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Didn't the Portland Trailblazers learn from Micheal jordan? VOL Durant
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The Blazers could actually use KD right now. Their SF rotation is dry. Martell Webster isn cuttin' it.
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simmons definitely was not full oden before the draft. he said he couldn't even imagine the possibilities for portland if they took durantfirst and said they should at least explore that possibility but of course they wouldn't because they had no balls...Originally Posted by CP1708
But Simmons changed, he went full Oden after the title game, he wanted Oden on the CeltsOriginally Posted by I NaSmatic I
The only guy I remember campaigning Durant over Oden in the media was Bill Simmons.
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u make a point
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I think Danny Ainge was going to take Durant if he had gotten the #1.
Either way, Oden lead his team to the Final Game as a freshman, and balled out against that Florida squad with 25, 12 and 4. He looked like the next greatcenter.
Either way, Oden lead his team to the Final Game as a freshman, and balled out against that Florida squad with 25, 12 and 4. He looked like the next greatcenter.
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This has been said over and over again. Google it, the evidence is there.
you know good and damn well if Portland took KD over oden AT THE TIME CP would be killing them
False. I will never get why it is you think I am some blind dumb @#$ when it comes to Portland, but I fight with dudes here EVERY DAY and backthen I was pro Durant the entire time. So was PRIME1984, we both were on the phones the minute the lottery happened. I have never once changed my opinion onthem either way.
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I think Danny Ainge was going to take Durant if he had gotten the #1.
not a chance.
Boston was dying for their next Bill Russell. Organization included.
Lottery viewing parties and all. The devastation was quite funny, but then the trades happened.
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oden if he can become healthy and stay out of foul trouble, would become a damn %*%%*%! beast.
he needs to work with that guy tmac and oneal worked with in the summer. forgot his name. tim grover?
he needs to work with that guy tmac and oneal worked with in the summer. forgot his name. tim grover?
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not a chance.
Boston was dying for their next Bill Russell. Organization included.
Lottery viewing parties and all. The devastation was quite funny, but then the trades happened.
Maybe your write, but Simmons was claiming the other day, that he knows for fact Ainge was going to select Durant
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Originally Posted by airmaxpenny1
Maybe your write, but Simmons was claiming the other day, that he knows for fact Ainge was going to select Durant
While I agree with you...Oden was tremendous near the end of his freshman year. He really impressed a lot of people during the Buckeyes tournamentrun (w/ the exception of that Round of 16 game vs. Tennessee). Like some others have stated, he looked like he was about to transform into the next great NBAcenter, in a league that was and still is very in need of great big men.
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If you have the chance to take a 7 footer with great potential, you do it.
IMO, the 2 most valuable positions in basketball are the 1 and the 5 (or nowadays the 4 spot)...get good at those two spots and you're set.
Yeah it's unfortunate that Oden has been injury prone his short career, but he was (is) the missing piece of their puzzle.
IMO, the 2 most valuable positions in basketball are the 1 and the 5 (or nowadays the 4 spot)...get good at those two spots and you're set.
Yeah it's unfortunate that Oden has been injury prone his short career, but he was (is) the missing piece of their puzzle.
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the 3/4 is the easiest position to fill.
points and center are the hardest to fill imo.
finding an consistent shooting guard is another thing though.
points and center are the hardest to fill imo.
finding an consistent shooting guard is another thing though.
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so anyone saying they would have picked KD over oden at the time, why was it?
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i think they made the right choice, it just didnt workout for them. kd came into a situation that was a good fit for him and he's played extrememly well. idont think if jd was on the blazers he plays this well
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Exactly.
All things constant, you take the big man, ESPECIALLY in the current league and the lack of quality true centers.
No one doubted Durant's skill and potential, but people saw the next great center in Greg, and you can't pass that opportunity up.
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Looking over the worst records that year, the only team that had a shot at #1 that could have taken Durant over Oden was Milwaukee. They had drafted Bogut whowas good in his own right, but who knows.
My friend has a thing where he believes you always take a guy who can get or create his own shot. If you remember, he was the one that startedthe Blake Griffin thread and said he thought someone else shoulda been picked #1. He got ROASTED in that thread, but his point was entirely accurate. And yousee guys like Jennings and Evans and even Curry having solid seasons. (Not that Blake won't be good once he returns) His argument was a little flawed,but that's basically what he wants, a guy that can move with the ball on his own, not have to be spoon fed. Of course, a guy like Shaq or Duncan would bethe exception.
Bowie 2.0 was trademarked in what thread? The Lottery thread correct? There were all kinds of folk sayin Durant should go 1 and Oden would be an injuryconcern, it was HAMMERED home once it was found out that Portland had the pick. If it was Seattle, nobody was gonna make the Bowie comparison obviously. Durant was a difference maker, Oden to me was Pryz with more upside. That's it. Having Durant, Roy and LA woulda been disgusting, and they STILL wouldhave a 7 foot 280 pound center, just with less hops. But this whole entire state from the minute that lottery ball popped up, had only Oden in mind. As MikeRice put it, OoooooooooooDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN. Those were his EXACT words.
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Yea, that point is beyond ******ed CP.
I think that was why his thread got dismantled, he was trying to make a point about players who get drafted into a perfect situation, become great, and we havecountless #1 picks who do nothing. Bargnani goes #1, but Roy at 7 becomes an elite player. Bogut goes #1, Chris Paul is elite of elite. Something sort oflike that.
Maybe had Roy and CP3 been #1 picks, they might not have had the careers they started out with, I don't know. But he basically perfers guys who can handleand shoot and get to the bucket on their own, not stand there with there back to the basket and then not know what to do with it. Oden.
Me personally, I don't beleive that you HAVE to go big man anymore. I know back in the day it was all about draft a center, but with the rule changes andwhat not, I'm lookin out at the perimeter type players. Who are the best in the game right now? Kobe, Bron, Wade, Melo, Durant, CP3. Dirk and KG are 7footers, who play like Small Forwards. The days of drafting Duncan's and Shaq's are long gone in my eyes. Even second tier guys are Roy, D Williams,Granger, PP, and so on and so on.
Fast paced game, hand check rules, the 7 footers just can't run up and down the floor anymore. See Yao, see Oden. 7 footers like KG and Dirk that arelighter and do less banging inside, seem to be better fits for the game today. Bynum is another guy that has had both knees taken out for long stretches. Soto me, give me the guy on the wing that I can put the ball in his hands at the end of the game, and let him do work. D12 is wonderful, can you give him theball at the end of the game? No. They went and got VC for that, they'll have Jameer for that. Last year it was Turk for that. *shrugs* I just thinkthe Shaq/Duncan days are over. 7 footers that get over 260 pounds or so are at risk.
Fast paced game, hand check rules, the 7 footers just can't run up and down the floor anymore. See Yao, see Oden. 7 footers like KG and Dirk that arelighter and do less banging inside, seem to be better fits for the game today. Bynum is another guy that has had both knees taken out for long stretches. Soto me, give me the guy on the wing that I can put the ball in his hands at the end of the game, and let him do work. D12 is wonderful, can you give him theball at the end of the game? No. They went and got VC for that, they'll have Jameer for that. Last year it was Turk for that. *shrugs* I just thinkthe Shaq/Duncan days are over. 7 footers that get over 260 pounds or so are at risk.
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Originally Posted by CP1708
My friend has a thing where he believes you always take a guy who can get or create his own shot. If you remember, he was the one that started the Blake Griffin thread and said he thought someone else shoulda been picked #1. He got ROASTED in that thread, but his point was entirely accurate. And you see guys like Jennings and Evans and even Curry having solid seasons. (Not that Blake won't be good once he returns) His argument was a little flawed, but that's basically what he wants, a guy that can move with the ball on his own, not have to be spoon fed. Of course, a guy like Shaq or Duncan would be the exception.
Bowie 2.0 was trademarked in what thread? The Lottery thread correct? There were all kinds of folk sayin Durant should go 1 and Oden would be an injury concern, it was HAMMERED home once it was found out that Portland had the pick. If it was Seattle, nobody was gonna make the Bowie comparison obviously. Durant was a difference maker, Oden to me was Pryz with more upside. That's it. Having Durant, Roy and LA woulda been disgusting, and they STILL would have a 7 foot 280 pound center, just with less hops. But this whole entire state from the minute that lottery ball popped up, had only Oden in mind. As Mike Rice put it, OoooooooooooDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN. Those were his EXACT words.Dude was so drunk, he probably doesn't even remember. I was on the phone instantly laughin. I knew then what the outcome would be. On air, they started asking how many titles they would win. They came up with somewhere between 8 and 11. I've explained this MANY times on here Mike. I can almost bet when Oden gets hurt for the season next year, you'll ask me to explain it all again.
now that is just OD stupid
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While I understand what you are saying, the league's rules have definitely made it easier for G's to control the game, size still does win. Look atD12, dude would get smacked by any of theelite 90s center's, Ewing Robinson, Shaw, Dream but because there is no one who even remotley possesses his sizeand athleticism he will dominate the next decade. Big men can effect the floor on both ends, something guards can't really do to the extent that big mencan. If I have the option between an elite guard and an elite big man, I am taking the elite big man every time.