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kal was dumb as hell for jumping in front of lex when doomsday was about to punch him into mush. Dude kidnapped your mom and is about to have her killed.
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kal was dumb as hell for jumping in front of lex when doomsday was about to punch him into mush. Dude kidnapped your mom and is about to have her killed.
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in a city where a good chunk of criminals are probably stopped by batman, why is going to jail with a bat brand a death sentence? wouldnt these criminals be like "i know the feel bro".
other than being a lazy way to make batman seem more ruthless of course
other than being a lazy way to make batman seem more ruthless of course
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U have dudes here hating the 'no killing rule' in the DD thread but now hate batfleck for killing...haha
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I know we're totally left filling in the gaps because of the writing of this film, but I don't think Supes needed to tell him to stop killing. We're totally left in the dark on anything he's done in the past 20 years, so it could be literally ANYTHING that clicks to him to not kill Lex.Based on the line that Alfred dropped, I'm just guessing he wasn't always this way. So maybe he's reverting back to not killing (as much?).
But I see what you're saying, "how could he want to 'avenge' his death when he barely knows him?" Well, if he's attending Clark's funeral in Smallville I'm just going to guess (again!) that he's got to know more about Clark from Martha Kent and Lois Lane...
In regards to Supes killing people...he killed a terrorist who was holding a gun to Lois's head...ain't even mad at him for that
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yeah, just like the movie, you have me all figured out
Clown.
I don't care to defend the movie, I liked it, that's what that matters. Did I love it? Of course not, it's all over the place and full of plot holes. Not enough to make me hate it and go on some internet crusade to nit pick it do death and shove my opinion down everyone's throat like you.
People like you have to be insufferable irl
constantly repeating the same tired points over and over again. Just look at your post history in here compared to everyone else. Definition of a try hard. You got cats in here blocking you because of how annoying you are.Numerous posts breaking down my nonsensical points
Break them down then, I'm sure you have nothing better to do.
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yeah, just like the movie, you have me all figured out
Clown.
I don't care to defend the movie, I liked it, that's what that matters. Did I love it? Of course not, it's all over the place and full of plot holes. Not enough to make me hate it and go on some internet crusade to nit pick it do death and shove my opinion down everyone's throat like you.
People like you have to be insufferable irl
Numerous posts breaking down my nonsensical points
Break them down then, I'm sure you have nothing better to do.
This fella is irked fersure
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This dude still at it 
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it's just so lazy and bad to write a story that makes no sense and expect fans to create their own reasons to why this story makes senseI know we're totally left filling in the gaps because of the writing of this film, but I don't think Supes needed to tell him to stop killing. We're totally left in the dark on anything he's done in the past 20 years, so it could be literally ANYTHING that clicks to him to not kill Lex.Based on the line that Alfred dropped, I'm just guessing he wasn't always this way. So maybe he's reverting back to not killing (as much?).
But I see what you're saying, "how could he want to 'avenge' his death when he barely knows him?" Well, if he's attending Clark's funeral in Smallville I'm just going to guess (again!) that he's got to know more about Clark from Martha Kent and Lois Lane...
In regards to Supes killing people...he killed a terrorist who was holding a gun to Lois's head...ain't even mad at him for that
just saying, dude was perfectly fine with killing waves of people. most of them low level thugs who might not have even been evil people. but decides to let the guy who spent months sending him messages to piss him off, forces a god to rip his head off, kidnaps and is about to kill martha, creates a monster who would have destroyed all of gotham, knows his secret identity, ect... there is NO reason for him not killing lex other than because of "plot". in fact seeing that luthor almost killed martha and his actions resulted in the death of superman, would it not make perfect sense to avenge clarks death by killing luthor?
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then stop attempting to defend it with nonsensical gibberish and move on along. thxyeah, just like the movie, you have me all figured out
Clown.
I don't care to defend the movie, I liked it, that's what that matters. Did I love it? Of course not, it's all over the place and full of plot holes. Not enough to make me hate it and go on some internet crusade to nit pick it do death and shove my opinion down everyone's throat like you.
People like you have to be insufferable irlconstantly repeating the same tired points over and over again. Just look at your post history in here compared to everyone else. Definition of a try hard. You got cats in here blocking you because of how annoying you are.
Numerous posts breaking down my nonsensical points
Break them down then, I'm sure you have nothing better to do.
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Majority of people have zero problem with Batman killing in this film. It's the fact that Joker's running around perfectly fine that ticks them off. Even IF you could let slide him being selective, not killing off Joker of all people is just dumb. Which is why you don't have a killer Bat in the comics or animated appearances for that matter, because everyone knows that once its done there's zero reason for people like Joker to be left alive.
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Not playing Devil's Advocate, but we really have no idea the kind of run-ins Batman has had with the Joker.
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It kinda doesnt matter. It's been 20 years of mental/physical torture. Joker has done enough. Now the death of Robin may have pushed him over the edge to kill but it makes no sense to selectively kill.
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quote said nonsensical and gibberish filled posts that attempt to defend the movie then. I'm sure you have time. Thx
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That too. I mentioned above that members of the Suicide Squad (Who are shown locked up in the trailers) could've all been in prison for years and we have no idea exactly when Batman started killing. Alfred makes the comment about good men turning cruel and along with Bruce's note about good guys dying i'd say that implies he wasn't always this way. I just think that going forward that's going to present an issue for a lot of people.
Though I think we can at least surmise that Joker killed A Robin, most likely Jason Todd. Because lets be honest: if a Robin died, it was Jason Todd 9 times out of 10.
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if Batman kills him then the joker wins and gets what he wanted. Bats is doing his job and putting him in jail. Why doesn't the justice system put the joker under the death penalty and kill him that way instead? Why is it exclusively up to the Batman? Why not robin or Jim Gordon? I'll tell you why, because it's freaking comic books
Also, there is always the threat that if he killed the joker, someone else (who could be much worse) might pop up and take his place, or maybe two or three other people instead. There is no way to really know.
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Court doesn't put Joker down because he pleads insanity every time. That's why he's in Arkham not Blackgate
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I think the "cruelty" of Batman was meant only for his return after the Metropolis battle. It seems like the intention was to have Superman "rub off" on him and have Batman realize that he was a acting like a moron after his death (even though Supes probably killed that African dude...
But yeah, I don't think Batman was always no dambs given ruthless, and the scene where he chooses not to brand Lex I guess signifies that he's back to "classic" Batman. "I won't fail him in death", etc.
So I'm not really buying this "selective killing" thing that people are choosing to focus on, but w/e.
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I'm not against DC. I'm against bad movies.
I **** on IM3 as hard as I **** on this.
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If batman is killing.
Not killing luthor is indefensible.
Not killing luthor is indefensible.
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what does that have to do with the film?
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There's a difference between neutralizing an immediate threat and murdering Lex while he's in jail.
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why don't the doctors in Arkham put him down or make him OD then? It would be the right thing to do right? and they're more than capable of doing it.
