ELECTION DAY 2008:........... Barack Obama, the next President of the United States of America

Originally Posted by FinesseSosa

Uh Oh...

TBONE pulled a Cam'Ron on us...
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Hmm...

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At least he checks in every once in a while. Good to know he still somewhat cares about NT...
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If TBONE is Cam, then mr. delorean is Mase...

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Oh where art thee?
 
[h3]Polling Data[/h3][table][tr][th=""]Poll[/th] [th=""]Date[/th] [th=""]Sample[/th] [th=""]Obama (D)[/th] [th=""]McCain (R)[/th] [th=""]Spread[/th] [/tr][tr][td]RCP Average[/td] [td]09/26 - 10/03[/td] [td]--[/td] [td]49.3[/td] [td]43.4[/td] [td]Obama +5.9[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Gallup Tracking[/td] [td]10/01 - 10/03[/td] [td]2703 RV[/td] [td]50[/td] [td]42[/td] [td]Obama +8[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Rasmussen Tracking[/td] [td]10/01 - 10/03[/td] [td]3000 LV[/td] [td]51[/td] [td]45[/td] [td]Obama +6[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Hotline/FD Tracking[/td] [td]10/01 - 10/03[/td] [td]915 LV[/td] [td]48[/td] [td]41[/td] [td]Obama +7[/td] [/tr][tr][td]GW/Battleground Tracking[/td] [td]09/29 - 10/02[/td] [td]800 LV[/td] [td]49[/td] [td]46[/td] [td]Obama +3[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Marist[/td] [td]09/28 - 09/30[/td] [td]943 LV[/td] [td]49[/td] [td]44[/td] [td]Obama +5[/td] [/tr][tr][td]CBS News[/td] [td]09/27 - 09/30[/td] [td]769 LV[/td] [td]50[/td] [td]41[/td] [td]Obama +9[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Associated Press/GfK[/td] [td]09/27 - 09/30[/td] [td]808 LV[/td] [td]48[/td] [td]41[/td] [td]Obama +7[/td] [/tr][tr][td]ABC News/Wash Post[/td] [td]09/27 - 09/29[/td] [td]916 LV[/td] [td]50[/td] [td]46[/td] [td]Obama +4[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Pew Research[/td] [td]09/27 - 09/29[/td] [td]1181 LV[/td] [td]49[/td] [td]43[/td] [td]Obama +6[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Ipsos/McClatchy[/td] [td]09/26 - 09/29[/td] [td]1007 RV[/td] [td]48[/td] [td]45[/td] [td]Obama +3[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Time[/td] [td]09/26 - 09/29[/td] [td]1133 LV[/td] [td]50[/td] [td]43[/td] [td]Obama +7[/td] [/tr][/table]
Interesting tidibit. The Gallup poll where Obama is now up 8pts includes polling from Thursday night's debate so essentially he gained 3 points after thedebate.
 
Also Expect John McCain to go negative for the rest of the presidential race. Desperation is starting to set in.

McCain Plans Fiercer Strategy Against Obama

By Michael D. Shear
Washington Post Staff Writer
Saturday, October 4, 2008; A01


Sen. John McCain and his Republican allies are readying a newly aggressive assault on Sen. Barack Obama's character, believing that to win in November they must shift the conversation back to questions about the Democrat's judgment, honesty and personal associations, several top Republicans said.

With just a month to go until Election Day, McCain's team has decided that its emphasis on the senator's biography as a war hero, experienced lawmaker and straight-talking maverick is insufficient to close a growing gap with Obama. The Arizonan's campaign is also eager to move the conversation away from the economy, an issue that strongly favors Obama and has helped him to a lead in many recent polls.

"We're going to get a little tougher," a senior Republican operative said, indicating that a fresh batch of television ads is coming. "We've got to question this guy's associations. Very soon. There's no question that we have to change the subject here," said the operative, who was not authorized to discuss strategy and spoke on the condition of anonymity.

Being so aggressive has risks for McCain if it angers swing voters, who often say they are looking for candidates who offer a positive message about what they will do. That could be especially true this year, when frustration with Washington politics is acute and a desire for specifics on how to fix the economy and fight the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan is strong.

Robert Gibbs, a top Obama adviser, dismissed the new McCain strategy. "This isn't 1988," he said. "I don't think the country is going to be distracted by the trivial." He added that Obama will continue to focus on the economy, saying that Americans will remain concerned about the country's economic troubles even as the Wall Street crisis eases somewhat.

Moments after the House of Representatives approved a bailout package for Wall Street on Friday afternoon, the McCain campaign released a television ad that challenges Obama's honesty and asks, "Who is Barack Obama?" The ad alleges that "Senator Obama voted 94 times for higher taxes. Ninety-four times. He's not truthful on taxes." The charge that Obama voted 94 times for higher taxes has been called misleading by independent fact-checkers, who have noted that the majority of those votes were on nonbinding budget resolutions.

A senior campaign official called the ad "just the beginning" of commercials that will "strike the new tone" in the campaign's final days. The official said the "aggressive tone" will center on the question of "whether this guy is ready to be president."

McCain's only positive commercial, called "Original Mavericks," has largely been taken off the air, according to Evan Tracey of the Campaign Media Analysis Group, which tracks political ads.

Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin's performance at Thursday night's debate embodied the new approach, as she used every opportunity to question Obama's honesty and fitness to serve as president. At one point she said, "Barack Obama voted against funding troops [in Iraq] after promising that he would not do so."

Palin kept up the attack yesterday, saying in an interview on Fox News that Obama is "reckless" and that some of what he has said, "in my world, disqualifies someone from consideration as the next commander in chief."

McCain hinted Thursday that a change is imminent, perhaps as soon as next week's debate. Asked at a Colorado town hall, "When are you going to take the gloves off?" the candidate grinned and replied, "How about Tuesday night?"

Yesterday in Pueblo, Colo., McCain made clear that he intends to press Obama on a variety of familiar GOP themes during the debate, as he accused the Democrat once again of getting ready to raise taxes and increase government spending.

"I guarantee you, you're going to learn a lot about who's the liberal and who's the conservative and who wants to raise your taxes and who wants to lower them," McCain said.

A senior aide said the campaign will wait until after Tuesday's debate to decide how and when to release new commercials, adding that McCain and his surrogates will continue to cast Obama as a big spender, a high taxer and someone who talks about working across the aisle but doesn't deliver.

Two other top Republicans said the new ads are likely to hammer the senator from Illinois on his connections to convicted Chicago developer Antoin "Tony" Rezko and former radical William Ayres, whom the McCain campaign regularly calls a domestic terrorist because of his acts of violence against the U.S. government in the 1960s.

The Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr. appears to be off limits after McCain condemned the North Carolina Republican Party in April for an ad that linked Obama to his former pastor, saying, "Unfortunately, all I can do is, in as visible a way as possible, disassociate myself from that kind of campaigning."

McCain advisers said the new approach is in part a reaction to Obama, whose rhetoric on the stump and in commercials has also become far harsher and more aggressive.

They noted that Obama has run television commercials for months linking McCain to lobbyists and hinting at a lack of personal ethics -- an allegation that particularly rankles McCain, aides said.

Campaigning in Abington, Pa., yesterday, Obama continued to focus on the economy, even as he lashed out at McCain.

"He's now going around saying, 'I'm going to crack down on Wall Street' . . . but the truth is he's been saying 'I'm all for deregulation' for 26 years," Obama said. "He hasn't been getting tough on CEOs. He hasn't been getting tough on Wall Street. . . . Suddenly a crisis comes and the polls change, and suddenly he's out there talking like Jesse Jackson."

Obama highlighted a new report showing a reduction of more than 159,000 jobs last month, and he linked the bad economic news to McCain and Palin.

"Governor Palin said to Joe Biden that our plan to get our economy out of the ditch was somehow a job-killing plan; that's what she said," Obama told a crowd of thousands. "I wonder if she turned on the news this morning. . . . When Senator McCain and his running mate talk about job killing, that's something they know a thing or two about, because the policies they've supported and are supporting are killing jobs in America every single day."

McCain issued a statement yesterday saying the bailout bill "is not perfect, and it is an outrage that it's even necessary. But we must stop the damage to our economy done by corrupt and incompetent practices on Wall Street and in Washington."

Speaking in Pueblo just as the House was finishing deliberations on the package, McCain blamed fellow lawmakers for the failure to adequately regulate the mortgage giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

"It was the Democrats and some Republicans in the Congress who pushed back and did not allow those reforms to take place, and that's a major reason we are in the trouble we are in today," he said. "Those members of Congress ought to be held accountable on November 4th as well."

Before the bailout crisis, aides said, McCain was succeeding in focusing attention on Obama's record and character. Now, they say, he must return to those subjects.

"We are looking for a very aggressive last 30 days," said Greg Strimple, one of McCain's top advisers. "We are looking forward to turning a page on this financial crisis and getting back to discussing Mr. Obama's aggressively liberal record and how he will be too risky for Americans."



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http://www.washingtonpost...3/AR2008100303738_pf.html[/h1]
Edit: No sooner in me posting this article Ms. Palin goes on the attack.

[h1]Palin says Obama 'palling around' with terrorists[/h1]
By JIM KUHNHENN - 13 minutes ago

ENGLEWOOD, Colo. (AP) - Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin on Saturday accused Democrat Barack Obama of "palling around withterrorists" because of his association with a former 1960s radical, stepping up the campaign's effort to portray Obama as unacceptable to Americanvoters.

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5h2TC1ztefVzOiXeCNcmY7lIelBNwD93JSBFO0http://ap.google.com/arti...iXeCNcmY7lIelBNwD93JSBFO0
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Want to know where I was?

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Banned for a couple of weeks
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If you want to know why forsome reason you can just PM me if your curiosity is that high.
I've read through some of the political posts on NT while I was gone while I was banned but really not TOO many. I haven't been on NT too much latelysince school started.

So all those claiming I left because McCain is losing, please... nice try.

And to all those claiming I posted so much only when McCain was winning.... you are pathetic & that statement is absurd. I made this thread in November of2007
Also want to know why it's absurd?? Because if that were the case I wouldn't have hundreds & hundreds ofposts in this thread spanning over 11 months when Obama was leading in the polls for 90+% of that time. See the graphic....
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I rest my case.



Now onto the current state of the election....
If you've followed my posts you'd know what I've previously stated about how the 2008 Election was shaped up from the beginning and how I saidit'd unfold:
I've stated numerous times that this is the perfect environment for Obama to win and have stated the reasons why (& that is why I have said whyisn't he winning by more)...
1. Bush is the President & not only is his approval rating terrible but LOTS of liberals flat out hate him
2. The Iraq War is unpopular
3. The economy has been on the decline and/or bad for quite some time (only recently got worse)
4. A republican has been in office for the past 8 years and this country goes through cycles of Republican/Democrat/Republican/Democrat dating in relativelyfrequent intervals
4A. ^ in other words ready for "change", whether it's good or bad change... doesn't matter.

And I've said my conclusion is that Barack Obama SHOULD win and likely WILL win.

That being said I've of course 100% supported McCain to win and have said/thought he had a pretty good chance at winning (and until the financial meltdownoccurred he did) & there is still a slim possibility that he could still win (who knows what will occur in the next 25-30 days) but it seems unlikely atthis point that he will win.

No one should be surprised that Barack Obama will more then likely win this election.
Not Democrats. Not liberals.
Not Republicans. Not conservatives.
I'm not surprised and never thought he didn't have a good chance at winning.
The situation is perfect for him to be elected, period.

And if you think this is some sort of cop out answer for McCain being down in the polls then you're flat out wrong.
Save the comments, they'd be false and a waste of your time.
I've tried going back to find the several posts I've already made on this very subject... but as you all know... NT search function FTL

With that being said Obama will likely become President at a time when there are many very serious issues that need to be dealt with. This is one hell of atime to become President. It's really not a great time to become President if you had to choose. If McCain would have/were to win I'd say the sameexact thing. The challenges that will face the next President are going to be large and god bless whoever is President.
As far as Obama is concerned, he's going to have 4 years to try and keep all of these grand promises, try to "change" how things are, and attemptto solve some of the problems that currently face us and are going to face us in the (near) future. Personally I think he's going to have one hell of atime accomplishing all this. However, if 60 senators are elected in a month that'd definitely help him.


Feel free to take all your little cheap shots you want and make all your snide remarks you want.
I've been amazed at how many people had my name in their mouth while I was banned for a few weeks
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It was entertaining reading people taking shots.

I think that about covers it, all I can think to say at this juncture, so If anyone has any serious questions about myopinion on any political related topics that have occurred lately feel free to ask.

---TBONE


PS: McCain isn't the best candidate (although there are lots of things about him I do like) and he's not conservativeenough for my liking (and many other conservatives). Prime example #1 lately = voting for the stupid $700 billion bailout deal. McCain should have voted NO
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[the Republican United States Congressman who represents the areawhere I live voted NO]
 
Thank God youre back.

theres way too many election threads. we need to keep all the news in the post again.

btw welcome back, what did you think of the VP debate?
 
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and you return.

Right now, Obama controls his own destiny, IMO. As long as he doesn't $*!+ up completely down the line he should have it in the bag. I think independentvoters will lean toward him.
 
I'll make some more actual comments tomorrow & respond to people but I'm about to go to bed. Here's some information firstthough.


[table][tr][th=""]Poll[/th] [th=""]Date[/th] [th=""]Sample[/th] [th=""]Obama (D)[/th] [th=""]McCain (R)[/th] [th=""]Spread[/th] [/tr][tr][td]RCP Average[/td] [td]10/01 - 10/06[/td] [td]--[/td] [td]49.6[/td] [td]44.1[/td] [td]Obama +5.5[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Gallup Tracking[/td] [td]10/04 - 10/06[/td] [td]2747 RV[/td] [td]51[/td] [td]42[/td] [td]Obama +9[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Rasmussen Tracking[/td] [td]10/04 - 10/06[/td] [td]3000 LV[/td] [td]52[/td] [td]44[/td] [td]Obama +8[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Hotline/FD Tracking[/td] [td]10/04 - 10/06[/td] [td]908 LV[/td] [td]46[/td] [td]44[/td] [td]Obama +2[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Reuters/CSpan/Zogby Tracking[/td] [td]10/04 - 10/06[/td] [td]1237 LV[/td] [td]48[/td] [td]45[/td] [td]Obama +3[/td] [/tr][tr][td]NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl[/td] [td]10/04 - 10/05[/td] [td]658 RV[/td] [td]49[/td] [td]43[/td] [td]Obama +6[/td] [/tr][tr][td]CBS News[/td] [td]10/03 - 10/05[/td] [td]616 LV[/td] [td]48[/td] [td]45[/td] [td]Obama +3[/td] [/tr][tr][td]CNN[/td] [td]10/03 - 10/05[/td] [td]694 LV[/td] [td]53[/td] [td]45[/td] [td]Obama +8[/td] [/tr][tr][td]GW/Battleground Tracking[/td] [td]10/01 - 10/06[/td] [td]800 LV[/td] [td]50[/td] [td]43[/td] [td]Obama +7[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Democracy Corps (D)[/td] [td]10/01 - 10/05[/td] [td]1000 LV[/td] [td]49[/td] [td]46[/td] [td]Obama +3[/td] [/tr][/table]http://voices.washingtonpost.com/thefix/2008/10/obamas_spending_edge.html
[h1]McCain, Obama spar
on economy, leadership[/h1]
Squaring off in the second of three debates, Barack Obama and John McCain drew sharp differences over the origin of domestic and international problems -- and how to tackle them. Obama tied McCain to President Bush on Iraq and economic deregulation, while McCain painted Obama as overly reliant on government. full story
• Obama Follows DebateWith Fundraiser at Gore's Home
• ACORN OfficeRaided in Voter Fraud Investigation
• FraudPotential Impacted by Early Voting

McCain would buy bad homeowner mortgages...
Obama backer hands TV earpiece to Romney: 'I spiton this'...
Obama money from abroad could total $3.3 million...
 Obama OutspendingMcCain Nearly 3 to 1 on TV...


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Polls before I go to school....

Wednesday, October 08[table][tr][th=""]Race (Click to Sort)[/th] [th=""]Poll[/th] [th=""]Results[/th] [th=""]Spread[/th] [/tr][tr][td]Wisconsin[/td] [td] Rasmussen[/td] [td]Obama 54, McCain 44[/td] [td]Obama +10[/td] [/tr][tr][td]National[/td] [td]Rasmussen Tracking[/td] [td]Obama 51, McCain 45[/td] [td]Obama +6[/td] [/tr][tr][td]National[/td] [td]Reuters/CSpan/Zogby Tracking[/td] [td]Obama 47, McCain 45[/td] [td]Obama +2[/td] [/tr][tr][td]National[/td] [td]Hotline/FD Tracking[/td] [td]Obama 45, McCain 44[/td] [td]Obama +1[/td] [/tr][tr][td]National[/td] [td]GW/Battleground Tracking[/td] [td]Obama 49, McCain 45[/td] [td]Obama +4[/td] [/tr][/table]

Originally Posted by KB8isCLUTCH

welcome back man. laker season is upon us
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Thank you & thank goodness
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Lake Show going to be aforce this year.

Originally Posted by FinesseSosa

http://forums.hannity.com/showthread.php?t=952311http://forums.hannity.com/showthread.php?t=952311

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Hannity message boards
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Got to have a conservative boards I go to.
Here's the other message board I go to (but don't post at) if you care to look...
http://www.hillaryclinton...ion/forumdisplay.php?f=84
 
yo T-BONE, i said it before and id say it gain

props to you my man, no matter how many people try to attack you, you always com back and update up with the news
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Man indicted in hacking of Palin's e-mail account...

...Son of Dem state lawmaker in TN

 Cops: Man threatened to shoot election officialsover tardy voter registration card...
DEBATE RATES: LOWER THAN VP...

63.2 Million Watch...

From NBC's Domenico Montanaro
63.2 million people watched last night's town hall debate between McCain and Obama, according to Nielsen. That is up fromthe first debate, which drew 52.4 million, but is less than the Biden-Palin VP debate, which watched by 69.9 million.
UPDATE: Alleging fraud, authorities raid ACORN in Vegas; canvassers filled outforms with fake names...

Feds investigating sheriff after Barack'Hussein' remark...

SLIP: Biden introduced as'John McCain' at Florida event...

McCain renewing harsh criticism of Obama...

Biden calls Palin's criticism 'mildly dangerous'...
Originally Posted by wanksta23

yo T-BONE, i said it before and id say it gain

props to you my man, no matter how many people try to attack you, you always com back and update up with the news
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Thank you. Appreciated.
 
I know this is ultra out of nowhere but has anybody else thought about Palin saying NT'ers screen names? TBOWNE
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. Excuse me for my lameness lol.
 
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