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Originally Posted by DAYTONA 5000
Are you guys ******ed? You asked what change is he going to bring. The only change he will bring is his skin color. THAT IS IT. I can't believe you guys are so blind. And please tell me why I don't deserve the Malcolm X avy. It's because I don't believe the hype right?
I couldn't say it better. eNPHAN speaks the truth.Originally Posted by eNPHAN
i wouldn't call him scum...Originally Posted by I R Andre
Republicans are truly scum, this dude got like a 400K house and hes like "he's gonna tax me the same way like under clinton so poor people can maybe prosperOriginally Posted by HOVKid
Nice to see a black dude become president....though it would be better if he was 100% black instead of 50%.
Too bad he's a socialist. It makes me sick to know he is going to take my money and give it to someone else.
I can't believe that in these horrible times when people are losing their jobs all over the city this bastard is going to raise our taxes. Pathetic.
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just really selfish with a false sense of entitlement...
me and hov kid have gone back and forth about this issue...
he's really on some "no, its MY money, they just want it because they're LAZY"
i don't think he recognizes how privileged he is, not because he worked hard to get where he's at, but because he had the opportunity to do such...
some people aren't even afforded the opportunity...
which will hopefully change under a new education plan.....
but don't tell him his tiny percentage increase is going to things like education and healthcare, he'd rather maintain that it's going into the pockets of the poor, who are just plain lazy and want a handout...
like i told you before, hovkid, you ain't missin no meals...
Emotions delude and confuse. That's the problem.Originally Posted by eyes of hazel
Slim,Originally Posted by DAYTONA 5000
Are you guys ******ed? You asked what change is he going to bring. The only change he will bring is his skin color. THAT IS IT. I can't believe you guys are so blind. And please tell me why I don't deserve the Malcolm X avy. It's because I don't believe the hype right?
Where is your heart? Not your mind, but your heart?
Where is your F-A-I-T-H?
Don't know your ethnic background, and it doesn't matter.
Faith and hope gets ALL of us through.
Being 100% concrete leaves you in a saltbox, with a limited life span, and bad health...
Originally Posted by Dirtylicious
now lets hope he can accomplish some of what he's promised --
most of the troops out of Iraq.
reduce gov't spending (a byproduct of getting the troops out)
a reformation of the tax code.
a repeal on the ban of stem cell use
a heavy investment into alternative energy
now...roll up the sleeves and get to work
you dont think things will get better in your lifetime? i feel sorry for you.Originally Posted by ittakesalittlebitmore
Originally Posted by MexicanSoul
In our history, we've witnessed a criminal lead our country for eight years who will leave office richer and clear of any crime. Bush took over the country and now Obama will do some spring cleaning and get this country back on track. Can I get an AMEN!Originally Posted by ittakesalittlebitmore
Originally Posted by DAYTONA 5000
The only change is the amount of melanin the president has.Originally Posted by MyTsharp
Originally Posted by CadillacFLOW
After seeing how everybody is soo excited last night and today, I now think it was good that Obama was elected. But.......
I'm just curious to what kind of change everyone thinks he's going to bring?
Its not about the "physical change". Its the mindstate, I'm only 25 years old but I have never seen people in cities dancing in the streets. Honking their horns and and cheering from their cars. People partied in DC last night. Its the feeling of excitement and relief that it brings. That's what 'change' is about. My-T.
To expand upon that, I believe what we have here is not so much that people have made the right choice...rather, it is the illusion of choice that has many dancing in the streets. Do you think even for one second that those in power, I mean those in real power, the ones not discussed as much as the visible figures in the dailies, would for one moment entrust the planets most powerful government & possibly the fate the mankind to someone who wouldnt follow or would dismantle all their aims in one swift stroke?
If you ask me, we're living in the times of the Matrix, where things simply arent as they appear....I simply dont trust it yet.
I sincerely hope you are right but in my heart of hearts I am convinced that you (and many with you) are totally wrong. Obama is such a likeable guy and I wish for him to do every he can to make the world a better place. But I know there are certain things we are not privy too, mechanations that we're not so aware of, people and groups that have an infite more sway over what happens than us voting (which is illusionary in itself).
They want you to feel happy, empowered, that you've 'done the right thing', that we're moving forward, progress if you will. But I would bet my life that in my lifetime things are NOT going to get better, things wont REALLY change, and that anyone who inherits the hotseat of the White House isnt really as much of the 'own person' as you guys seems to think....
They can do that in the UK because the "Royal" family really runs things.Originally Posted by kdwallace
It's just a shame they don't do it like they do in the UK - there would be removal trucks at the White House this morning and he would be sworn in this afternoon.
I know he has a lot of ground to cover in the next few months but I always thought that was kind of cool - hasn't happened in a long time though as there's no maximum term and the same party has been in power for ever.
My man, I feel the exact same way you do, just didn't know how to express myself as well as you did. I think Obama is a likeable guy and all,but I can't even FORCE myself to feel a sense of pride or hope or any of that rhetoric he is preaching. All I will say is just remember what happened lasttime The President's approval rating was at an all time high, he had the full support of the media, and congress would do his bidding without a secondthough...that was only after 9/11. Obama isn't even in office yet. That is beyond scaryOriginally Posted by ittakesalittlebitmore
Originally Posted by MexicanSoul
In our history, we've witnessed a criminal lead our country for eight years who will leave office richer and clear of any crime. Bush took over the country and now Obama will do some spring cleaning and get this country back on track. Can I get an AMEN!Originally Posted by ittakesalittlebitmore
Originally Posted by DAYTONA 5000
The only change is the amount of melanin the president has.Originally Posted by MyTsharp
Originally Posted by CadillacFLOW
After seeing how everybody is soo excited last night and today, I now think it was good that Obama was elected. But.......
I'm just curious to what kind of change everyone thinks he's going to bring?
Its not about the "physical change". Its the mindstate, I'm only 25 years old but I have never seen people in cities dancing in the streets. Honking their horns and and cheering from their cars. People partied in DC last night. Its the feeling of excitement and relief that it brings. That's what 'change' is about. My-T.
To expand upon that, I believe what we have here is not so much that people have made the right choice...rather, it is the illusion of choice that has many dancing in the streets. Do you think even for one second that those in power, I mean those in real power, the ones not discussed as much as the visible figures in the dailies, would for one moment entrust the planets most powerful government & possibly the fate the mankind to someone who wouldnt follow or would dismantle all their aims in one swift stroke?
If you ask me, we're living in the times of the Matrix, where things simply arent as they appear....I simply dont trust it yet.
I sincerely hope you are right but in my heart of hearts I am convinced that you (and many with you) are totally wrong. Obama is such a likeable guy and I wish for him to do every he can to make the world a better place. But I know there are certain things we are not privy too, mechanations that we're not so aware of, people and groups that have an infite more sway over what happens than us voting (which is illusionary in itself).
They want you to feel happy, empowered, that you've 'done the right thing', that we're moving forward, progress if you will. But I would bet my life that in my lifetime things are NOT going to get better, things wont REALLY change, and that anyone who inherits the hotseat of the White House isnt really as much of the 'own person' as you guys seems to think....
Originally Posted by bboy1827
most of you dont seem 2 understand the econimic plan. hes not taxing individual people so much as big businesses. your money will pretty much be safe. socialism is actually a republican idea i.e you get what you work for while helping out as many others as you can. the more important part of yesterday is the fact the legislature is democratic and everyone of them is gonna want 2 help pass history making legislature so damn near everything he proposes will get passed
You do know when Bush's approval rating was the highest right? After 9/11. I shouldn't have to spell the rest out for you.Originally Posted by eNPHAN
Originally Posted by DAYTONA 5000
My man, I feel the exact same way you do, just didn't know how to express myself as well as you did. I think Obama is a likeable guy and all, but I can't even FORCE myself to feel a sense of pride or hope or any of that rhetoric he is preaching. All I will say is just remember what happened last time The President's approval rating was at an all time high, he had the full support of the media, and congress would do his bidding without a second though...that was only after 9/11. Obama isn't even in office yet. That is beyond scaryOriginally Posted by ittakesalittlebitmore
Originally Posted by MexicanSoul
In our history, we've witnessed a criminal lead our country for eight years who will leave office richer and clear of any crime. Bush took over the country and now Obama will do some spring cleaning and get this country back on track. Can I get an AMEN!Originally Posted by ittakesalittlebitmore
Originally Posted by DAYTONA 5000
The only change is the amount of melanin the president has.Originally Posted by MyTsharp
Originally Posted by CadillacFLOW
After seeing how everybody is soo excited last night and today, I now think it was good that Obama was elected. But.......
I'm just curious to what kind of change everyone thinks he's going to bring?
Its not about the "physical change". Its the mindstate, I'm only 25 years old but I have never seen people in cities dancing in the streets. Honking their horns and and cheering from their cars. People partied in DC last night. Its the feeling of excitement and relief that it brings. That's what 'change' is about. My-T.
To expand upon that, I believe what we have here is not so much that people have made the right choice...rather, it is the illusion of choice that has many dancing in the streets. Do you think even for one second that those in power, I mean those in real power, the ones not discussed as much as the visible figures in the dailies, would for one moment entrust the planets most powerful government & possibly the fate the mankind to someone who wouldnt follow or would dismantle all their aims in one swift stroke?
If you ask me, we're living in the times of the Matrix, where things simply arent as they appear....I simply dont trust it yet.
I sincerely hope you are right but in my heart of hearts I am convinced that you (and many with you) are totally wrong. Obama is such a likeable guy and I wish for him to do every he can to make the world a better place. But I know there are certain things we are not privy too, mechanations that we're not so aware of, people and groups that have an infite more sway over what happens than us voting (which is illusionary in itself).
They want you to feel happy, empowered, that you've 'done the right thing', that we're moving forward, progress if you will. But I would bet my life that in my lifetime things are NOT going to get better, things wont REALLY change, and that anyone who inherits the hotseat of the White House isnt really as much of the 'own person' as you guys seems to think....
it's beyond scary that the american public (as a whole) actually like our next president?
Originally Posted by RockDeep
Originally Posted by eNPHAN
i wouldn't call him scum...Originally Posted by I R Andre
Republicans are truly scum, this dude got like a 400K house and hes like "he's gonna tax me the same way like under clinton so poor people can maybe prosperOriginally Posted by HOVKid
Nice to see a black dude become president....though it would be better if he was 100% black instead of 50%.
Too bad he's a socialist. It makes me sick to know he is going to take my money and give it to someone else.
I can't believe that in these horrible times when people are losing their jobs all over the city this bastard is going to raise our taxes. Pathetic.
"![]()
just really selfish with a false sense of entitlement...
me and hov kid have gone back and forth about this issue...
he's really on some "no, its MY money, they just want it because they're LAZY"
i don't think he recognizes how privileged he is, not because he worked hard to get where he's at, but because he had the opportunity to do such...
some people aren't even afforded the opportunity...
which will hopefully change under a new education plan.....
but don't tell him his tiny percentage increase is going to things like education and healthcare, he'd rather maintain that it's going into the pockets of the poor, who are just plain lazy and want a handout...
like i told you before, hovkid, you ain't missin no meals...
HOV.. you and I are in the same Tax Bracket son son... my house cost a tad more than 400K.. almost double in fact, but if you are a smart businessman.. you know how to claim EVERY Tax credit available so 45% of your income isn't taken by the government.
Split your businesses. Get a better accountant.. cause if you are on that level.. you should NEVER be without a good one. I will be only paying MORE for my accountant this year and beyond so he keeps everything I bring in the same amount or less.
You know why alot of Rich people weren't too worried? Cause they all knew the tax loops would protect them as well as the Tax Credits their businesses would recieve. For smoes like us who don't employ others, but do ok for ourselves... its up to us to figure out how we keep the money we have and be happy Bush or McCain isn't in office.
I'll be damned if I get my Healthcare taxed by some dude who has never felt what I have felt in life as far as being poor and having to climb to where I am. I'd rather a dude who finally looks like me and has been a self made man represent over the guy who's life expectancy won't last thru the actual Presidential Term.
Dude.. get over it and instead of complaining figure out how you get around those hurdles.
My Dad ALWAYS said. Don't complain if you can do something about it...and if you aint going to do anything about it why complain?
theres a reason why people projected to make the money obama said he would tax, went out and voted for obama ... i watched as someone more educate dthan myself squeezed 1500 more dollars out of my tax return than i could ... wealthy people in the upper tax brackets arent going to be affected very much ... its the people who are well off, but not well off enough to have a full time accountant stretch their money who will suffer ... someones got to pay for the extra spending ... someones got to pay for those tax credits ... we will see
Originally Posted by RockDeep
Originally Posted by eNPHAN
i wouldn't call him scum...Originally Posted by I R Andre
Republicans are truly scum, this dude got like a 400K house and hes like "he's gonna tax me the same way like under clinton so poor people can maybe prosperOriginally Posted by HOVKid
Nice to see a black dude become president....though it would be better if he was 100% black instead of 50%.
Too bad he's a socialist. It makes me sick to know he is going to take my money and give it to someone else.
I can't believe that in these horrible times when people are losing their jobs all over the city this bastard is going to raise our taxes. Pathetic.
"![]()
just really selfish with a false sense of entitlement...
me and hov kid have gone back and forth about this issue...
he's really on some "no, its MY money, they just want it because they're LAZY"
i don't think he recognizes how privileged he is, not because he worked hard to get where he's at, but because he had the opportunity to do such...
some people aren't even afforded the opportunity...
which will hopefully change under a new education plan.....
but don't tell him his tiny percentage increase is going to things like education and healthcare, he'd rather maintain that it's going into the pockets of the poor, who are just plain lazy and want a handout...
like i told you before, hovkid, you ain't missin no meals...
HOV.. you and I are in the same Tax Bracket son son... my house cost a tad more than 400K.. almost double in fact, but if you are a smart businessman.. you know how to claim EVERY Tax credit available so 45% of your income isn't taken by the government.
Split your businesses. Get a better accountant.. cause if you are on that level.. you should NEVER be without a good one. I will be only paying MORE for my accountant this year and beyond so he keeps everything I bring in the same amount or less.
You know why alot of Rich people weren't too worried? Cause they all knew the tax loops would protect them as well as the Tax Credits their businesses would recieve. For smoes like us who don't employ others, but do ok for ourselves... its up to us to figure out how we keep the money we have and be happy Bush or McCain isn't in office.
I'll be damned if I get my Healthcare taxed by some dude who has never felt what I have felt in life as far as being poor and having to climb to where I am. I'd rather a dude who finally looks like me and has been a self made man represent over the guy who's life expectancy won't last thru the actual Presidential Term.
Dude.. get over it and instead of complaining figure out how you get around those hurdles.
My Dad ALWAYS said. Don't complain if you can do something about it...and if you aint going to do anything about it why complain?
Originally Posted by itz rOLLi
you dont think things will get better in your lifetime? i feel sorry for you.Originally Posted by ittakesalittlebitmore
Originally Posted by MexicanSoul
In our history, we've witnessed a criminal lead our country for eight years who will leave office richer and clear of any crime. Bush took over the country and now Obama will do some spring cleaning and get this country back on track. Can I get an AMEN!Originally Posted by ittakesalittlebitmore
Originally Posted by DAYTONA 5000
The only change is the amount of melanin the president has.Originally Posted by MyTsharp
Originally Posted by CadillacFLOW
After seeing how everybody is soo excited last night and today, I now think it was good that Obama was elected. But.......
I'm just curious to what kind of change everyone thinks he's going to bring?
Its not about the "physical change". Its the mindstate, I'm only 25 years old but I have never seen people in cities dancing in the streets. Honking their horns and and cheering from their cars. People partied in DC last night. Its the feeling of excitement and relief that it brings. That's what 'change' is about. My-T.
To expand upon that, I believe what we have here is not so much that people have made the right choice...rather, it is the illusion of choice that has many dancing in the streets. Do you think even for one second that those in power, I mean those in real power, the ones not discussed as much as the visible figures in the dailies, would for one moment entrust the planets most powerful government & possibly the fate the mankind to someone who wouldnt follow or would dismantle all their aims in one swift stroke?
If you ask me, we're living in the times of the Matrix, where things simply arent as they appear....I simply dont trust it yet.
I sincerely hope you are right but in my heart of hearts I am convinced that you (and many with you) are totally wrong. Obama is such a likeable guy and I wish for him to do every he can to make the world a better place. But I know there are certain things we are not privy too, mechanations that we're not so aware of, people and groups that have an infite more sway over what happens than us voting (which is illusionary in itself).
They want you to feel happy, empowered, that you've 'done the right thing', that we're moving forward, progress if you will. But I would bet my life that in my lifetime things are NOT going to get better, things wont REALLY change, and that anyone who inherits the hotseat of the White House isnt really as much of the 'own person' as you guys seems to think....