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Never said I did, nice reading comprehension & interpretation though.
Actually that isn't the most important stat, the most important stat will be voter turnout.
ELECTION DAY 2008:........... Barack Obama, the next President of the United States of America
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Actually that isn't the most important stat, the most important stat will be voter turnout.
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Look at what the other candidates agree on. Will Obama or McCain agree to these principals too?
We Agree
The Republican/Democrat duopoly has, for far too long, ignored the most important issues facing our nation. However, alternate candidates Chuck Baldwin,Cynthia McKinney, and Ralph Nader agree with Ron Paul on four key principles central to the health of our nation. These principles should be key in theconsiderations of every voter this November and in every election.
We Agree
Foreign Policy: The Iraq War must end as quickly as possible with removal of all our soldiers from the region. We must initiate the return of our soldiers fromaround the world, including Korea, Japan, Europe and the entire Middle East. We must cease the war propaganda, threats of a blockade and plans for attacks onIran, nor should we re-ignite the cold war with Russia over Georgia. We must be willing to talk to all countries and offer friendship and trade and travel toall who are willing. We must take off the table the threat of a nuclear first strike against all nations.
Privacy: We must protect the privacy and civil liberties of all persons under US jurisdiction. We must repeal or radically change the Patriot Act, the MilitaryCommissions Act, and the FISA legislation. We must reject the notion and practice of torture, eliminations of habeas corpus, secret tribunals, and secretprisons. We must deny immunity for corporations that spy willingly on the people for the benefit of the government. We must reject the unitary presidency, theillegal use of signing statements and excessive use of executive orders.
The National Debt: We believe that there should be no increase in the national debt. The burden of debt placed on the next generation is unjust and alreadythreatening our economy and the value of our dollar. We must pay our bills as we go along and not unfairly place this burden on a future generation.
The Federal Reserve: We seek a thorough investigation, evaluation and audit of the Federal Reserve System and its cozy relationships with the banking,corporate, and other financial institutions. The arbitrary power to create money and credit out of thin air behind closed doors for the benefit of commercialinterests must be ended. There should be no taxpayer bailouts of corporations and no corporate subsidies. Corporations should be aggressively prosecuted fortheir crimes and frauds.
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These candidates including former presidential candidate Ron Paul, have always discuss the real issues that is affecting our country. I don't supportcandidates that are corporte sponsored. Who will you think they'll listen to more? You, with your $20 donation or to the corporation that donatesmillions. Lets look at the other candidates too. You may have more in common with them than you think.
I was going to vote for Ron Paul if hes was still running. But Nader will be my choice.
We Agree
The Republican/Democrat duopoly has, for far too long, ignored the most important issues facing our nation. However, alternate candidates Chuck Baldwin,Cynthia McKinney, and Ralph Nader agree with Ron Paul on four key principles central to the health of our nation. These principles should be key in theconsiderations of every voter this November and in every election.
We Agree
Foreign Policy: The Iraq War must end as quickly as possible with removal of all our soldiers from the region. We must initiate the return of our soldiers fromaround the world, including Korea, Japan, Europe and the entire Middle East. We must cease the war propaganda, threats of a blockade and plans for attacks onIran, nor should we re-ignite the cold war with Russia over Georgia. We must be willing to talk to all countries and offer friendship and trade and travel toall who are willing. We must take off the table the threat of a nuclear first strike against all nations.
Privacy: We must protect the privacy and civil liberties of all persons under US jurisdiction. We must repeal or radically change the Patriot Act, the MilitaryCommissions Act, and the FISA legislation. We must reject the notion and practice of torture, eliminations of habeas corpus, secret tribunals, and secretprisons. We must deny immunity for corporations that spy willingly on the people for the benefit of the government. We must reject the unitary presidency, theillegal use of signing statements and excessive use of executive orders.
The National Debt: We believe that there should be no increase in the national debt. The burden of debt placed on the next generation is unjust and alreadythreatening our economy and the value of our dollar. We must pay our bills as we go along and not unfairly place this burden on a future generation.
The Federal Reserve: We seek a thorough investigation, evaluation and audit of the Federal Reserve System and its cozy relationships with the banking,corporate, and other financial institutions. The arbitrary power to create money and credit out of thin air behind closed doors for the benefit of commercialinterests must be ended. There should be no taxpayer bailouts of corporations and no corporate subsidies. Corporations should be aggressively prosecuted fortheir crimes and frauds.
http://www.campaignforliberty.com/blog/?p=484http://www.campaignforliberty.com/blog/?p=484
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These candidates including former presidential candidate Ron Paul, have always discuss the real issues that is affecting our country. I don't supportcandidates that are corporte sponsored. Who will you think they'll listen to more? You, with your $20 donation or to the corporation that donatesmillions. Lets look at the other candidates too. You may have more in common with them than you think.
I was going to vote for Ron Paul if hes was still running. But Nader will be my choice.
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if McCain wins, i feel bad for 90% of this board.....unless of course, you practice cronyism.
R.I.P. to all the victims of 9/11 and God bless their families
R.I.P. to all the victims of 9/11 and God bless their families
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Man %+*#! Why the hell does Columbia always keep getting all the damn speakers? Shoulda had it at Cornell
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She's a "cocky wacko," he told a Washington think tank earlier this week.
mavrx
Banned
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You should know this by now TBONE...Polls only count when obama is leading in them, DUH!!!...
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Originally Posted by Barack 0drama
Damon and Olbermann burying this campaign.
Nail in the coffin...
got' em
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aha haha adduuuhh.
I never put a lot into these polls, even when Obama was winning. Cause it doesn't matter right now. It matters in November.
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Originally Posted by FeelMode
Originally Posted by Barack 0drama
Damon and Olbermann burying this campaign.
Nail in the coffin...
got' em
Mccain really put his foot in his mouth trying to gain support for the surge.
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^ Co-sign
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This will probably be Palin's only interview until the debate so ABC is milking this thing for all its worth.
Watch Charles Gibson's exclusive interviews with Gov. Sarah Palin
1. World News Thursday 9/11 6.30pm
2. Nightline Thursday 9/11 11.30pm
3. Good Morning America 9/12 7 a.m.
4. World News Friday 9/12 6.30pm
5. 20/20 Friday 9/12 10pm
Watch Charles Gibson's exclusive interviews with Gov. Sarah Palin
1. World News Thursday 9/11 6.30pm
2. Nightline Thursday 9/11 11.30pm
3. Good Morning America 9/12 7 a.m.
4. World News Friday 9/12 6.30pm
5. 20/20 Friday 9/12 10pm
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Busted!: Gallup, CBS, USA.Today, etc. Tinkers With Party ID Again
Cliffnotes:
Cliffnotes:
Gallup's tracking poll, USA Today and CBS News all show the Republicans with some kind of lead over the Democratic ticket. But, interestingly, all three polls were also conducted using a higher sampling of Republican voters than in July, thus raising a question of methodology.
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Originally Posted by Barack 0drama
I can't wait for the debates...McCain and Palin are gonna get tore out of the frame...Palin especially.
I'm not letting McCain/Palin ruin our future...
Keep thinking all that
Just like G-Dub was going to get killed.... then won the majority of all the debates.
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lol..Bush got owned in that first debate with Kerry.
BTW did they ever figure out what that weird bulge in his back was in the rest of the debates? pause.
BTW did they ever figure out what that weird bulge in his back was in the rest of the debates? pause.
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Originally Posted by TBONE95860
Originally Posted by Barack 0drama
I can't wait for the debates...McCain and Palin are gonna get tore out of the frame...Palin especially.
I'm not letting McCain/Palin ruin our future...
Keep thinking all that
Just like G-Dub was going to get killed.... then won the majority of all the debates.
Transmission receiver?
Oh and since you like polls. . .
http://abcnews.go.com/sec...4/debate_poll_040930.html
Oct. 1, 2004- John Kerry won the first debate and with it a shot at reinvigorating his campaign for the presidency, an ABC News poll found. But in the first blush, vote preferences among viewers were unmoved.
Among a random sample of 531 registered voters who watched the debate, 45 percent called Kerry the winner, 36 percent said it was President Bush and 17 percent called it a tie. It was a clean win for Kerry: Independents by a 20-point margin said he prevailed.
[font=geneva,arial,helvetica]Who Won? (Among Debate Viewers)[/font][font=geneva,arial,helvetica]Kerry[/font] [font=geneva,arial,helvetica]45%[/font] [font=geneva,arial,helvetica]Bush[/font] [font=geneva,arial,helvetica]36[/font] [font=geneva,arial,helvetica]Tie[/font] [font=geneva,arial,helvetica]17[/font]
Tbone =
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Yikes, http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/
a statistical mastermind & avid Obama supporter who does Electoral College projects....
now has McCain ahead in the Electoral College for the 1st time since this spring
of course this is only temporarily and I'm sure Obama will take back the lead shortly.... then McCain will take it back again later..... then Obama againafter that....
as the election makes its way to November
a statistical mastermind & avid Obama supporter who does Electoral College projects....
now has McCain ahead in the Electoral College for the 1st time since this spring
of course this is only temporarily and I'm sure Obama will take back the lead shortly.... then McCain will take it back again later..... then Obama againafter that....
as the election makes its way to November
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Whats up with the editing. He'll ask a question and then it will edit chop to her answer.
Charlie is holding no punches....
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she is running around the questions like Usain Bolt.
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her first interview wasn't good. it kind of contradicts her belief on war before she was the nominee. now she's trigger happy just likemccain. oh man, we might have WWIII under this administrationOriginally Posted by outacontrol music
@ her on this interview....
Whats up with the editing. He'll ask a question and then it will edit chop to her answer.
Charlie is holding no punches....
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it sounded to me that she was trying to give a diplomatic/ super power answer which i didnt know was possible.Originally Posted by nyk buc
her first interview wasn't good. it kind of contradicts her belief on war before she was the nominee. now she's trigger happy just like mccain. oh man, we might have WWIII under this administrationOriginally Posted by outacontrol music
@ her on this interview....
Whats up with the editing. He'll ask a question and then it will edit chop to her answer.
Charlie is holding no punches....
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She got caught up in the God's plan question and about sending her son off...
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FUMBLERUSKIE..
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[h3]Today's Polls, 9/11[/h3]
Here is a comparison of our projected margins of victory on August 26th -- the Tuesday of the Democratic convention, before polling had any chance to take Michelle Obama's opening night speech into effect -- with our projections today in a select group of states that have been polled since the RNC ended.
McCain's gain in our popular vote projection has been 2.1 points. Note, however, that his gains have been less than that in essentially all of themost important swing states, including Ohio, Michigan, Florida, Colorado, Pennsylvania and New Hampshire. Only Virginia is on the other side of the line, andthen only barely so.
As a result of all this, the Electoral College remains too close to call, even though McCain has a 1-2 point advantage in the popular vote. Obama now has an 8.4 percent chance of winning the Electoral College while losing the popular vote, which is far and away the highest that this number has been all year. And that number may get larger rather than smaller, once polling filters in from other red states like Texas, Nebraska and South Carolina. Palin may have been a brilliant VP selection -- I think even Palinophobes like me have to concede that right now McCain's looking pretty savvy -- but some of that sheen is taken off by her somewhat lackluster effect on the Electoral College.
Here is a comparison of our projected margins of victory on August 26th -- the Tuesday of the Democratic convention, before polling had any chance to take Michelle Obama's opening night speech into effect -- with our projections today in a select group of states that have been polled since the RNC ended.
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State 8/26 9/11 ChangeNH Obama +1.4 Obama +3.3 Obama +1.9WV McCain +8.1 McCain +7.4 Obama +0.7ME Obama +12.9 Obama +13.0 Obama +0.1FL McCain +3.5 McCain +3.8 McCain +0.3NJ Obama +8.0 Obama +7.5 McCain +0.5OH McCain +0.7 McCain +1.3 McCain +0.6NM Obama +2.2 Obama +1.5 McCain +0.7MI Obama +3.0 Obama +2.0 McCain +1.0WI Obama +7.1 Obama +5.8 McCain +1.3CO Obama +1.2 McCain +0.4 McCain +1.6PA Obama +6.3 Obama +4.6 McCain +1.7NV McCain +0.5 McCain +2.2 McCain +1.7==============AVERAGE: McCAIN +2.1 ===============VA McCain +0.6 McCain +3.1 McCain +2.5ND McCain +9.1 McCain +12.5 McCain +3.4NC McCain +3.8 McCain +7.5 McCain +3.7MS McCain +13.4 McCain +17.4 McCain +4.0MT McCain +3.5 McCain +8.3 McCain +4.8GA McCain +8.5 McCain +13.5 McCain +5.0WA Obama +11.5 Obama +6.3 McCain +5.2ID McCain +19.1 McCain +30.0 McCain +11.9AK McCain +6.6 McCain +20.4 McCain +13.8As a result of all this, the Electoral College remains too close to call, even though McCain has a 1-2 point advantage in the popular vote. Obama now has an 8.4 percent chance of winning the Electoral College while losing the popular vote, which is far and away the highest that this number has been all year. And that number may get larger rather than smaller, once polling filters in from other red states like Texas, Nebraska and South Carolina. Palin may have been a brilliant VP selection -- I think even Palinophobes like me have to concede that right now McCain's looking pretty savvy -- but some of that sheen is taken off by her somewhat lackluster effect on the Electoral College.
