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Exactly.Originally Posted by rickybadman
QFT. Finger pointing and excuses galore. If Obama does not bring progress then America will vote him out in 2012, simple. Obama's victory was something bigger that Dem v. Rep. or Liberal v. Conservative. American people let the government and the rest of the world know that things are going to be different form the last 8 years. On November 4th America got its Swagger Back.![]()
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Dr Spaceman:
23ska909red02:
I'd still like to know what values/beliefs Obama holds that will definitely continue to drive this country away from success and prosperity.
I keep asking that, but all i get is "just you watch".
From what I've seen, when people answer with with things like that ('Just you wait and see'), it's because they have no idea howto answer, but they are going to rely on the CERTAINTY that no one is perfect. So in this case, whenever Obama's fails to be perfect (and he will fail tobe perfect, since no one is perfect), THEN they will answer the question.
But right now?
Naaaah. They're waiting for the failure to be perfect, then they're going to be the first ones jumping up and down, proclaiming 'See! Toldy'all he was going to be the death of us all! What'd I tell you? I told you this was going to happen.'
And in reality, they didn't say anything except (like you said) 'Just wait and see.'
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Naw you're wrong.Originally Posted by Essential1
man this he wasn't conservative enough issue is nonsense if they picked a big conservative it would have been a 10 point lose. It was already a mandate you would make it a "Reagan like landslide" Go ahead pick a big conservative in 2012 it will be another loss. Right now the republican party is in shambles and the two biggest names I have heard for 2012 is Jeb Bush (that will be game over before the conventions) and Sarah Palin which would be a mistake because she is a big reason McCain lost..
This is not a center right country it is a center left country based on the past 2 election cycles. If you want to call it center fine we can say that.
But hardcore conservatism does not work with this country, a moderate is and always will be best chance for Republicans. Because as the years pile on 2012, 2016, 2020 this country will become more and more liberal/progressive.
If you want to think conservatism is what this country likes then go ahead and fool yourself into it. Drive that thought and your party off a cliff.
I keep asking that, but all i get is "just you watch".Originally Posted by 23ska909red02
Dr Spaceman:
23ska909red02:
I'd still like to know what values/beliefs Obama holds that will definitely continue to drive this country away from success and prosperity.
Originally Posted by rickybadman
And many others believe that he was the Anti Christ put on earth to torture the lower middle class and poor.Originally Posted by TBONE95860
He just happens to understand conservative principles and values and why he and many others believe it is the right way for the country.Originally Posted by Fede DPT
I am. Long Island City 41st ave 12th st AKA Queensbridge South Houses, originally.Originally Posted by Lazy B
Why would you idolize Reagan? You aren't from the inner city are you?Originally Posted by Fede DPT
Obama's "Tax Cut" is not really a a Tax Cut at all, he's sending out checks, like Bush did.
There hasnt been a real Tax Cut in the US since my political idol Reagan.
Oh and Fede DPT, what are your thoughts that Sarah Palin handed out $2,000 rebate checks to every resident (including children and babies) of Alaska due to the states oil revenues? Is this not socialism?
Difference is that it was a "one time" rebate.
Fede, you were serious with your idolization of regan, no?
obamas tax plan is very similarly structured.
....or so I've HEARD......
Why not idolize Reagen? The man created close to 20 million jobs, he inherited unemployment at like 8%, inflation was I think 12%. He cut thespending on domestic programs, and passed very important Economy Acts in '81 and '86. People will criticize him for keeping the lower classes down, butthere was so much money going into public entitlement programs and so many of them were being abused. He wasn't perfect, but was the best presidentwe've had in the past century.
Actually you are correct, but he's doing in REVERSE.
I'd still like to know what values/beliefs Obama holds that will definitely continue to drive this country away from success and prosperity.
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It'd just take too long to write, in that it's complex and would be multiple significant paragraphs. It's a complex issue. One of these days I might have more time to explain it, I got a test tomorrow though, I'm out for the night.
It's a lot easier to resort to calling him a terrorist sympathizer, socialist, and value-empty person though I guess.
Oh and Fede DPT, what are your thoughts that Sarah Palin handed out $2,000 rebate checks to every resident (including children and babies) of Alaska due to the states oil revenues? Is this not socialism?
Difference is that it was a "one time" rebate.
i was referring to the Alaska Permanent Fund which pays out an annual dividend to all citizens of Alaska. Is this not socialism? Is this not a redistributionof wealth?
Originally Posted by you big dummy
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Originally Posted by 718stylez
Oh and Fede DPT, what are your thoughts that Sarah Palin handed out $2,000 rebate checks to every resident (including children and babies) of Alaska due to the states oil revenues? Is this not socialism?
Did he accept the position?Originally Posted by haiti5
Rahm Emmanuel![]()
You have been banned for the following reason: troll
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Originally Posted by 718stylez
Oh and Fede DPT, what are your thoughts that Sarah Palin handed out $2,000 rebate checks to every resident (including children and babies) of Alaska due to the states oil revenues? Is this not socialism?
haiti5 wrote:
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Did he accept the position?![]()
nah not yet..i hope he does..dude knows how to run a show. if rahm rejects its like a slap in the face tho.![]()
[h1]Palin Didn't Know Africa Is A Continent, Says Fox News Reporter (VIDEO)[/h1]
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Now that the 2008 election is over, reporters are spilling all the juciest, and previously off the record, gossip from the campaign trail. Much of it is about the infighting between Palin and McCain's staff, as Newsweek's treasure trove of post-election gossip reveals. However, perhaps one of the most astounding and previously unknown tidbits about Sarah Palin has to do with her already dubious grasp of geography. According to Fox News Chief Political Correspondent Carl Cameron, there was great concern within the McCain campaign that Palin lacked "a degree of knowledgeability necessary to be a running mate, a vice president, a heartbeat away from the presidency," in part because she didn't know which countries were in NAFTA, and she "didn't understand that Africa was a continent, rather than a series, a country just in itself."
***UPDATE*** Fox News Chief Political Correspondent Carl Cameron appeared on The O'Reilly Factor tonight and described in much fuller detail the truly astonishing behavior, and lack of knowledge, of Sarah Palin on the campaign trail, as well as the nasty infighting that resulted from, some would say, Palin's "diva" behavior. (Earlier today, Palin said reports of her "diva" behavior and any tension within the campaign were "absolutely false.")
Cameron relates how McCain aides were terrified of Palin's lack of knowledge of international and national issues, and even basic civics. Cameron reports that Palin was unfamiliar with the concept of "American exceptionalism," and that not only did she not understand that Africa was a continent rather than a single country but also that during debate prep Palin was unable to name all the nations in North America.
Palin was apparently a nightmare for her campaign staff to deal with. She refused preparation help for her interview with Katie Couric and then blamed her staff, specifically Nicole Wallace, when the interview was rightly panned as a disaster. After the Couric interview, Palin turned nasty with her staff and began to accuse them of mishandling her. Palin would view press clippings of herself in the morning and throw "tantrums" over the negative coverage. There were times when she would be so nasty and angry that her staff was reduced to tears.
Watch the clip from The O'Reilly Factor below.
http://www.huffingtonpost...ow-africa-i_n_141653.html� <----- Go here for video, at the bottom on the Bill O'Reilly show...
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I keep asking that, but all i get is "just you watch".Originally Posted by 23ska909red02
Dr Spaceman:
23ska909red02:
I'd still like to know what values/beliefs Obama holds that will definitely continue to drive this country away from success and prosperity.