Do you think E-40 Sold Out.

[boom dizzle]

Why you talk to stupid people then? That's your bad man.

 

[illoquent aka dsk]

Not everyone is like that, but I'm noticing there's more and more people of that ilk nowadays...mostly the younger crowd. Dude who I was talking about(the whole "east coast rappers are trash because they don't have that swagger that the south does") is like my little brother, he's about 3years younger than me...but he's ignorant when it comes to music.

 

[22 deuces 22]

Originally Posted by truthmain

Originally Posted by 22 Deuces 22

So every person in Northern California is supposed to be on Big and Fab's %+@+ to have a conversation with you? People like you are even more lame then the people you criticize. God forbid someone likes something you don't

.

No, not at all. The most annoying %%+@ about Bay heads is this:

They all ask me "why do you like New York music so much? You're not from New York, you're from the Bay. Stop hatin' on Bay music."

That's why I say that the majority of Bay music heads (well atleast the ones I know) are straight-up idiots. I have an open-ear for music. If it's good, I like it. It it sucks, I strongly dislike it. I don't take into consideration where the artist is from. And that's what irritates the **!* outta me with Bay heads. They have an obligation to claim that Bay music is the best just because they live there. What the **!* kind of logic is that? They fail to understand the simple concept of my idea that "I like what sounds good, I don't give a **!* where the music is from. It just so happens that the majority of good artists are from New York, and it just so happens that 99% of Bay artists are trash." That seems to be an outlandish form of logic to them.

And that is why I say that I can't have a legit rap convo with Bay folks. Most of them think the same, and most of them are stuck in the same box.

Son this argument applies to every single region; matter of fact, NY is the worst culprit. Every single dude I've met from NY claims their rap is superior to all other regions, and the majority of it is trash. TRASH. NY got the most hyped rappers on the planet, simply because their fans hype them up like it's no tomorrow. We got Joe Buddens, Jadakiss, Fab, Joel Ortiz, Juelz Santana, Papoose, I can go on and on. These dudes all stink, and never get any play outside of NY. They can't even be called overrated because no one rates them.

You talkin' about you can't have a conversation with a Bay dude? It's the same reason everyone else can't have a conversation with an NY dude.


First of all, Budden, Fab, and Jada are not trash at all.

Secondly, atleast people from NY are right in their claims. It's a well-known fact that the best music comes from New York. Anybody with a grain of senseknows that. It's something that cannot be argued. You're probably going to counter and say "well that's your opinion," but let's beserious. If you don't think that the best music and the majority of great artists come from New York, you're crazy. Honestly, the catalogs of the topNY artists is >>>>>> all other regions combined, and it's not even close.

Why do ya'll care though if a cat thinks the music in his region is the best? I just don't understand why that is any of your concern?
It isn't much of my concert. If they wanna listen to that #%%$, cool. I'm not telling them to stop listening to Mac Dre and other bay#%%$. However, what does annoy the +*%+ outta me is this: When they CONSTANTLY try to convince me that Mac Dre or Bay Area music is the greatest #%%$ ever.I'm like "dawg, don't talk to me about that subject. Just cuz you succumbed to the idiots around you that somehow convinced you that the Bay musicis the greatest, that doesn't mean that my mind is as weak as yours. I hate Bay music, it's wack....don't try to convince me to like it, it'snot goin' down." And with that said, the next time they hop in my whip they still wanna bring their wack-+*! cd's and expect me to play them.I'm like "what the +*%+ is wrong with you bruh?"

So yeah...I don't tell anyone what music to listen to and what music not to listen to. It's just really annoying when they try to convert me to a fanof their wack-#$+ taste in music after I've already told them countless times that I'm not havin' that %*+*.

 

[1oakland zuu]

Originally Posted by rsdplaya

e-40 kinda help to start the hyphy movement, so how can you say he's a follower?

I think E-40 ran with the hyphy movement, Keak Launched the Hyphy movement and we been going dumb in the town. Keak started it, Dre helped get everybody on it,But 40 jus took it worldwide.

 

[bayburyya]

Originally Posted by illphillip

^^^^

How you gonna talk about having a legit rap conversation when all you contributed was

? And then have the nerve to call the next man an "idiot"?

Y'all trippin'. Hip Hop owes about half of it's slang to E-40. 40 is nice with the words.

He may not be your flavor. I am an East Coast dude. But I can definitely respect dudes putting in work, making their mark etc.

40 kept the Bay on the map after Short put it on. Dudes' wordplay is very sick. It's his delivery I can't $@@+ with.

Some of y'all like to hate for no reason. Do your homework.

As for him selling out, I don't really $@@+ with his music enough to call it.

c/s on the bolded part. and as far as the thread question goes... hell yeah he sold out. don't nobody believe that this old fat !$!$* is jumpin outtacars and whatnot.

 

[suckafree85]

I dont see 40 as the voice of the bay, real talk. He was dope and all back in the day. In a major way was a good album.

I dont think he sold out tho. Like dude said before he always showed love to the other bay artists. He just had to stay relevant in the game. He's oneof the only bay N's that people on the east coast know about. They dont know about other bay artist that are raw because there not mainstream. Themajority of bay rappers are on an underground tip, u feel me? and its coo like that IMO.

I feel as if people from other parts cant connect with bay artists. Real talk tho. Yall just dont understand how it is out here. What the scene is like.


and

at the people who say Mac Dre is the goat. He had catchysongs that you could hit the block with slappin that. He also had feel good songs that make u start giggin in the club. But goat? No. Only ******edpeople would say that.

 

[1oakland zuu]

Originally Posted by SUCKAFREE85

I dont see 40 as the voice of the bay, real talk. He was dope and all back in the day. In a major way was a good album.

I dont think he sold out tho. Like dude said before he always showed love to the other bay artists. He just had to stay relevant in the game. He's one of the only bay N's that people on the east coast know about. They dont know about other bay artist that are raw because there not mainstream. The majority of bay rappers are on an underground tip, u feel me? and its coo like that IMO.

I feel as if people from other parts cant connect with bay artists. Real talk tho. Yall just dont understand how it is out here. What the scene is like.


and

at the people who say Mac Dre is the goat. He had catchy songs that you could hit the block with slappin that. He also had feel good songs that make u start giggin in the club. But goat? No. Only ******ed people would say that.

You had sum good point's, i can tell we from the same area. I agree DRe(R.I.P) wasn't the Goat of the yay but he had next far as making it andsurviving on a major i believe.

 

[money033]

at new york better than every region combined...you see that is yourOPINION????? new york fell off...for the record joe buddens is weak..jada and fab can't make albums..you see how i said that?that must be my opinion..cus umust dissagree...i tried..believe me new york i tried...only dudes i mess with from new york is nas/jay-z...mayb dmx b4 the addiction...diplomats..?weak.. imean i tried...bt IMO westcoast >>>> new york....yall wish yall still had big...as a matter of fact south>>>new york...bt new york...ITRIED

 

[shoeking2101]

Originally Posted by alejanz28

How in one breath can you say this

Seriously, never understood how somebody could like really listen to 40 water but whatever floats your boat I guess

and in your very next breath you say

But his new track with akon "Wake it up" Is hot imo. Mostly because of akon though. I recommend listening to it.
If its possible for you to like this song whether Akon is on it or not, isnt it also possible that he put out likeable singles or albums before this? Do you know about the hot songs he's done in the past with Jodeci, Short, Pac...you know what? nevermind, cats on here will just hate for cause they dont understand him...as 40 himself would say, "he aint rappin to fast, yall just listening to slow"
Yea ok. But seriously,

Dude really does suck. Like I said, I don't understand how people can listen to this dude. Everything from his flow to his rapping, is garbage.


Man does E-40 Suck.

 

[suckafree85]

and....

Ya Boy >>>>

 

[scotthallwithapick]

I'm staying out of this cause this has turned into NY mixtape/dvd/street singles w/ no album rapper> your region's favorite rapper thread but I willsay this


I smells ya!

 

[22 deuces 22]

at new york better than every region combined...you see that is your OPINION????? new york fell off...for the record joe buddens is weak..jada and fab can't make albums..you see how i said that?that must be my opinion..cus u must dissagree...i tried..believe me new york i tried...only dudes i mess with from new york is nas/jay-z...mayb dmx b4 the addiction...diplomats..?weak.. i mean i tried...bt IMO westcoast >>>> new york....yall wish yall still had big...as a matter of fact south>>>new york...bt new york...I TRIED
As long as NY got Nas, Jay, Fab, Jada, AZ, etc...NOBODY is seeing NY just off the strength of those dudes alone.

 

[supersaiyan415]

I thought budden was from jersey.

 

[memphisboi55]

Dudes' wordplay is very sick. It's his delivery I can't $@@+ with.

 

[nawlinsjunkie]

for real ny rappers are trash
nas and jay are yalls "legends" when they rhymed like everyone around them and copied off other peoples
unoriginal as #$%@
ny needs to get a reality check
all the southern rappers ie soulja boi, wayne, ti that yall clown on are 100x more relevant than nas, jay, etc
and u got nerve to mention AZ

 

[truthmain]

Originally Posted by iLLoQuent aka DSK

Originally Posted by truthmain

Originally Posted by 22 Deuces 22

So every person in Northern California is supposed to be on Big and Fab's %+@+ to have a conversation with you? People like you are even more lame then the people you criticize. God forbid someone likes something you don't

.

No, not at all. The most annoying %%+@ about Bay heads is this:

They all ask me "why do you like New York music so much? You're not from New York, you're from the Bay. Stop hatin' on Bay music."

That's why I say that the majority of Bay music heads (well atleast the ones I know) are straight-up idiots. I have an open-ear for music. If it's good, I like it. It it sucks, I strongly dislike it. I don't take into consideration where the artist is from. And that's what irritates the **!* outta me with Bay heads. They have an obligation to claim that Bay music is the best just because they live there. What the **!* kind of logic is that? They fail to understand the simple concept of my idea that "I like what sounds good, I don't give a **!* where the music is from. It just so happens that the majority of good artists are from New York, and it just so happens that 99% of Bay artists are trash." That seems to be an outlandish form of logic to them.

And that is why I say that I can't have a legit rap convo with Bay folks. Most of them think the same, and most of them are stuck in the same box.

Son this argument applies to every single region; matter of fact, NY is the worst culprit. Every single dude I've met from NY claims their rap is superior to all other regions, and the majority of it is trash. TRASH. NY got the most hyped rappers on the planet, simply because their fans hype them up like it's no tomorrow. We got Joe Buddens, Jadakiss, Fab, Joel Ortiz, Juelz Santana, Papoose, I can go on and on. These dudes all stink, and never get any play outside of NY. They can't even be called overrated because no one rates them.

You talkin' about you can't have a conversation with a Bay dude? It's the same reason everyone else can't have a conversation with an NY dude.

First off,

2nd...so because they get no play outside of NY, that means they're trash? No one rates them? You clearly just don't know what the $%#@ you're talking about fam...

They're trash to me, and I like how you left them other dudes out since NYers gas any dude that has a mediocre punchline. There's alwaysthe "next best thing" from NY, but all they really become is nothing but mixtape freestylin' dudes who I would probably never hear of outside ofNT. Buddens had one corny hit that is best known for B2K gettin' jiggy with it, Fab is the king of ruining a remix with his sorry loso flow, 'Kiss yougotta be kiddin' me. Joel who? Cassidy?? Dude who rocked it with Kells when he was in his Zorro faze?

NY dudes crack me up; no doubt some nice rappers have come from out there, butnot lately. And I mean not in the past 10 years lately.

Naw fam, you clearly one of the dudes I'm talkin' bout.

 

[22 deuces 22]

Fab is the king of ruining a remix with his sorry loso flow

Fab ruining a remix....imagine that.

 

[tupac003]

First of all, Budden, Fab, and Jada are not trash at all.
100% Correct.

Secondly, atleast people from NY are right in their claims. It's a well-known fact that the best music comes from New York. Anybody with a grain of sense knows that. It's something that cannot be argued. You're probably going to counter and say "well that's your opinion," but let's be serious. If you don't think that the best music and the majority of great artists come from New York, you're crazy. Honestly, the catalogs of the top NY artists is >>>>>> all other regions combined, and it's not even close.
Ummm...

I am from the west coast, I listen to everything and don't judge because of region. I do believe that some of the best music has come from NY but at thesame time some of the best music has come out of every region when that region was on top.

It would be a dumb statement (IMO) to say NY artist >>>>>all other regions combined.

Eminem, Kanye, Snoop (in his prime), Cube (in his prime), Lupe, Outkast, UGK and many other great artists are not from NY. NY may have better artist thenCERTAIN regions but not all regions combined.

IMO

 

[22 deuces 22]

Originally Posted by tupac003

First of all, Budden, Fab, and Jada are not trash at all.

100% Correct.

Secondly, atleast people from NY are right in their claims. It's a well-known fact that the best music comes from New York. Anybody with a grain of sense knows that. It's something that cannot be argued. You're probably going to counter and say "well that's your opinion," but let's be serious. If you don't think that the best music and the majority of great artists come from New York, you're crazy. Honestly, the catalogs of the top NY artists is >>>>>> all other regions combined, and it's not even close.
Ummm...

I am from the west coast, I listen to everything and don't judge because of region. I do believe that some of the best music has come from NY but at the same time some of the best music has come out of every region when that region was on top.

It would be a dumb statement (IMO) to say NY artist >>>>>all other regions combined.

Eminem, Kanye, Snoop (in his prime), Cube (in his prime), Lupe, Outkast, UGK and many other great artists are not from NY. NY may have better artist then CERTAIN regions but not all regions combined.

IMO



I'm not denying that other regions have great artists. They obviously do. But what I'm saying is that if I were getting shipped to anisland for the rest of my life, and I could only bring 300 songs with me, and I had to choose between A) 300 songs all from NY artists or B) 300 songs fromanyone but NY artists, I would go with A without even thinking about thinking twice.

 

[junior strikes]

 

[1oakland zuu]

^^ Now that's classic 40 right their i miss them days.

 

[money033]

new york has nas/jay thats it!...everyone else is either weak or aint doing NOTHING...besides everyone who comes out of new york has no personality..everyonesraps about the same stuff...sounds the same..dresses the same...almost nothing seperates them apart...i mean c'mon...who was the last person to come out ofnew york and b different...busta rhymes?everyones got the same swagger or i mean everyone wants the same swagger..so i guess if you like one ny rapper you likethem them all...atleast westcoast has flava...from northern cali to southern cali..n stop putting fab on your list..dude really could be missed from hiphop..prolly jada too...n i mess with them tho...but honestly...they havent done anything this decade..wait fab was on the bed remix.my bad

 

[illoquent aka dsk]

Originally Posted by truthmain

Originally Posted by iLLoQuent aka DSK

Originally Posted by truthmain

Originally Posted by 22 Deuces 22

So every person in Northern California is supposed to be on Big and Fab's %+@+ to have a conversation with you? People like you are even more lame then the people you criticize. God forbid someone likes something you don't

.

No, not at all. The most annoying %%+@ about Bay heads is this:

They all ask me "why do you like New York music so much? You're not from New York, you're from the Bay. Stop hatin' on Bay music."

That's why I say that the majority of Bay music heads (well atleast the ones I know) are straight-up idiots. I have an open-ear for music. If it's good, I like it. It it sucks, I strongly dislike it. I don't take into consideration where the artist is from. And that's what irritates the **!* outta me with Bay heads. They have an obligation to claim that Bay music is the best just because they live there. What the **!* kind of logic is that? They fail to understand the simple concept of my idea that "I like what sounds good, I don't give a **!* where the music is from. It just so happens that the majority of good artists are from New York, and it just so happens that 99% of Bay artists are trash." That seems to be an outlandish form of logic to them.

And that is why I say that I can't have a legit rap convo with Bay folks. Most of them think the same, and most of them are stuck in the same box.

Son this argument applies to every single region; matter of fact, NY is the worst culprit. Every single dude I've met from NY claims their rap is superior to all other regions, and the majority of it is trash. TRASH. NY got the most hyped rappers on the planet, simply because their fans hype them up like it's no tomorrow. We got Joe Buddens, Jadakiss, Fab, Joel Ortiz, Juelz Santana, Papoose, I can go on and on. These dudes all stink, and never get any play outside of NY. They can't even be called overrated because no one rates them.

You talkin' about you can't have a conversation with a Bay dude? It's the same reason everyone else can't have a conversation with an NY dude.

First off,

2nd...so because they get no play outside of NY, that means they're trash? No one rates them? You clearly just don't know what the $%#@ you're talking about fam...

They're trash to me, and I like how you left them other dudes out since NYers gas any dude that has a mediocre punchline. There's always the "next best thing" from NY, but all they really become is nothing but mixtape freestylin' dudes who I would probably never hear of outside of NT. Buddens had one corny hit that is best known for B2K gettin' jiggy with it, Fab is the king of ruining a remix with his sorry loso flow, 'Kiss you gotta be kiddin' me. Joel who? Cassidy?? Dude who rocked it with Kells when he was in his Zorro faze?

NY dudes crack me up; no doubt some nice rappers have come from out there, but not lately. And I mean not in the past 10 years lately.

Naw fam, you clearly one of the dudes I'm talkin' bout.

You're proving my point.

All you're talking about is mainstream hits and +*++...so Budden is garbage because he hasn't come out with a hit since Pump It Up?

Cassidyain't even FROM NY so that's another one there...I don't understand why +$!!%# got this knack of certifying that rap +$!!%# are GARBAGE and TRASHjust because they're not relevant in the mainstreams' eyes...the !!@* does that have to do with how they rap? Sure, they ain't getting connected onthat main event scene like all these other rappers but that says nothing about their rapping ability...I think people say this to comfort themselves or theygive themselves a reason not to listen to it..."oh well, he hasn't had a hit since '03 so he MUST be garbage" "well Jada hasn't hadan album that went plat yet so he MUST be garbage".....

Dudes are misinformed...

"Less about the product, more about the digits
As a business, we got less fans and more critics..."

Originally Posted by money033

new york has nas/jay thats it!...everyone else is either weak or aint doing NOTHING...besides everyone who comes out of new york has no personality..everyones raps about the same stuff...sounds the same..dresses the same...almost nothing seperates them apart...i mean c'mon...who was the last person to come out of new york and b different...busta rhymes?everyones got the same swagger or i mean everyone wants the same swagger..so i guess if you like one ny rapper you like them them all...atleast westcoast has flava...from northern cali to southern cali..n stop putting fab on your list..dude really could be missed from hip hop..prolly jada too...n i mess with them tho...but honestly...they havent done anything this decade..wait fab was on the bed remix.my bad

I mean, I was gonna reply to that $+*$#!%% but...you talking about...swagger. Swagger. 'Nuff said.

 

[22 deuces 22]

new york has nas/jay thats it!...everyone else is either weak or aint doing NOTHING...besides everyone who comes out of new york has no personality..everyones raps about the same stuff...sounds the same..dresses the same...almost nothing seperates them apart...i mean c'mon...who was the last person to come out of new york and b different...busta rhymes?everyones got the same swagger or i mean everyone wants the same swagger..so i guess if you like one ny rapper you like them them all...atleast westcoast has flava...from northern cali to southern cali..n stop putting fab on your list..dude really could be missed from hip hop..prolly jada too...n i mess with them tho...but honestly...they havent done anything this decade..wait fab was on the bed remix.my bad
Okay, let's roll with your idea that all NY has is Jay and Nas....who does the Bay Area have?

You got a Mac Dre avatar

, so I shouldn't even address you...but i'll just saythat NY's 10th best rapper is easily > the Bays best rapper.

 

[caliwestcoast1]

Originally Posted by 22 Deuces 22

at new york better than every region combined...you see that is your OPINION????? new york fell off...for the record joe buddens is weak..jada and fab can't make albums..you see how i said that?that must be my opinion..cus u must dissagree...i tried..believe me new york i tried...only dudes i mess with from new york is nas/jay-z...mayb dmx b4 the addiction...diplomats..?weak.. i mean i tried...bt IMO westcoast >>>> new york....yall wish yall still had big...as a matter of fact south>>>new york...bt new york...I TRIED

As long as NY got Nas, Jay, Fab, Jada, AZ, etc...NOBODY is seeing NY just off the strength of those dudes alone.



NY started the hip hop trend no doubt...but the west got it too dog...tupac, (young) snoop, ice cube and ice t, even the D.O.C, deL the funky homosapien andtoo short, richie rich to name a few so dont bring that NY stuff nobody seeing stuff...biggie aint even that great either...YES mark my wordsBIGGIE=overhyped...you're prob gonna say so is tupac yes he is hyped but hes worth the hype...and NO WAY THE SOUTH IS BETTER THAN NY


anyways back to the topic...i do agree that some bay area rap fans are kinda biased when it comes to hyphy stuff...mac dre and e-40 riders u know...i bet noone even heard of mac dre before he died

...i know im from here and icant have a true hip hop/rap conversation without them saying mac dre, 40 and even keak the geek (who i cant even understand due to his hoarse voice) and yese-40 was decent cap'n save-a-ho and 1 Luv just to name a few...even back in the 2000s when he was with fab and the cLipse he was a g then came the hyphymovement and its a shame thats how he gets recognized...yet dudes up here base off from the hyphy stuff...THAT IS NOT HIP HOP...i remember he was nominated forbest new artist when ghetto report card came out his weakest aLbum ever too

...took him 14 aLbums to get to this?...i guess when you feed everyone BS they start enjoying that BS