the flu against the sonics in 96... thats news to me.
And lets be real George Karl is one of the greatest coaches in the history of the league. He's one of the all time leaders in wins and is great at coaching young, raw, talented teams.
By your logic, I guess Jerry Sloan is a bad coach because he never won a chip with 2 of the greatest players of all time.
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Carmelo is a cancer to teams... the NYK and Amare were ballin before Carmelo arrived and now the Nuggets are having a great season without Melo.
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Do you propose some sort of fantasy trade every post?
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Originally Posted by MoonMan818
I'm gonna let cake respond, but this ##*+ right here
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I mean true but they werent in the last 10 15 yrs either. Also as far as what i stated about the criteria for teams, the team they faced in the finals didnt have those elements either. Its debatable by some but the example i gave of great side players, who compliment one another well with 2 h.o.f players would beat this team. sees the bulls had mj not retired. see the bulls losing to the pistons, the celtics, the lakers... it wasnt untill the bulls got those traits i stated that they begin dominance. its why those lakers were able to overcome the kings/blazers those years. its why the one yr the c's beat the lakers... c's had three and a half compared to at times just kobe or at times just pau...Originally Posted by MeloManFan
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You cant even argue about Hakeem having help. The second leading scorer on that team (Vernon Maxwell) was putting up 13 ppg
In todays nba a superstar and some c average players aint gonna win you a chip.
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Originally Posted by MoonMan818
Didn't know MJ had the flu against the sonics in 96... thats news to me.
And lets be real George Karl is one of the greatest coaches in the history of the league. He's one of the all time leaders in wins and is great at coaching young, raw, talented teams.
By your logic, I guess Jerry Sloan is a bad coach because he never won a chip with 2 of the greatest players of all time.
its hard to descredit any coach or player during the jordan and bulls era. I mean but i do see his point about karl. Even gp and jordan yrs later discuss and state that it wouldve been a whole different game had gp guarded him the more in the series. so that would constitute as a badd coaching decision. jerry sloan while i wont say is a good coach, i wont say he is great either. he is well i guess damn good. slightly above good but shy below great.
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Originally Posted by MoonMan818
Didn't know MJ had the flu against the sonics in 96... thats news to me.
And lets be real George Karl is one of the greatest coaches in the history of the league. He's one of the all time leaders in wins and is great at coaching young, raw, talented teams.
By your logic, I guess Jerry Sloan is a bad coach because he never won a chip with 2 of the greatest players of all time.
I typed this in depth !%+ response actually backing up my stance but the yuku is some piss. Bottom line is this... How about you refute the stuff I stated about George Karl since he's such a great coach in your eyes... If he's a great coach explain to me why he's only been out of the 1st round 8x while he's had great, hof talent on his teams at every single destination for the past 20yrs... He's such a great coach but he's been fired 3x's for poor performance... He's such a great coach yet he's constantly blamed his players for his team failing over and over again never taking any blame, but ONLY after they've left. Kemp, Cassell, A.I. Carmelo, Chauncey... So a coach whose been fired by several teams for poor performance/under achievement, whose had #1 seeds lose in the 1st round a couple times, whose had a team with the best overall record in the league at the end of January only to NOT make the playoffs, whose consistently throwing his players under the bus in the media, who consistently fails to draw up out of bounds plays in the final moments of a game consequently costing his teams games is a great coach?!?! As far as his win Lenny Wilkens is the all time winning coach in the NBA and I wouldn't call him a great coach either.
Finally DON'T ever compare George Karl to Jerry Sloan... That's both insulting and disgusting to the game of basketball.
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Who's more clutch than Melo doe?
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uh kobe.....
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durant too...would you rather be clutch on a team that going no where (melo) or stuggle sometimes in the 4th quarter on a team that has potential to win it all (lebron)
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So much truth in this statement. GK has been getting a free pass by blaming everyone else most of his career. He's a decent coach, but he makes a ton of terrible decisions every game and he is a big reason his teams are so up and down. His lineups don't make sense, he plays guys that constantly get outplayed (Rudy, AAA,etc) while solid players that can contribute ride the pine (brewer) and he rarely makes in game adjustments.Originally Posted by Seymore CAKE
Originally Posted by MoonMan818
Didn't know MJ had the flu against the sonics in 96... thats news to me.
And lets be real George Karl is one of the greatest coaches in the history of the league. He's one of the all time leaders in wins and is great at coaching young, raw, talented teams.
By your logic, I guess Jerry Sloan is a bad coach because he never won a chip with 2 of the greatest players of all time.
I typed this in depth !%+ response actually backing up my stance but the yuku is some piss. Bottom line is this... How about you refute the stuff I stated about George Karl since he's such a great coach in your eyes... If he's a great coach explain to me why he's only been out of the 1st round 8x while he's had great, hof talent on his teams at every single destination for the past 20yrs... He's such a great coach but he's been fired 3x's for poor performance... He's such a great coach yet he's constantly blamed his players for his team failing over and over again never taking any blame, but ONLY after they've left. Kemp, Cassell, A.I. Carmelo, Chauncey... So a coach whose been fired by several teams for poor performance/under achievement, whose had #1 seeds lose in the 1st round a couple times, whose had a team with the best overall record in the league at the end of January only to NOT make the playoffs, whose consistently throwing his players under the bus in the media, who consistently fails to draw up out of bounds plays in the final moments of a game consequently costing his teams games is a great coach?!?! As far as his win Lenny Wilkens is the all time winning coach in the NBA and I wouldn't call him a great coach either.
Finally DON'T ever compare George Karl to Jerry Sloan... That's both insulting and disgusting to the game of basketball.
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ive been sayin from the beginning of this season that the Pacers have the best front court in the league with Granger, West and Hibbert. all my friends that are Knicks fans keep saying the Knicks do
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Originally Posted by Seymore CAKE
Originally Posted by MoonMan818
Didn't know MJ had the flu against the sonics in 96... thats news to me.
And lets be real George Karl is one of the greatest coaches in the history of the league. He's one of the all time leaders in wins and is great at coaching young, raw, talented teams.
By your logic, I guess Jerry Sloan is a bad coach because he never won a chip with 2 of the greatest players of all time.
I typed this in depth !%+ response actually backing up my stance but the yuku is some piss. Bottom line is this... How about you refute the stuff I stated about George Karl since he's such a great coach in your eyes... If he's a great coach explain to me why he's only been out of the 1st round 8x while he's had great, hof talent on his teams at every single destination for the past 20yrs... He's such a great coach but he's been fired 3x's for poor performance... He's such a great coach yet he's constantly blamed his players for his team failing over and over again never taking any blame, but ONLY after they've left. Kemp, Cassell, A.I. Carmelo, Chauncey... So a coach whose been fired by several teams for poor performance/under achievement, whose had #1 seeds lose in the 1st round a couple times, whose had a team with the best overall record in the league at the end of January only to NOT make the playoffs, whose consistently throwing his players under the bus in the media, who consistently fails to draw up out of bounds plays in the final moments of a game consequently costing his teams games is a great coach?!?! As far as his win Lenny Wilkens is the all time winning coach in the NBA and I wouldn't call him a great coach either.
Finally DON'T ever compare George Karl to Jerry Sloan... That's both insulting and disgusting to the game of basketball.
Use some paragraphs are something that's terribly hard to read. I'm not even gonna waste my time going back and forth because you are bias and a hater, but you're discrediting a great coach in George Karl. You say don't compare Karl to Sloan but what has Sloan accomplished that Karl hasn't?
I'm not saying George Karl is Phil Jackson, but he's a great motivator, a good teacher, and everywhere he's been, he has been relatively successful.
You don't stick around in this league at coaching for so long if you don't know what you're doing. Let's be real, it's not like he's had a favored team and collapses every year.
BTW he's hasn't been "fired" from a coaching job since the 80s, so stop spitting this hateful nonsense. So at the end of the day, this isn't gonna change your mind, so keep saying all that stupid %!$@ about coach Karl.... One of the best coaches in NBA history.
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Originally Posted by MoonMan818
Originally Posted by Seymore CAKE
Originally Posted by MoonMan818
Didn't know MJ had the flu against the sonics in 96... thats news to me.
And lets be real George Karl is one of the greatest coaches in the history of the league. He's one of the all time leaders in wins and is great at coaching young, raw, talented teams.
By your logic, I guess Jerry Sloan is a bad coach because he never won a chip with 2 of the greatest players of all time.
I typed this in depth !%+ response actually backing up my stance but the yuku is some piss. Bottom line is this... How about you refute the stuff I stated about George Karl since he's such a great coach in your eyes... If he's a great coach explain to me why he's only been out of the 1st round 8x while he's had great, hof talent on his teams at every single destination for the past 20yrs... He's such a great coach but he's been fired 3x's for poor performance... He's such a great coach yet he's constantly blamed his players for his team failing over and over again never taking any blame, but ONLY after they've left. Kemp, Cassell, A.I. Carmelo, Chauncey... So a coach whose been fired by several teams for poor performance/under achievement, whose had #1 seeds lose in the 1st round a couple times, whose had a team with the best overall record in the league at the end of January only to NOT make the playoffs, whose consistently throwing his players under the bus in the media, who consistently fails to draw up out of bounds plays in the final moments of a game consequently costing his teams games is a great coach?!?! As far as his win Lenny Wilkens is the all time winning coach in the NBA and I wouldn't call him a great coach either.
Finally DON'T ever compare George Karl to Jerry Sloan... That's both insulting and disgusting to the game of basketball.
Use some paragraphs are something that's terribly hard to read. I'm not even gonna waste my time going back and forth because you are bias and a hater, but you're discrediting a great coach in George Karl. You say don't compare Karl to Sloan but what has Sloan accomplished that Karl hasn't?
I'm not saying George Karl is Phil Jackson, but he's a great motivator, a good teacher, and everywhere he's been, he has been relatively successful.
You don't stick around in this league at coaching for so long if you don't know what you're doing. Let's be real, it's not like he's had a favored team and collapses every year.
BTW he's hasn't been "fired" from a coaching job since the 80s, so stop spitting this hateful nonsense. So at the end of the day, this isn't gonna change your mind, so keep saying all that stupid %!$@ about coach Karl.... One of the best coaches in NBA history.
Oh so you lack the concentration required to read a paragraph now... Ahhh Ok
Wait so Milwaukee didn't fire him in 03? What are you talking about?
Like I said, refute some of my arguments... Defend his teams flaming out in the first round year after year...
Defend him not drawing up plays to get the ball in during the last seconds of crucial games...
Defend him constantly throwing his former players under the bus, the last of which he was just in interviews before the trade talking about how much he wanted him to come back how great of a player he was how much he loved coaching him how he was one of the greatest players he's ever had only to +!!* on him a week after the trade saying how the team was so much better without him...
Defend him having hall of fame talent for multiple years at each of his coaching stops but his teams rarely ever materializing into a serious contention come playoff time...
As far as him not having favored teams collapse year after year... He's had 2 favored teams lose in the 1st round and one fail to even make the playoffs after having the best overall record at through January. You Name Me Another Great Coach Who Has Had That Happen On His Watch...
These are my arguments against him being "A Great Coach" as you've bestowed upon him. Instead of trolling me, talking about how much I don't know about basketball... Anyone can post animated gifts and attempt to make people laugh... How about trying to defend your stance.
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JR looking all mad lolOriginally Posted by IamDavidRice
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Yeah he does, doesn't help when his teammates feed him the ball and don't take open shots.
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I was at that game. It appeared as if the Nuggets training stagg actually wanted him to sit the rest of the entire game, but he wanted to play and was arguing with their trainer (dude with the weird, predator looking thick dreads) in the hallway of the tunnel then just waved him off and came walking out the tunnel and checked himself back into the game. That was the game AA was like 6/6 from 3 too.
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everybody turning on my dude melo now? coo
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Carmelo is a drama king...vid is hilarious fool hit durants rock abs and gets knocked out
but seriously though, he is a selfish player. Amare gets less shots and he ruins the chemistry in the court for his teammates
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Lmfaooooooooooo @ Kenny Smith saying they played better defense when he was laying on the ground
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lmfa0 ... i remember that game in denver when son just lay on the floor ... i thought he was really hurt ...
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that gif is so ridiculous it looks like a ps