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Originally Posted by joesarge
I wish OKC had gotted 1 or 2. I'm not a huge fan of theirs, but they have a good foundation and make smart moves. A team like that should get a break.
As far as my team (Pistons), I've seen them taking Austin Daye and BJ Mullens in mocks. Either of those picks would piss me off, but in this draft there isn't a home run at 15.
• Nash not in hurry to extend deal
Paul Coro of the Arizona Republic delivers news from Steve Nash's camp that should give the Phoenix Suns organization some pause in how they assess this year's NBA draft class.
Nash, 35, and his agent, Bill Duffy, have let the Suns know that they will wait to see how the Suns roster is altered before getting serious about negotiating a two-year contract extension. If and when that time comes, Duffy said Nash would ask for a raise from the current deal, which is slated to expire after paying him $13.125 million for the 2009-10 season.
"This is kind of a perplexing time because he (Nash) absolutely wants to win and he loves the (Phoenix) market but all the pieces have to line up properly," Duffy said. "We just want to wait and see what their game plan is so we can sign off on it. We respect their willingness to extend his contract but we also are very cognizant of the team dynamic to make sure it will work in terms of Steve's goals, which are to win a championship."
According to sources, the Suns were already extremely high on Syracuse sophomore Jonny Flynn, and this report today may be enough to sway Phoenix into the notion of drafting a point guard in this draft, rather than the best player available. That was believed to be their philosophy going into June, to take the best talent they can find, rather than try to fill a specific need.
The problem for Phoenix is that Flynn is no lock by any stretch to be around with the 14th pick, as teams like Golden State, Milwaukee, New Jersey and Indiana also appear to be in the market at that position. If Flynn is off the board, look for the Suns to try and target the next best point guard available, possibly Ty Lawson or Eric Maynor.
• Draft Buzz
A poll of representatives from a good chunk of the league indicates some interesting trends.
-Jrue Holiday in the words of one executive, is "moving up more than anyone in this draft" right now, and could find himself in the 6-10 range when it's all said and done. He even has an outside chance of being selected 4th by Sacramento, and he will indeed be working out there tomorrow from what we're told. New York (, Toronto (9) and Milwaukee (10) appear to be especially interested.
-The other "big riser" in this draft may be DeJuan Blair. Reports are swirling about Blair measuring a legit 6-7 in shoes (with a 7-2 wingspan) as well as losing as much as 15 pounds since arriving at IMG Academy. A slew of NBA teams have reportedly been out to evaluate him and some of the other top prospects training at the facility, and the buzz is growing around him every day seemingly. Milwaukee at 10, New Jersey at 11 and Indiana at 13 appear to be his sweet spots at the moment, and if he falls past there, he apparently will not get past Phoenix.
-Austin Daye is another player with some strong hype at the moment. "He's the most skilled player in the draft" one executive told us recently. "He's not as soft as people think. He's going to get drafted between 10 and 15. If he works out great, he may even go earlier."
Daye's upside seems to be creeping his stock closer to the lottery, as teams evaluate him side by side with some of the more mature prospects in this draft and wonder if what you're seeing with them is all you're going to get. "There aren't that many players in this draft with star potential," one scout told us. "He looks great in workouts, but is that really a surprise?"
-Players who appear to be tallying off a bit in terms of their draft buzz include James Johnson ("out of sight, out of mind," one executive says), Jeff Teague and especially Earl Clark, who teams are beginning to get cold feet about as they conduct more and more research. DeMar DeRozan has been difficult to pin down for workouts (oddly demanding to compete against James Harden, or else…) and Tyreke Evans for some reason is still interviewing agents at this late stage in the game.
-Patty Mills is awaiting paperwork from the NCAA that will give him clearance to attend the Reebok Eurocamp in Treviso without affecting his ability to return to St. Mary's. Since the camp is not a sanctioned event according to the NCAA, Mills will likely have to reimburse Reebok for his travel expenses should he decide to pull his name out of the draft. It appears likely that he will play in Treviso, which should give the camp a major boost.
Another prospect who will add experience and depth to the camp is French combo guard Nando de Colo. According to DraftExpress columnist Joey Whelan, who is writing a feature on De Colo for this weekend, he was extended and accepted an invitation to the prestigious event this week.
-A few potential second rounders who have reportedly been strong in private workouts according to reports we've received from teams and other draft prospects in attendance include DeMarre Carroll, Dionte Christmas and Joe Ingles. Danny Green is being mentioned by some as a second rounder who could work his way into the first round.
-The Chicago Bulls are reportedly heavily shopping Tyrus Thomas around the league, trying to see what kind of value they can get for him after the solid season he's coming off of. It appears that they don't see him fitting into their long-term plans as he's too similar to Joakim Noah, and they aren't interested in giving him a long-term deal that would put them over the luxury tax. It's possible the Bulls look to package Thomas and Hinrich together and land a big time power forward.
-A number of teams are already reportedly sending out feelers indicating that they would like to acquire a pick in the late first round-including the San Antonio Spurs, Houston Rockets and Toronto Raptors. A few teams that are rumored to be looking to trade or sell their picks are the Oklahoma City Thunder (#25), Minnesota Timberwolves (#2 and New Orleans Hornets (#21).
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The Thunder is expected to make a play for Griffin, using the third pick and one of their young core players (Jeff Green or Russell Westbrook) as bait for the top overall pick
lets take out the fact that the clippers said they would pick Griffin already
RW,the 3rd pick and the 27 for Griffin? if lets say thabeet was a sure thing i would do that trade but he is not so NOPE
RW is not a shooting guard right now, if he can get a jump shot then maybe cause u can run him off screens and so on but right now he needs the ball in hishands.
Two league sources said the Wizards and Thunder already had discussions about a swap of the No. 3 pick for the No. 5 pick and the Wizards' 2008 first-rounder JaVale McGee.
if that is true the Thunder better do that trade NOW. McGee runing the floor with those guys
Originally Posted by chillainvillain
Originally Posted by joesarge
I wish OKC had gotted 1 or 2. I'm not a huge fan of theirs, but they have a good foundation and make smart moves. A team like that should get a break.
As far as my team (Pistons), I've seen them taking Austin Daye and BJ Mullens in mocks. Either of those picks would piss me off, but in this draft there isn't a home run at 15.
Originally Posted by joesarge
I wish OKC had gotted 1 or 2. I'm not a huge fan of theirs, but they have a good foundation and make smart moves. A team like that should get a break.
As far as my team (Pistons), I've seen them taking Austin Daye and BJ Mullens in mocks. Either of those picks would piss me off, but in this draft there isn't a home run at 15.
Originally Posted by chillainvillain
Originally Posted by joesarge
I wish OKC had gotted 1 or 2. I'm not a huge fan of theirs, but they have a good foundation and make smart moves. A team like that should get a break.
As far as my team (Pistons), I've seen them taking Austin Daye and BJ Mullens in mocks. Either of those picks would piss me off, but in this draft there isn't a home run at 15.
| L.A. Clippers | Blake Griffin | Position: PF Height: 6-foot-10 Weight: 245 pounds Age: 20 School: Oklahoma |
| Memphis | Hasheem Thabeet | Position: C Height: 7-3 Weight: 265 Age: 22 School: Connecticut |
| Oklahoma City | Ricky Rubio | Position: PG Height: 6-4 Weight: 180 Age: 18 Country: Spain |
| Sacramento | Jordan Hill | Position: PF Height: 6-9 Weight: 235 Age: 21 School: Arizona |
| Washington | James Harden | Position: SG Height: 6-4 Weight: 215 Age: 19 School: Arizona State |
| Minnesota | DeMar DeRozan | Position: SG Height: 6-6 Weight: 200 Age: 19 School: USC |
| Golden State | Brandon Jennings | Position: PG Height: 6-2 Weight: 165 Age: 19 Country: Italy |
| New York | Stephen Curry | Position: PG Height: 6-3 Weight: 185 Age: 21 School: Davidson |
| Toronto | Tyreke Evans | Position: SG Height: 6-6 Weight: 220 Age: 19 School: Memphis |
| Milwaukee | Jrue Holiday | Position: PG Height: 6-4 Weight: 200 Age: 18 School: UCLA |
| New Jersey | James Johnson | Position: PF Height: 6-9 Weight: 245 Age: 22 School: Wake Forest |
| Charlotte | Gerald Henderson | Position: SG Height: 6-4 Weight: 215 Age: 21 School: Duke |
| Indiana | Jonny Flynn | Position: PG Height: 6-0 Weight: 175 Age: 20 School: Syracuse |
| Phoenix | Earl Clark | Position: SF Height: 6-9 Weight: 200 Age: 21 School: Louisville |
| Detroit | Austin Daye | Position: SF Height: 6-10 Weight: 190 Age: 20 School: Gonzaga |
| Chicago | DeJuan Blair | Position: PF Height: 6-7 Weight: 250 Age: 20 School: Pittsburgh |
| Philadelphia | Eric Maynor | Position: PG Height: 6-3 Weight: 175 Age: 21 School: VCU |
| Minnesota (via Miami) | B.J. Mullens | Position: C Height: 7-1 Weight: 260 Age: 20 School: Ohio State |
| Atlanta | Jeff Teague | Position: PG Height: 6-2 Weight: 180 Age: 20 School: Wake Forest |
| Utah | Tyler Hansbrough | Position: PF Height: 6-9 Weight: 250 Age: 23 School: North Carolina |
| New Orleans | Terrence Williams | Position: SG Height: 6-6 Weight: 220 Age: 21 School: Louisville |
| Dallas | Ty Lawson | Position: PG Height: 5-11 Weight: 195 Age: 21 School: North Carolina |
| Sacramento (via Houston) | Nick Calathes | Position: PG Height: 6-5 Weight: 185 Age: 20 School: Florida |
| Portland | Darren Collison | Position: PG Height: 6-1 Weight: 165 Age: 21 School: UCLA |
| Oklahoma City (via San Antonio) | Gani Lawal | Position: PF Height: 6-9 Weight: 220 Age: 19 School: Georgia Tech |
| Chicago (via Denver) | Toney Douglas | Position: SG Height: 6-2 Weight: 205 Age: 23 School: Florida State |
| Memphis (via Orlando) | Chase Budinger | Position: SG Height: 6-7 Weight: 205 Age: 21 School: Arizona |
| Minnesota (via Boston) | Patrick Mills | Position: PG Height: 5-11 Weight: 175 Age: 20 School: St. Mary's (CA) |
| L.A. Lakers | DaJuan Summers | Position: SF Height: 6-8 Weight: 225 Age: 21 School: Georgetown |
| Cleveland | Sam Young | Position: SF Height: 6-6 Weight: 215 Age: 24 School: Pittsburgh |
-Jrue Holiday in the words of one executive, is "moving up more than anyone in this draft" right now, and could find himself in the 6-10 range when it's all said and done. He even has an outside chance of being selected 4th by Sacramento, and he will indeed be working out there tomorrow from what we're told. New York (, Toronto (9) and Milwaukee (10) appear to be especially interested.
-The other "big riser" in this draft may be DeJuan Blair. Reports are swirling about Blair measuring a legit 6-7 in shoes (with a 7-2 wingspan) as well as losing as much as 15 pounds since arriving at IMG Academy. A slew of NBA teams have reportedly been out to evaluate him and some of the other top prospects training at the facility, and the buzz is growing around him every day seemingly. Milwaukee at 10, New Jersey at 11 and Indiana at 13 appear to be his sweet spots at the moment, and if he falls past there, he apparently will not get past Phoenix.
-Austin Daye is another player with some strong hype at the moment. "He's the most skilled player in the draft" one executive told us recently. "He's not as soft as people think. He's going to get drafted between 10 and 15. If he works out great, he may even go earlier."
Daye's upside seems to be creeping his stock closer to the lottery, as teams evaluate him side by side with some of the more mature prospects in this draft and wonder if what you're seeing with them is all you're going to get. "There aren't that many players in this draft with star potential," one scout told us. "He looks great in workouts, but is that really a surprise?"
-Players who appear to be tallying off a bit in terms of their draft buzz include James Johnson ("out of sight, out of mind," one executive says), Jeff Teague and especially Earl Clark, who teams are beginning to get cold feet about as they conduct more and more research.
Hilarious.
Every single part.
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DaJuan having great workouts. NOT surprised. Dude looks like LeBron and shoots lights out.
put him on the floor for a game tho....
JONNY FLYNNOriginally Posted by Crazy EBW
Danny Green=best player in the league from this years draft.
WRITE IT DOWN.
Hilarious.Originally Posted by Al3xis
-Jrue Holiday in the words of one executive, is "moving up more than anyone in this draft" right now, and could find himself in the 6-10 range when it's all said and done. He even has an outside chance of being selected 4th by Sacramento, and he will indeed be working out there tomorrow from what we're told. New York (, Toronto (9) and Milwaukee (10) appear to be especially interested.
-The other "big riser" in this draft may be DeJuan Blair. Reports are swirling about Blair measuring a legit 6-7 in shoes (with a 7-2 wingspan) as well as losing as much as 15 pounds since arriving at IMG Academy. A slew of NBA teams have reportedly been out to evaluate him and some of the other top prospects training at the facility, and the buzz is growing around him every day seemingly. Milwaukee at 10, New Jersey at 11 and Indiana at 13 appear to be his sweet spots at the moment, and if he falls past there, he apparently will not get past Phoenix.
-Austin Daye is another player with some strong hype at the moment. "He's the most skilled player in the draft" one executive told us recently. "He's not as soft as people think. He's going to get drafted between 10 and 15. If he works out great, he may even go earlier."
Daye's upside seems to be creeping his stock closer to the lottery, as teams evaluate him side by side with some of the more mature prospects in this draft and wonder if what you're seeing with them is all you're going to get. "There aren't that many players in this draft with star potential," one scout told us. "He looks great in workouts, but is that really a surprise?"
-Players who appear to be tallying off a bit in terms of their draft buzz include James Johnson ("out of sight, out of mind," one executive says), Jeff Teague and especially Earl Clark, who teams are beginning to get cold feet about as they conduct more and more research.