DC Studios THREAD - GunnVerse Begins - The Penguin out 9/19 then every Sunday on MAX

[paulwest1985]

No disdain. Just stating facts.


Sure

Yeah because when Superman saves the world the only way to do it is murder via neck snapping.

Ok, i have some time today.


General Zod: "There's only one way this ends, Kal. Either you die, or I do."



I have yet to hear you or anyone else who had a problem with that scene provide a safer alternative for superman to accomplish. The man literally said he was going to kill everyone on the planet and you want superman to come to a peaceful resolution.........how is that possible? And why do you keep saying murder? Superman didn't murder anyone, he successfully defended the planet from invaders.

 

[kickvicisous]

Just wish we could of seen some anguish or some difficulty of Clark trying to comprehend the taking of a life, not to mention one of his own people. He got over it pretty quickly

 

[KingParappa]

Colin Farrell Says The Penguin Doesn't Have a Big Role in THE BATMAN, But He Will Have "Some Tasty Scenes" — GeekTyrant

A lot of fans believed that with Colin Ferrell taking on the role of The Penguin in Matt Reeves ’ The Batman the character would have a big role in the story. Well, it turns out that the villain might not have as big a role as we thought. During a recent interview, Farrell shared a bit of inf

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[vegetaray123]

I say release it...If anything just to see the response when it turns out to be even worse than what actually released...Kidding...

In all seriousness though...Why not just release it...If it makes even one of these people clamoring for it happy then so be it...Completely uninterested in revisiting it outside of a curiosity standpoint but people are just going to keep going on about it forever otherwise...

 

[polosanddunks]

Just want it to be released and be trash so we can put it to rest forever.

 

[paulwest1985]

The year 2020 is something else........

It's not for me ( I can't have everything ) but if some people out there see it and enjoy it, cool...

It's interesting that critics are trying to play the victim and calling snyder fans toxic. Considering they (fans) helped raise over $200k towards suicide prevention charitys in honor of his daughter. And are passionate about getting this film released because they (fans) felt like WB did him dirty. I don't see whats toxic about that.

 

[kickvicisous]

I thought it wasn't even finished

 

[Master Zik]

Ok, i have some time today.


General Zod: "There's only one way this ends, Kal. Either you die, or I do."

Yes because listening to what lying villains say based on their immoral values is what heroes are suppose to do.

Just take Zod's word for it.

If this were the case Batman would've killed Joker the second time he faced him.

I have yet to hear you or anyone else who had a problem with that scene provide a safer alternative for superman to accomplish.

THIS IS A LIE.

YOU ARE A LIAR.

Not only did I provide alternatives, a bunch of other ppl did as well.

You gotta be stupid to believe Superman only had two choices in that scenario.

I think you need to go back to page 1 of this thread or grave dig the MoS thread or google an answer if you're still pretending what Zach Snyder cooked up was the only way it could go down.

Gouged Zod's eyes out, ice breath his entire head, donkey punch him in the back of his neck, simply jump in the path of the heat vision, etc.

how is that possible?

Superman is perfectly capable of finding solutions to threats without relying on murder and destruction. He's done it countless times before.

Superman didn't murder anyone, he successfully defended the planet from invaders.

It's murder. Especially given the situation and his powers.

 

[shogun]

Hold up, so ripping his eyes out or freezing his head is way better than snapping his neck? Those things would probably also kill him, just not instantly. zod didn't seem like a guy who will stop unless you put him down. If given a few minutes to think about it, ripping off his arms and legs then laser vision melting his genitals might work. It seems more cruel than just killing him though.

 

[paulwest1985]

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[kickvicisous]

A super powered donkey punch sounds hilarious

 

[Master Zik]

Hold up, so ripping his eyes out or freezing his head is way better than snapping his neck?

Yes. Its not like either of those things kill him.

Those things would probably also kill him

No.

You definitely can live without your eyeballs. Tons of ppl without them are alive and thriving today. There's no slow death if you lose your eyes

Zod is a kryptonian. So a flash freeze of his head wouldn't kill him. Its just a temporary measure to stop him from killing civilians. He'd break out of it or use his heat vision to thaw it out within minutes if not seconds.

The goal is simply options other than killing to stop Zod in that instance.

I mean there are still more options. Supes could've done a concentrated strike to Zod's spine which would paralyze him.

He could've shook Zod's brain super fast making his brain bounce around his skull and gave him CTE, brain swelling, and most likely brain damage.

He could've simply punched/pushed his head down through the floor.

He could've done a thunderclap right next to Zod's ear stopping the heat vision instantly.

He could've yelled at those civilians to run instead of watching them cower in the corner.

He could've stopped pretending like he didn't have Zod in a headlock and couldn't simply pull his head upwards. Cuz if you rewatch the scene he does pull his head in the opposite direction right before he snaps his neck.

So many ways.

 

[paulwest1985]

Yes because listening to what lying villains say based on their immoral values is what heroes are suppose to do.

Just take Zod's word for it.

If this were the case Batman would've killed Joker the second time he faced him.

What did Zod lie about? Not once did Zod tell a lie in MOS. He was honest and upfront with his intentions the whole time. And quite frankly, if someone on your same power level tells you he is going to kill you and everyone else on the planet are you not supposed to take that threat seriously?? Mind you, you've seen what kind of destruction and death he's capable of up close and personal. Come on brah! you grasping at straws now.

THIS IS A LIE.

YOU ARE A LIAR.

Not only did I provide alternatives, a bunch of other ppl did as well.

You gotta be stupid to believe Superman only had two choices in that scenario.

I think you need to go back to page 1 of this thread or grave dig the MoS thread or google an answer if you're still pretending what Zach Snyder cooked up was the only way it could go down.

Gouged Zod's eyes out, ice breath his entire head, donkey punch him in the back of his neck, simply jump in the path of the heat vision, etc.

I'm well aware of what you and others have said about this. And I still stand by my statement.


1.) Gouge his eyes out? Ok, you permanently neutralize him from using optical beams. Then what? He's still mobile and able to continue to cause death and destruction.

2.) Use ice breath on his head? This is superman's first day on the job. How would he know how to use ice breath if he's never used it before?

3.) Donkey punch him in the back of the neck? Nope, can't work. As soon as he removes one arm that family is dead

4.) Jump in the way of the heat vision? Again, if he moves that family is dead.

Again, none of those scenarios are realistic for the predicament he was in. Because if you go with even one of those options you cause another person to needlessly die.

Superman is perfectly capable of finding solutions to threats without relying on murder and destruction. He's done it countless times before.

Your destruction agreement doesn't hold any weight because to assert that superman caused the death and destruction he himself would have had to be the one who invaded earth. Never mind the fact that Zod and the kryptonians unleashed a dual world engine on Metropolis and the South Indian Ocean. Never mind the fact that they tried to terraform the earth. Never mind the fact that Zod crashed the genesis chamber in the middle of Metropolis. Never mind the fact that Zod threw a Wayne enterprise satellite at superman and it ended up crash landing on Metropolis. And never mind the fact that Zod trapped a family with the intention of killing them. But yea, lets blame superman for all that destruction.

It's murder. Especially given the situation and his powers.

What was premeditated about superman killing Zod in order to stop his killing spree?

 

[Master Zik]

What did Zod lie about?

I'm establishing the fact that villains lie and are untrustworthy/immoral and heroes should not be taking their advice or suggestions when they're in the midst of destroying the planet.

To say Superman should take Zod's word that he has to kill him to stop him is stupid nonsense. Its super lazy reasoning

I'm well aware of what you and others have said about this. And I still stand by my statement.

So you are a liar.

If you really got time got back and read those MoS arguments.

You not gonna waste my time trying to get me to repeat myself.

Zik from 2013 and onward if you want those answers.

1.) Gouge his eyes out? Ok, you permanently neutralize him from using optical beams. Then what? He's still mobile and able to continue to cause death and destruction.

Yes because Zod is so use to being blind, so use to that pain that things would be no different if he had eyes

2.) Use ice breath on his head? This is superman's first day on the job. How would he know how to use ice breath if he's never used it before?

This is an assumption that he doesnt know how to do it.

That's like if i said Superman should've just grabbed him and flew him up in the sky and then you saying how does Superman know he can fly.

Lets be serious.

Mans spent decades as a bum wandering the world. He got acquainted with his powerset.

3.) Donkey punch him in the back of the neck? Nope, can't work. As soon as he removes one arm that family is dead

No they aren't.

Supes was playing around holding his head as Zod slowly turned to that family. He not only had the time to punch him but with his arm around his neck he could've also just headbutted his face in to the floor.

4.) Jump in the way of the heat vision? Again, if he moves that family is dead.

Yeah cuz Superman cant move at super speed.

Your destruction agreement doesn't hold any weight because to assert that superman caused the death and destruction he himself would have had to be the one who invaded earth.

What the **** are you talking about here?

Nothing in this sentence makes any sense.

What destruction argument? What are you talking about?

The statement is Superman is capable of finding solutions to threats (Zod) without relying on murder and destruction.

Do you know what that means? I'm basically saying Superman can stop bad guys without killing them. Even super powered bad guys.

What was premeditated about superman killing Zod in order to stop his killing spree?

Rewatch the movie and that entire fight scene while you're also looking for the thread to the other ways Superman could've stopped Zod.

Maybe you'll figure it out.

You're boring me with the made up **** and close minded there was no other way reasoning.

 

[IATT]

The year 2020 is something else........

It's not for me ( I can't have everything ) but if some people out there see it and enjoy it, cool...

not sure why this is a big deal..

if they have the content, why not let it happen

only issue I’d have, is if Snyder were going touch on more stuff that would be used in the future and potential screw with future content.. cause ain’t like you going make bank off of that

 

[paulwest1985]

I'm establishing the fact that villains lie and are untrustworthy/immoral and heroes should not be taking their advice or suggestions when they're in the midst of destroying the planet.

To say Superman should take Zod's word that he has to kill him to stop him is stupid nonsense. Its super lazy reasoning



So you are a liar.

If you really got time got back and read those MoS arguments.

You not gonna waste my time trying to get me to repeat myself.

Zik from 2013 and onward if you want those answers.


Yes because Zod is so use to being blind, so use to that pain that things would be no different if he had eyes


This is an assumption that he doesnt know how to do it.

That's like if i said Superman should've just grabbed him and flew him up in the sky and then you saying how does Superman know he can fly.

Lets be serious.

Mans spent decades as a bum wandering the world. He got acquainted with his powerset.


No they aren't.

Supes was playing around holding his head as Zod slowly turned to that family. He not only had the time to punch him but with his arm around his neck he could've also just headbutted his face in to the floor.




Yeah cuz Superman cant move at super speed.


What the **** are you talking about here?

Nothing in this sentence makes any sense.

What destruction argument? What are you talking about?

The statement is Superman is capable of finding solutions to threats (Zod) without relying on murder and destruction.

Do you know what that means? I'm basically saying Superman can stop bad guys without killing them. Even super powered bad guys.



Rewatch the movie and that entire fight scene while you're also looking for the thread to the other ways Superman could've stopped Zod.

Maybe you'll figure it out.

You're boring me with the made up **** and close minded there was no other way reasoning.

You said all that and you still have no leg to stand on. You are projecting your own insecurities on superman. To say that you didn't like this aspect of a movie because he didn't do what you would have done is juvenile. You need to get over the fact that this is not YOUR superman. No matter how much you b**** about it, superman killed in MOS and he has killed in past comics and movies. IF you want a pure wholesome portrait of supes go rewatch the Donner superman.

 

[Master Zik]

You said all that and you still have no leg to stand on.

I'm convinced you're not reading anything and just trolling now

You are projecting your own insecurities on superman.

Yup. Mid grade trolling

*YAWN*

To say that you didn't like this aspect of a movie because he didn't do what you would have done is juvenile

The movie wasn't good.

Zack Snyder isnt a good director..

You're the one that wanted to go back down this road again cuz you clearly have some unresolved issues with liking trash movies and piss poor directors like Snyder.

To say this is about what I wanted to happen is complete and utter bull ****. I've been over this too many times and you're boring me with this.

I don't even like Superman. I just got the common sense to know the basics about the character and from a storytelling perspective these decisions are even more glaring.

You need to get over the fact that this is not YOUR superman.

I don't have a Superman

You must've really forgot who you're talking to

To be clear I'm saying Snyder's Superman is trash. Mos and BvS is the evidence.

No matter how much you b**** about it

Only person *****ing about anything is YOU.

For some reason YOU cant let this go. I find it hilarious that you would talk about projecting insecurities. You must've typed that looking in a mirror.

You'd be better off ignoring my posts if you don't like my opinions on trash movies and directors. Cuz none of that close minded bull **** you spewing even registers. Just a bunch of subpar arguments with no good points.

superman killed in MOS and he has killed in past comics and movies.

And the movie wasn't good.

Pretending like Superman killed in the comics have anything to do with what Snyder did is pathetic.

You wish he was good enough to craft a story like Injustice.

IF you want a pure wholesome portrait of supes go rewatch the Donner superman.

Don't want that **** either.

 

[KingParappa]

The Writer of BATMAN & ROBIN Apologizes For The Film Saying "We Didn't Mean For It To Be Bad" — GeekTyrant

There was a huge shift in tone and quality in the Batman film franchise when director Joel Schumacher replaced Tim Burton as the director of those films. That shift in tone, style, and quality, was not a good one! A lot of fans did not like those movies and the writer of Batman & Robin

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[rfx45]

well at least he admits the phallic shapes arent an accident

 

[Mark Antony]

Sons of Anarchy, Pacific Rim, Triple Frontier
He had a ton of screen time on SoA and his acting legit annoyed me

Later seasons of SOA he didn't even try to hide his accent.

 

[paulwest1985]

OH S***!!!!!!! Henry cavil just joined zack's MOS stream!!!!!

 

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[ny mavurs]

Just seen Joker for the first time

It was mediocre