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[IATT]

oh come on, this doesn't even need to be asked

if you're questioning that then you are definitely just nitpicking to nitpick

Being facetious given what was said.. but it all was poorly executed given the task at hand and what was trying to be portrayed

 

[rfx45]

nah, it was fine

it's just that people nitpick it to death instead of watching it for what it is

i mean who watches that montage and go, "why is he working out now, for the first time ever, he's just gon' be sore the next day"

i go workout and run all the time and my brother is a personal trainer and we saw it at the same time and that thought never even entered our mind

 

[KingParappa]

Thought never crossed my mind. It totally reads as a "I STILL GOT IT" scene.

 

[IATT]

^ I agree it is what it is.. but my point is dude is still doing this to go up against superman

This ain't rocky training to go up against Ivan drago

Show dude using his detective skills and learning about dude.. show him using his brain to concoct that armor and the weapons and strategize a plan

 

[KingParappa]

Yeah they slacked on his detective skills but if they went that way, they wouldn't have fought at all. If Lois Lane could figure out who Superman was, The World's Greatest Detective would have as well. And he would have deduced that he was a well meaning guy. The Batman we got is off the rails. He's not thinking straight when it comes to Superman. That's why they had him say that 1% line. He's unhinged!

 

[IATT]

^ you get what you pay for

 

[rfx45]

again they showed that but they can't diagram the whole thing because as you can see when they fought, his only real plan was the smoke kryptonite and sphere

if you want to complain on what else he could have done, that is fine but really, the workout? that is your main focus?

there are a million things to nitpick and valid complaints about the film but you pick the one that is really so minute and not a big deal

it's like you have a tunnel vision on it and the discussion shouldn't even last more than a few posts but you'll keep insisting on it

like dude wants to workout, let him

does he really need alfred saying "master bruce, so uh, you're working out to make sure you have no pains and aches" and then bruce replies, "no, just my routine"

? ? ?

let me dig into this deeper if it'll settle this...

you prepare as much as you can and however your body pertains

two days before my i ran a 5k, 10k and half marathon back to back to back, i still ran my usual 5-10 miles and i did just fine in the run, had i taken a break a week or two break, i'd probably injure myself because my body isn't used to breaks or unusually long break at least

you want your body to be consistent and comfortable if you've been working out the same routine, it won't affect you as much if at all in the long run

as a matter of fact, when i miss a routine, it almost feels itchy and i get antsy and uncomfortable because your body craves it

 

[IATT]

Literally within the first thing I said on this:

would have much rathered seen dude using his head to investigate everything about dude, but Snyder

Could have built up to a justice league doom movie, because of bats discovering supes weakness in what should have just been man of steel 2 with bats in it

 

[KingParappa]

Man I don't even like the movie

 

[blastercombo]

Lol my goodness. The movie was bad. You have to nitpick to make it sound remotely coherent. Batman himself didn’t like the movie, literally Ben Aflack.

But whatever, I’ve wasted a lot of time discussing BVS. No offense to anyone here in particular, just saying.

 

[rfx45]

and did you follow up with 5-6 post about the workout nitpicking it?

its literally a 2 minutes scene of him working out that bothered you so much and wanting him to his preparation of his gadgets but not prep to his body

last i'll say on this but look at what he did against supes, the sonic surprise with machine gun, smoke bullet and sphere

they showed how he found out about the kryptonite, how he stole it and how carved it to a sphere (and made casing for the smoke?)

what else would could they have showed? a montage of him making the armor? i mean it's not an iron man suit, it's practically padding for impact protection

want him to tinker on the sonic gun and lose that surprise? want to show him sharpening the sphere? want him to put a bullet in the gun one at a time in slow mo?

again if the complaint is he should have done more, many would agree with you ( i could think of hundreds of other thing she could have done, hell even get some scenes from the book itself) but with the context of the film and what little bats did, they showed as much they could

if they dragged that prep time further then people would complain its useless because it slowed the film down further

 

[IATT]

let me dig into this deeper if it'll settle this...

you prepare as much as you can and however your body pertains

two days before my i ran a 5k, 10k and half marathon back to back to back, i still ran my usual 5-10 miles and i did just fine in the run, had i taken a break a week or two break, i'd probably injure myself because my body isn't used to breaks or unusually long break at least

you want your body to be consistent and comfortable if you've been working out the same routine, it won't affect you as much if at all in the long run

as a matter of fact, when i miss a routine, it almost feels itchy and i get antsy and uncomfortable because your body craves it

'Taper' doesn't mean skip practice or not train at all

For example, in football during the summer we would have 2 and 3 a days with weight training everyday.. during the season we had practice once a day with weight training just before.. come the postseason we had practice every other day with weight training in between
- what we did in those practices changed as the season went on.. what we did in the weight room changed

For track and swimming, we cut down on yardage and practices (going from 2 a days to just 1 a days) and alternative training and towards states we cut weights all together

 

[rfx45]

The movie was bad. You have to nitpick to make it sound remotely coherent.

and i think that is one underlying issue, it was already so bad with millions of problems and some still do not want to even understand a simple and single scene and why it was done

it's tunnel vision and no matter how much you explain, it's "no workout, not necessary, he shouldn't, etc..."

 

[paulwest1985]

Yeah they slacked on his detective skills but if they went that way, they wouldn't have fought at all!

This statement is fundamentally false. Batman was able to deduce:

- that a giant fragment of kryptonite was found off of the Indian Ocean
- that it was being transported on a ship named the White Portuguese
-that KGBeast was the man who was involved in transporting the kryptonite to Luthor
-Luthor was in possession of that kryptonite
-how to weaponize said kryptonite
- Doomsday could only be killed with a kryptonian weapon

There's lots more, but this is what I could think of off the top of my head.

 

[rfx45]

'Taper' doesn't mean skip practice or not train at all

For example, in football during the summer we would have 2 and 3 a days with weight training everyday.. during the season we had practice once a day with weight training just before.. come the postseason we had practice every other day with weight training in between
- what we did in those practices changed as the season went on.. what we did in the weight room changed

For track and swimming, we cut down on yardages and practices (going from 2 a days to just 1 a days) and alternative training and towards states we cut weights all together

yeah and how do you know what else he has been doing?

there isn't calendar there that says "i am working for the first time in years"

for someone who has knowledge with workout routines, it seems difficult for you to understand this

AGAIN and literally for the last time i promise, it's one scene they showed, we don't know the frequency he does it and it is to show that he is still fit in his age and not fat (some say he looked fat int eh suit) but at the end of the day it is a billionaire who dresses up as bat at night to fight crime, you can let this one go for gods sake

go ahead and have the last word so we can put a close in this because it's really just ridiculous at this point

 

[KingParappa]

This statement is fundamentally false. Batman was able to deduce:

- that a giant fragment of kryptonite was found off of the Indian Ocean
- that it was being transported on a ship named the White Portuguese
-that KGBeast was the man who was involved in transporting the kryptonite to Luthor
-Luthor was in possession of that kryptonite
-how to weaponize said kryptonite
- Doomsday could only be killed with a kryptonian weapon

There's lots more, but this is what I could think of off the top of my head.

You got me there.

 

[IATT]

yeah and how do you know what else he has been doing?

there isn't calendar there that says "i am working for the first time in years"

for someone who has knowledge with workout routines, it seems difficult for you to understand this

AGAIN and literally for the last time i promise, it's one scene they showed, we don't know the frequency he does it but at the end of the day it is a billionaire who dresses up as bat at night to fight crime, you can let this one go for gods sake

go ahead and have the last word so we can put a close in this because it's really just ridiculous at this point

Not sure what exactly I'm not understanding, I literally said it in my first post

Yes, it is what it is.. and it is a poorly done and written movie.. again, as I said above and several times, I would have much rathered them show that billionaire use his brain than watch him do crossfit

 

[paulwest1985]

Snyder fundamentally doesn't understand Batman.

Again another false statement. You speak as if there is only ONE interpretation of Batman/Bruce Wayne. There are literally hundreds. So no, i'm not buying that at all. The core element of Batman is that his parents were killed in front of him when he was young. And event caused him to don the cowl when got older. As far as i'm concerned that element was portrayed in BVS. Got any more nit picks??

 

[blastercombo]

and i think that is one underlying issue, it was already so bad with millions of problems and some still do not want to even understand a simple and single scene and why it was done

it's tunnel vision and no matter how much you explain, it's "no workout, not necessary, he shouldn't, etc..."

No, I can pick out maybe 2-3 things in the movie that are fine but those things literally stand all alone in a sea of suck. Now, the question is are you going to take those parts and act as if the rest of the lead up or reason for it vexing there don’t exist or are you going to take it as a whole? In a complete stand alone, no questions asked, no need to explanation or reason sense YES the pre fight montage is fine. The problem is once you actually stack it up to the rest of the movie, the reasoning behind it, and the message it’s giving it makes little to no sense. Yes you can “reverse nit pick” (is that even a word?) to make it have actual effect by injecting your background knowledge in the character, and I guess CrossFit lol, but understand that the directed intent had nothing to do with that. I might as well was Leto’s joker was sooo good because he was symbolism for Jesus haha.


In any case, agree to disagree

 

[rfx45]

i don't know why i do it, i must be a masochist

Not sure what exactly I'm not understanding, I literally said it in my first post

Yes, it is what it is.. and it is a poorly done and written movie.. again, as I said above and several times, I would have much rathered them show that billionaire use his brain than watch him do crossfit

nice try but you say this...

Literally within the first thing I said on this:

would have much rathered seen dude using his head to investigate everything about dude, but Snyder

Could have built up to a justice league doom movie, because of bats discovering supes weakness in what should have just been man of steel 2 with bats in it

but you conveniently removed the part that is being discussed, part that even came from what you declared was the "first thing" you said

Exactly and dude is tactical.. we've see elements but it not all put together.. TDK being the best best of all worlds we've seen on screen


But having that training montage was super weak when you realize dudes training to go fight supes.. would have much rathered seen dude using his head to investigate everything about dude, but Snyder


Could have built up to a justice league doom movie, because of bats discovering supes weakness in what should have just been man of steel 2 with bats in it

 

[rfx45]

No, I can pick out maybe 2-3 things in the movie that are fine but those things literally stand all alone in a sea of suck. Now, the question is are you going to take those parts and act as if the rest of the lead up or reason for it vexing there don’t exist or are you going to take it as a whole? In a complete stand alone, no questions asked, no need to explanation or reason sense YES the pre fight montage is fine. The problem is once you actually stack it up to the rest of the movie, the reasoning behind it, and the message it’s giving it makes little to no sense. Yes you can “reverse nit pick” (is that even a word?) to make it have actual effect by injecting your background knowledge in the character, and I guess CrossFit lol, but understand that the directed intent had nothing to do with that. I might as well was Leto’s joker was sooo good because he was symbolism for Jesus haha.


In any case, agree to disagree

it is overthinking if you really nitpick a workout montage and start putting reason why he shouldn't be doing it

as a whole, it is a minor thing in comparison to the other things you can complain about

 

[IATT]

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but you conveniently removed the part that is being discussed, part that even came from what you declared was the "first thing" you said

Because it was the only thing being focused on as if it wasnt an example used in response to something said.. and removing what I said after, which is why I quoted specifically that

Literally go read what I responded to.. put it in that context

 

[KingParappa]

ZACK SNYDER SUGGESTS DEAD ROBIN IN BATMAN V SUPERMAN WAS **** GRAYSON
http://www.ign.com/articles/2018/04...robin-in-batman-v-superman-was-****-grayson-2

In an exchange on Vero (thanks, Batman News) Snyder responded to a fan asking about the scene with the sentence "what makes you think that's Jason Todd", going on to point out how much "darker" this would make the character, having lost the first sidekick he ever recruited.

 

[rfx45]

read the replies, i already explained why your complaint wasn't valid in the "context" of the film

again if your complaint is lack of something that wasn't in the film, that was fine but you're not trying to see that

not sure how many times it's gon be said that what bats did in his fight was shown and prepped for outside of one or two "surprises"

then you want the 2 minute montage removed for more prep for the little things he did on that fight

 

[paulwest1985]

Lol my goodness. The movie was bad. You have to nitpick to make it sound remotely coherent. Batman himself didn’t like the movie, literally Ben Aflack.

But whatever, I’ve wasted a lot of time discussing BVS. No offense to anyone here in particular, just saying.

Just because YOU didn't understand the movie and have to have it broken down further in order for you to ingest it says more about you rather than said movie.