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dcallamerican said:
Yea this has been disproven. Keep up. Posts have been bumped of people saying it.
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Ok, a few here and there have said that butaybe at that time they thought he would be the best one of the three in the future but it didn't turn out to be the case.

He's great on the mic, just not worth much else after he puts the mic down.
 
Bend_The_Knee said:
Ok, a few here and there have said that butaybe at that time they thought he would be the best one of the three in the future but it didn't turn out to be the case.

He's great on the mic, just not worth much else after he puts the mic down.
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i think that's only true in aew because they let him do garbage stuff.... if he stayed in wwf his matches would be him coming from getting beat up to hit a ddt and win..... i think i could deal with that as long as he had good opponents
 
dcallamerican said:
Has any wrestler "Fooled the People" over the years more than Dean AMbrose/Jon MOxley has?

Folks thought he was the best overall member of the Shield. Of course we thought he was the best promo, he probably still is TBH.

I guess it was easier for him to hide his work in the Tag Matches and we saw that his work wasn't that special when he broke off into the singles scene.

BUt he was protected by the WWE system, protected from himself.

Now we see his true colors. Like Cornette said, he is a CZW Garbage wrestler at heart, and it shows.
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That’s a little harsh for PWI’s wrestler of the year. He would be one of the best in a non floppy floppy era :lol: still I give him props for being as successful as he’s been with his “style” in a time when no one is going that route

ITO said:
29 January 1996
Monday Night Nitro Review

Hulk Hogan vs Ric Flair
I’m once again not understanding these things:
  • A main even match as the opener
  • A main even match as the opener on a Nitro
  • Going to commercials in the middle of a main event wrestlers match
  • Using the same people in rotation (Hogan, Flair, Sting, Savage, Giant)
  • The constant use of the same match (ex: Flair/Hogan, Flair/Sting, Savage/Luger)
  • The back to back weeks of parading women around - does not fit Hogan’s character
  • Not having Kimberly Page around
Not much to talk about beyond those points. The match itself was fine for who and what it was, but it doesn’t belong here at all.

Faces of Fear vs Road Warriors
That match itself was a typical Road Warriors match, odd to do against faces of fear. Lots of no selling, (pile drive spot comes to mind) then playing dead. Very high powered and heavy fisted. The pace of it is what I question. Why not give them American Male and have them blow through competition before making them look old/weak. All last week it was talked about getting them against Luger/Sting. Great… make them look extremely strong to take on those two. FOF didn’t make them look good, that wasn’t going to be in the cards with that group. The announcers did RW no favors either, instead of being shocked how much the Road Warriors were being beaten it was more selling for FOF. Further doesn’t help the ref is slow counting, makes it worse. Brain even mentioned it once towards the later part of the match. Odd to watch to think any of this is a good idea. Tread Road Warriors like you would have treated Goldberg… come in, “Uhhhhhhhhhlllll What a rush”, shoulder tackles, power slam, clothesline, finish. Match was just as ugly as it could get.

Taskmaster and Hugh Morris with Mean Gene with Arn Anderson and Brian Pillman
Taskmaster did’t even think to start the interview without yelling. It’s annoying. Pillman (and many other WCW wrestlers) continue to not know where the camera is when giving interviews. The horseman involved in this weird angle, not having Pillman’s back because the Horseman do whatever the hell they want, Arn took his belt off, Pillman cowering away not helping AA, Arn talking to the committee to get a match. These are Horseman… the hell is this garbage?

Madusa vs Sister Sherri
Is Madusa a heel or face? She jumped Sherri at her wedding, jumped her again to start this match. Madusa physically looks good, but then she is wrestling Sherri. Wrestling in a dress and stockings, no shoes, just weird. Odd paring over all, did WCW have any other women wrestlers at this time? I wonder what happened to all the Japanese wrestlers. To end it Sherri WON?! The Madusa drops her on her dome and smashes her head against the ring. That wasn’t pretty at all, Sherri is either the best actress ever or she was legit out. Didn’t look good at all.

The Giant vs Macho Man Randy Savage for the WCW Heavyweight Championship
See my initial thoughts about Hogan and Flair, and then add why is the Championship being defended on Nitro AGAIN. Every once in awhile, by all means. This is just ridiculous at this point. Savage being a face, he attacks Giant with the belt and does Nothing to the Giant. The Flair came out to what?! This cluster just makes the Champion even worse, in so many ways. Hogan has one eye, stupid bandage on his face, and beats the Giant and 50 other people with a chair saving Savage. God damn this is absolutely tragic nonsense. Them, for NO reason, the Giant is being held back again. Ric Flair can’t complete a sentence, Giant can’t is incoherent, man… what a cluster. No way Flair didn’t do a bunch of blow before doing this entire spot. Always good to see your Champion drug out on his feet while a one eyed person is protecting him. Trash.


Back to back weeks left a terrible taste, I watched Raw to see what they did


29 January 1996
Monday Night RAW

WWF Opening Recap
Shawn Michales just won the Royal Rumble, Yoko is champion, Vader killed Gorilla Monsoon, Diesel vs Bulldog, Billionaire Ted, and a Major AnnouncementReally enjoyed the Raw intro, fun to hear that again after all these years.

British Bulldog vs Diesel
Bulldog looks like a million bucks, from outfit to physic he really did look like a main venter. Diesel has some good walkout music, really fit the character. A lot of selling the future match up with Diesel and Bret Hart for the championship. Both guys looked good, nice trade, good ring work by Davey Boy with the work on Diesel’s leg. Yoko walked out and man… he is a big boy. Is he still 100% Japanese at this point, because Yoko is sitting there talking to Corney quite a bit. Diesel sold the hell out of his leg being hurt and then picked up Bulldog on his shoulder no problem… whoops. Yoko had to hold the

Doc Hendrix Promo
His voice, AM radio DJ voice gets me. Bret Hart cut a decent promo, hard to ignore the fat black eye he has. I sometimes forget the blue cage and the escape rules www had. Is Diesel supposed to be a heel or a face? Shawn vs. Owen could be a good one, but the stipulation is weird. There is no reason the put Shawn’s title match on the line… odd. Razor and Kid in a Baby match where the loser has to be fed a baby bottle… oh boy. The pile of **** that is… Funny they are mentioning the billionaire Ted angle, along with Turn sending in a cease and desist order.

Billionaire Ted Promo
Old Hogan and Macho Man posing in the background is hilarious. That legit made me laugh. WWF putting light on WCW on their “poor” practice was interesting. The skit itself was ok, nothing exciting.

The Godwinns vs The BodyDonnas
Sunny days indeed, not too bad. I vividly remember being a big Godwinns fan way back when, I couldn’t tell you why but I had the action figures and all. Just big tough dudes maybe. The names of Skip and Zip was hilarious. Vince delivering it with a straight face even better. Phineas with the duct tape for wrist wraps was a nice little touch. This match is what the Road Warriors hold have been, Godwinns looked strong. The dosey do at the end was a nice little character touch.

Royal Rumbler Vader Recap
I don’t really remember this rumble, but seeing Vader as big as he was… man. Very similar to seeing Yoko. These guys just got big. Funny to see the lawyer and Corney come in on a promo for self defense.

Vince McMahon Interview with Rowdy Roddy Piper
Piper is the acting President due to Vader killing Gorilla Monsoon. Piper has the same issue I’ve seen with other elder wrestlers giving promos. They don’t know where the camera is, see their back, side of head, etc. Good overall intro as a reminder to who Piper is. Did well to put over the locker room, really gave them a platform. You can tell Piper was having fun messing with Vince.

Mankind Promo
Why is the sky blue, what happened to my ear? Good line, nice little quick teaser intro.

Yokozuna vs Shawn Michaels
Vince’s Shawn pop was something else, I thought he would need to change his pants. He sold the hell out of Shawn this entire program. Hearing Vince’s promo/announcer voice is so weird. Been a long time since I’ve heard it. Seeing Yoko next to Diesel and Bulldog is one thing, seeing him against Shawn he looks even bigger. Dude is huge. Shawn looked fast, good action between the two, but then Shawn started to do some really campy stuff. Slapped Yoko’s butt, ran around the ring to celebrate with the fans. As big as Yoko is, I’m surprised he moves around as well as he did. Match was good, but we just had this same exact finish with Bulldog vs Diesel. Same manager, same Yoko, same interference… doubled up on this angle? Don’t get it, don’t have to do the same thing over and over in one Monday Night Raw. They start to come in on Shawn, Diesel runs out, and Shawn does campy dumb stuff again. Was still 3 on 2 and for no real reason for Bulldog, Owen, and Yoko to back peddle out of the ring. Weird way to end the entire broadcast with Shawn and Diesel in karate poses.
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We doing Raw now too or are you just doing extra credit?
I wouldn’t mind doing a comparison of both weekly shows. Maybe when the 83 weeks era starts more people will be up for it
 
Bend_The_Knee said:
Ok, a few here and there have said that butaybe at that time they thought he would be the best one of the three in the future but it didn't turn out to be the case.

He's great on the mic, just not worth much else after he puts the mic down.
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So you quoted me just to repeat what I have already stated? 🤔
 
toneagain said:
i think that's only true in aew because they let him do garbage stuff.... if he stayed in wwf his matches would be him coming from getting beat up to hit a ddt and win..... i think i could deal with that as long as he had good opponents
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I agree.
 
John Laurinaitis said:
We doing Raw now too or are you just doing extra credit?
I wouldn’t mind doing a comparison of both weekly shows. Maybe when the 83 weeks era starts more people will be up for it
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No, Nitro was just annoying me with things and I was curious what WWF was doing.

I plan on watching some more here and there to get an insight on what both were doing.
 
30 January 1996
ECW Hardcore TV

Joey Styles Opener
Tommy Dreamer and Shane Douglas face to face coming together to tag team against Mikey Whipreck and Cactus Jack. Intro music is the most generic CAW music with some good action behind it. Joey Styles could always give a good intro, one on one, and play by play. Good to hear him do this opener after all this time. Joey is giving us a taste of what happened tonight, shows a win in a never heard of them match. Steven Richards and Blue Meanie declaring themselves the freebirds. Seeing Meanie do his dance is still funny, it’s just some weird movements. Woman is there, but weird because Woman was also on WCW live. I wonder how many weeks in advance they shot this. Cactus cutting a nice promo about wrist locking Mabel and moving on the WWF. Funny to hear.

Stevie Richards talks to Francine
So from the overall recap it goes directly to Stevie talking and apologizing to Francine with a jar of fluff. A precious Dawn Marie ****s sheep chant broke out… “Stevie she’s sucking fluff off your finger!”. Pitbulls, Eliminators, Gangstas, Meanie all start fighting. 911 comes down and choke slams the hell out of everyone. Taz came down, started choking 911 out, everyone is just beating on each other. The match is going on around 911 and Taz fighting. Both Pitbulls are a bloody mess, they hit a super power bomb and more mayhem. It’s pure bread chaos. Everyone from Alfonso, Commissioner Gordon, to Francine is breaking up 3 counts. Francine gets her head kicked off by Richards and the Gangstas somehow pick u the win. Gordon and Alfonso were fighting all the way down the aisle, that was comedy.

The Dudleys vs JT Smith and Axl Rotten
Stutterin Buh Buh was a good little gimmick. Love the ECW version of the Dudleys. Remember JT Smith being apart of the FBI. Don’t remember the time frame but still comical. Him turning to KO Axel Rotten was random. Buh Buh Bomb for a quick 3.

Rob Van Dam vs Sabu
These were some good highlights, both guys were fast and flying all over the place. Sabu hit a chair springboard over the ropes into the 1st/2nd row to land on RVD, crazy spot. Only to double up and do a springboard moonsault onto RVD who is on a table.

Shane Douglas and Tommy Dreamer vs Cactus Jack and Mikey Whipreck
ECW crowd getting at Cactus’ neck with Jack going to WWF around this time. Makes sense as I just watched the teaser Mankind promo on Raw. Cactus is also wearing a WWF’NF shirt, hilarious. (ECF’n W if you don’t get the reference) Cactus cuts a nice little mid match promo on Franchise, good action between the two. Fans tried to give Dreamer a Nintendo to hit Cactus with, I was rooting to see that bump - just random. A while later the Nintendo got thrown into the ring, Mikey DDT’d dreamer on the Nintendo. Raven came out, DDT’d Dreamer. Dreamer DDT’d Franchise. Pure DDT fest for awhile and somehow the Nintendo gets thrown back into the ring. Cactus pulled a win with a drop toe hold into the chair that was in the middle of the ring.

Shane Douglas Promo
Shane always cut a decent promo, once again he cuts another one on Cactus.

Raven vs The Sandman for the ECW World Title
Sandman came out with Woman who looks like a graceful elegant swan in the middle of a county festival pot belly pig contest… she stands out. Raven in the corner with Kimona Wanalaya fits perfect with this crowd. I love how Raven sat in the corner and no played Sandman and his entrance. I do miss Raven, he was on of my tops back in the day. Sandman did a cane spot and was swinging that thing around like Bonds hitting home runs in the middle of his peak juicing. Cactus and Dreamer came out to interfere for seemingly no reason other than a spot. It’s weird to see all three companies do this More is More mentality… it takes away from everything and we end up being the dogs in Up going squirrel! Our attention is all over the place except on the World Title match where it should be. Raven DDT is up there with Jake the Snake for me, good to see him winning the ECW World Title.

Raven Promo
Didn’t say much, he has the title and new girl. Never needed Beulah, but said it in the way that he really did. Always did so much and didn’t need much.

Joey Styles Sign Off
Joey confirmed Woman was pulling double duty with Hogan/Macho Man and being at the side of Sandman. She cut a quick I’m out, come with me to WCW promo. 2 Cold Scorpio came out to intervene, you pick a side. Sandman was always an annoying promo to me, not much has changed all these years. Scorpio picked up Woman on his shoulder and clearly had a hand full of ***. Good heelish way to go out for her along with closing the show.








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