Congrats to LBJ for his 3rd MVP

Originally Posted by Dade B0Y

He's going to win it next year too.

QFT and DPOY too 
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Originally Posted by toine2983

Originally Posted by Maximus Meridius

So now the MVP means nothing??? GTFOHWTBS.
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Yeah Lebron choked last year in the finals so some of the criticism he gets he deserves but to say the award means nothing... Stop it. You can't have that much hate for this man. Dude just won his 3rd MVP and he's not even 30 yrs old yet. This is it for him though he has to get it done now because all these MVP's are adding to the pressure.


I agree with you in that respect.

If the Heat don't win it all, hell if the Heat win it all but LeBron has another disappearing act in the Finals (I don't think they win without LeBron playing at the MVP level he's played at all season so that point is moot anyway) he won't be sniffing another MVP for a long time.


i thought the same exact thing this yr but here he is grabbin another mvp and i couldnt be more disappointed. kd really deserved it this yr. bested lebron in scoring...rpg.. 3pt%.. ft%...and his team had more wins. Its fine tho. we all know where the self proclaimed king will be when its on the line...cowering in a corner somewhere passing the ball like it was burning his hands... not trollin just stating the obvious
 
Its crazy you people hate on Lebron so much, yet you guys walk around in his shoes....
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there is no possible way that if i hated a player as much as you guys do with Lebron, that i would ever EVER put his shoes on my feet. Yet you guys walk around here talking harsh about Bron, yet have his shoes on your feet.....
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Originally Posted by DoubleJs07

One of the most underrated players in the NBA. WELL deserved award.

I think a lot of yall are letting your personal feelings of the man (as far as how he carries himself off the court) cloud any objectivity towards how he actually plays ON the court. At some point you have to separate the two. %+@*, you don't have to like the man as a person, but I'll be damned if I'm gonna sit here and discredit how dominant he was on both ends of the floor this season because of some %*%+@%%* bias.

I've come to realize that no matter what he does, he can't win in the eyes of certain fans. If they get the 'chip this year, folks are gonna throw up *'s because of the shortened season. If he wins another down the road, folks will point to his defection from Cleveland to play with Bosh/Wade (even tho we know he's the best player on that team by FAR) as the only reason why he won. Like I said...he won't be able to win in the eyes of certain fans.

He's the most polarizing athlete in the NBA due to the fact there is little to no objectivity involved in many discussions concerning him.

Did you just call LeBron one of the most underrated players in the NBA? LOL I'm done. Whether they like him or not, most still agree he's the best in the NBA. They just make fun of him because of his multiple choke performances.
 
Originally Posted by caleb4god

Originally Posted by toine2983

Originally Posted by Maximus Meridius

So now the MVP means nothing??? GTFOHWTBS.
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Yeah Lebron choked last year in the finals so some of the criticism he gets he deserves but to say the award means nothing... Stop it. You can't have that much hate for this man. Dude just won his 3rd MVP and he's not even 30 yrs old yet. This is it for him though he has to get it done now because all these MVP's are adding to the pressure.


I agree with you in that respect.

If the Heat don't win it all, hell if the Heat win it all but LeBron has another disappearing act in the Finals (I don't think they win without LeBron playing at the MVP level he's played at all season so that point is moot anyway) he won't be sniffing another MVP for a long time.


i thought the same exact thing this yr but here he is grabbin another mvp and i couldnt be more disappointed. kd really deserved it this yr. bested lebron in scoring...rpg.. 3pt%.. ft%...and his team had more wins. Its fine tho. we all know where the self proclaimed king will be when its on the line...cowering in a corner somewhere passing the ball like it was burning his hands... not trollin just stating the obvious
no, you're trolling.
 
Originally Posted by shatterkneesinc

not 2-3

he needs 4-5 rings to be consider top 5 of all time
forget about chasing jordan. he cant even surpass (yet?) the 3 big of the past decade, duncan shaq and kobe.

When it's all said and done, who will match his reg. season accolades outside of MJ? Lebron will end up with 5-6 MVPs, 1-2 DPOYs, 10+ first team all-nba and defense. That's jordan-like. 2-3 rings will put him in the top 2-3, but he will most likely have more than that anyways. 
 
This should be more incentive for KD to step it up, to win it all and Finals MVP.
The NBA has to many politics nowadays. 
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Lebron is a great player, but I guess three straight scoring titles means nothing anymore.......
 
Originally Posted by shatterkneesinc

not 2-3

he needs 4-5 rings to be consider top 5 of all time
forget about chasing jordan. he cant even surpass (yet?) the 3 big of the past decade, duncan shaq and kobe.

QFT
You can not mention him among the greats until he wins 3 championships minimum. 
 
Originally Posted by cmoneymontana

This should be more incentive for KD to step it up, to win it all and Finals MVP.
The NBA has to many politics nowadays. 
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Lebron is a great player, but I guess three straight scoring titles means nothing anymore.......

B/c KD's job is to score. LBJ's job is to score, defend, and create plays for his teammates. If LBJ can just focus mostly on scoring like KD does, he probably would average 35 points on 22-23 shots. 
 
Originally Posted by durantula

Originally Posted by DoubleJs07

One of the most underrated players in the NBA. WELL deserved award.

I think a lot of yall are letting your personal feelings of the man (as far as how he carries himself off the court) cloud any objectivity towards how he actually plays ON the court. At some point you have to separate the two. %+@*, you don't have to like the man as a person, but I'll be damned if I'm gonna sit here and discredit how dominant he was on both ends of the floor this season because of some %*%+@%%* bias.

I've come to realize that no matter what he does, he can't win in the eyes of certain fans. If they get the 'chip this year, folks are gonna throw up *'s because of the shortened season. If he wins another down the road, folks will point to his defection from Cleveland to play with Bosh/Wade (even tho we know he's the best player on that team by FAR) as the only reason why he won. Like I said...he won't be able to win in the eyes of certain fans.

He's the most polarizing athlete in the NBA due to the fact there is little to no objectivity involved in many discussions concerning him.

Did you just call LeBron one of the most underrated players in the NBA? LOL I'm done. Whether they like him or not, most still agree he's the best in the NBA. They just make fun of him because of his multiple choke performances.
Definitely not underrated, more like under appreciated.
 
Originally Posted by nyk buc

Originally Posted by cmoneymontana

This should be more incentive for KD to step it up, to win it all and Finals MVP.
The NBA has to many politics nowadays. 
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Lebron is a great player, but I guess three straight scoring titles means nothing anymore.......

B/c KD's job is to score. LBJ's job is to score, defend, and create plays for his teammates. If LBJ can just focus mostly on scoring like KD does, he probably would average 35 points on 22-23 shots. 
I guess Durant does not play any defense. 
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Originally Posted by WhatsLosinLike

Originally Posted by caleb4god

Originally Posted by toine2983



I agree with you in that respect.

If the Heat don't win it all, hell if the Heat win it all but LeBron has another disappearing act in the Finals (I don't think they win without LeBron playing at the MVP level he's played at all season so that point is moot anyway) he won't be sniffing another MVP for a long time.


i thought the same exact thing this yr but here he is grabbin another mvp and i couldnt be more disappointed. kd really deserved it this yr. bested lebron in scoring...rpg.. 3pt%.. ft%...and his team had more wins. Its fine tho. we all know where the self proclaimed king will be when its on the line...cowering in a corner somewhere passing the ball like it was burning his hands... not trollin just stating the obvious
no, you're trolling.


how is my opinion trolling? i gave my argument... so be it. i didnt agree with steve nashs mvp when kobe scored 36 ppg on a %!$+ lakers team. It is what it is. dont act like the "king" has been clutch when its all on the line cuz hes the furthest thing from it and that is a proven fact time and time again. lets go thunder!
 
Originally Posted by cmoneymontana

Originally Posted by nyk buc

Originally Posted by cmoneymontana

This should be more incentive for KD to step it up, to win it all and Finals MVP.
The NBA has to many politics nowadays. 
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Lebron is a great player, but I guess three straight scoring titles means nothing anymore.......

B/c KD's job is to score. LBJ's job is to score, defend, and create plays for his teammates. If LBJ can just focus mostly on scoring like KD does, he probably would average 35 points on 22-23 shots. 
I guess Durant does not play any defense. 
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I never said that. I said on his team, he's not asked to stop anybody. He plays defense, but he's not OKC's anchor. His main role on OKC's is to score the ball. 
LBJ's is the best on his own team at scoring/rebounding/defending/playmaking -> basically he anchors everything the Heat does offensively and defensively.

It's good if you watch some basketball and know the role of the players first. 
 
Originally Posted by UnchartedDrake

Its crazy you people hate on Lebron so much, yet you guys walk around in his shoes....
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there is no possible way that if i hated a player as much as you guys do with Lebron, that i would ever EVER put his shoes on my feet. Yet you guys walk around here talking harsh about Bron, yet have his shoes on your feet.....
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Originally Posted by nyk buc

Originally Posted by cmoneymontana

Originally Posted by nyk buc


B/c KD's job is to score. LBJ's job is to score, defend, and create plays for his teammates. If LBJ can just focus mostly on scoring like KD does, he probably would average 35 points on 22-23 shots. 
I guess Durant does not play any defense. 
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What am I missing? 
I never said that. I said on his team, he's not asked to stop anybody. He plays defense, but he's not OKC's anchor. His main role on OKC's is to score the ball. 
LBJ's is the best on his own team at scoring/rebounding/defending/playmaking -> basically he anchors everything the Heat does offensively and defensively.

It's good if you watch some basketball and know the role of the players first. 
So I guess whenever the Heat play the Thunder, Durant is not asked to play Lebron......
Its all opinions, because when Lebron goes another season without a championship, the people lined up to give excuses will be ridiculous.

If Lebron a had descent PG, his assists and and amount of playmaking would not be needed as much.

I'm not taking anything away from him, but he was not deserving of the MVP award this year. 
 
Originally Posted by Rolaholic

So many hurt feelings in this thread


highway robbery will hurt ur feelings sometimes. could you imagine if jordan was 10 seasons in without one championship? the love for a man who chokes and hides in the biggest moments astounds me but good luck to u heat fans regardless.
 
Originally Posted by caleb4god

Originally Posted by Rolaholic

So many hurt feelings in this thread


highway robbery will hurt ur feelings sometimes. could you imagine if jordan was 10 seasons in without one championship? the love for a man who chokes and hides in the biggest moments astounds me.
I am still trying to figure that out. Barkley, Ewing, and Malone never got defended as much. 
 
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