ELECTION DAY 2008:........... Barack Obama, the next President of the United States of America

Originally Posted by TheHealthInspector

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[h1]Obama to campaign for first time with Bill Clinton[/h1]
Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama will campaign for the first time alongside former President Bill Clinton at a rally next week in Orlando, Fla.

The two will appear together Wednesday in the perennial battleground state, Obama campaign spokeswoman Jen Psaki said.

Orlando sits in an important swing part of the state, where Clinton could help Obama among the white working-class voters who so strongly supported his wife.

Bill Clinton was cool toward Obama following the bruising nomination battle between Obama and Clinton's wife, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton. However, any lingering animosity was put aside when both Clintons gave rousing endorsements of Obama at the Democratic National Convention in August.

Since then, Bill Clinton has campaigned for Obama on his own, but the two have not appeared together at such an event.
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the republicans were probably hoping that this wouldnt happen even though most of us probably knew this was coming sooner or later, that picture of them together in new york is one thing but them campaigning together is a huge statement, in the same way that republicans have to end the ties of mccain to bush, im sure theyre trying to do whatever they can to prevent the public from tying obama to clinton, unfortunately for republicans too many people still admire clinton

I'll be there.
 
Palin's 'going rogue,' McCain aide says

Some quotes from the article. . . .

Several McCain advisers have suggested to CNN that they have become increasingly frustrated with what one aide described as Palin "going rogue."

"She is a diva. She takes no advice from anyone," said this McCain adviser. "She does not have any relationships of trust with any of us, her family or anyone else.

"Also, she is playing for her own future and sees herself as the next leader of the party. Remember: Divas trust only unto themselves, as they see themselves as the beginning and end of all wisdom."

"Her lack of fundamental understanding of some key issues was dramatic," said another McCain source with direct knowledge of the process to prepare Palin after she was picked. The source said it was probably the "hardest" to get her "up to speed than any candidate in history."
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you know whats funny about those video. all those red necks talkin about 9/11 yet they were no where near close the attacks. Why do the these people talk aboutit more then NYer which were more closely affect by it. i guess the fear mongering isnt as affective with the educated.

anyway fox is crazy they had a guy on yesterday on sean hannity he said why give tax cuts to the poor are they are gonna spend it on is drugs and booze thensomeone said are you sure about that he said yes im sure its welfare for so they can buy more drugs and booze. i watch fox just to hear all the crazy talk.

calling obama a socialist and saying progresive taxes are socialist. apprently republicains are mind readers and are saying that he is never gonna privatizebanks ever again if his in power. i guess calling people socialist is the new thing now. damn socialist.
 
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Palin's 'going rogue,' McCain aide says

Some quotes from the article. . . .

Several McCain advisers have suggested to CNN that they have become increasingly frustrated with what one aide described as Palin "going rogue."
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"She is a diva. She takes no advice from anyone," said this McCain adviser. "She does not have any relationships of trust with any of us, her family or anyone else.

"Also, she is playing for her own future and sees herself as the next leader of the party. Remember: Divas trust only unto themselves, as they see themselves as the beginning and end of all wisdom."

"Her lack of fundamental understanding of some key issues was dramatic," said another McCain source with direct knowledge of the process to prepare Palin after she was picked. The source said it was probably the "hardest" to get her "up to speed than any candidate in history."

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we are doomed if she becomes president when McCain dies
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Originally Posted by TheHealthInspector

u know, if john mccain is really serious about this - freezing spending in everything except defense, veterans care, social security, and medicare - i might actually have to support him cause i would love to see this
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He would never do that. Its a empty campagin promise. That would freezing the salaries of all government employees except the employees involved inDefense,Veterans Adminstration, Social Security and Medicare. How would you collect taxes? (IRS) How would you defend the borders? (Homeland Security)
 
Anybody voting for McCain please answer this question.

Why are you voting for a guy that can't even run his OWN campaign effectively. People can sh-- on Obama all they want but look who has ran the morestructured and effective campaign and like they say the way a candidate runs their campaign is the way they will run the presidency. One factor why iwouldn't see myself voting for McCain is just looking at how terrible a campaign he has run, no message, inconsistant, bad judgment on selecting his VP andnow infighting... the only thing that differs from Bush is that Bush is more consistant.
 
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Originally Posted by TheHealthInspector

u know, if john mccain is really serious about this - freezing spending in everything except defense, veterans care, social security, and medicare - i might actually have to support him cause i would love to see this
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He would never do that. Its a empty campagin promise. That would freezing the salaries of all government employees except the employees involved in Defense,Veterans Adminstration, Social Security and Medicare. How would you collect taxes? (IRS) How would you defend the borders? (Homeland Security)
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we're all familiar with campaign promises that dont come as promised but more often than not that has to do with new programs that are beingpromised, new programs are incredibly hard to enact because if you're familiar with the legislation process, its a million times easier to preventlegislation from happening then to actually enact that same legislation, like in 92 clinton promised a similar health care plan to obama but it never happenedcause of the effects that special interest groups had on the public and then the public's effect on congress

however, what im talking about is john mccain's promise to cut spending, this rests solely on HIM and not congress, in the most general sense he has thepower to cut spending with the stroke of a pen, he can say "we're not going to finance that anymore", some of the new programs he has proposedare ones that i dont expect to happen since theyll have to go through congress but a cut in spending is something that he can make happen simply by saying"we're not going to finance all that extra stuff because there wont be enough revenue with all the tax cuts," even though he is greatlyoutnumbered by dems in congress, im not sure they have 2/3 in both parts of congress and mccain can use his veto power

- in short, if mccain was elected, ill give him a pass on passing new programs but not on a failure to freeze spending in unimportant areas, thats going to beon him,
 
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[h1]Palin's 'going rogue,' McCain aide says[/h1]
  • Story Highlights
  • Sources say there is brewing tension between McCain aides and Palin
  • Palin aide says she is trying to take control of her message
  • "She is a diva. She takes no advice from anyone," says a McCain adviser
From Dana Bash, Peter Hamby and John King
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ALBUQUERQUE, New Mexico (CNN) -- With 10 days until Election Day, long-brewing tensions between GOP vice presidential candidate Gov. Sarah Palin and key aides to Sen. John McCain have become so intense, they are spilling out in public, sources say.

Several McCain advisers have suggested to CNN that they have become increasingly frustrated with what one aide described as Palin "going rogue."

A Palin associate, however, said the candidate is simply trying to "bust free" of what she believes was a damaging and mismanaged roll-out.

McCain sources say Palin has gone off-message several times, and they privately wonder whether the incidents were deliberate. They cited an instance in which she labeled robocalls -- recorded messages often used to attack a candidate's opponent -- "irritating" even as the campaign defended their use. Also, they pointed to her telling reporters she disagreed with the campaign's decision to pull out of Michigan.
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A second McCain source says she appears to be looking out for herself more than the McCain campaign.

"She is a diva. She takes no advice from anyone," said this McCain adviser. "She does not have any relationships of trust with any of us, her family or anyone else.

"Also, she is playing for her own future and sees herself as the next leader of the party. Remember: Divas trust only unto themselves, as they see themselves as the beginning and end of all wisdom."

A Palin associate defended her, saying that she is "not good at process questions" and that her comments on Michigan and the robocalls were answers to process questions.

But this Palin source acknowledged that Palin is trying to take more control of her message, pointing to last week's impromptu news conference on a Colorado tarmac.

Tracey Schmitt, Palin's press secretary, was urgently called over after Palin wandered over to the press and started talking. Schmitt tried several times to end the unscheduled session.

"We acknowledge that perhaps she should have been out there doing more," a different Palin adviser recently said, arguing that "it's not fair to judge her off one or two sound bites" from the network interviews.

The Politico reported Saturday on Palin's frustration, specifically with McCain advisers Nicolle Wallace and Steve Schmidt. They helped decide to limit Palin's initial press contact to high-profile interviews with Charlie Gibson of ABC and Katie Couric of CBS, which all McCain sources admit were highly damaging.

In response, Wallace e-mailed CNN the same quote she gave the Politico: "If people want to throw me under the bus, my personal belief is that the most honorable thing to do is to lie there."

But two sources, one Palin associate and one McCain adviser, defended the decision to keep her press interaction limited after she was picked, both saying flatly that she was not ready and that the missteps could have been a lot worse.

They insisted that she needed time to be briefed on national and international issues and on McCain's record.

"Her lack of fundamental understanding of some key issues was dramatic," said another McCain source with direct knowledge of the process to prepare Palin after she was picked. The source said it was probably the "hardest" to get her "up to speed than any candidate in history."

Schmitt came to the back of the plane Saturday to deliver a statement to traveling reporters: "Unnamed sources with their own agenda will say what they want, but from Gov. Palin down, we have one agenda, and that's to win on Election Day."

Yet another senior McCain adviser lamented the public recriminations.

"This is what happens with a campaign that's behind; it brings out the worst in people, finger-pointing and scapegoating," this senior adviser said.

This adviser also decried the double standard, noting that Democratic nominee Sen. Barack Obama's running mate, Sen. Joe Biden, has gone off the reservation as well, most recently by telling donors at a fundraiser that America's enemies will try to "test" Obama.

Tensions like those within the McCain-Palin campaign are not unusual; vice presidential candidates also have a history of butting heads with the top of the ticket.

John Edwards and his inner circle repeatedly questioned Sen. John Kerry's strategy in 2004, and Kerry loyalists repeatedly aired in public their view that Edwards would not play the traditional attack dog role with relish because he wanted to protect his future political interests.

Even in a winning campaign like Bill Clinton's, some of Al Gore's aides in 1992 and again in 1996 questioned how Gore was being scheduled for campaign events.

Jack Kemp's aides distrusted the Bob Dole camp and vice versa, and Dan Quayle loyalists had a list of gripes remarkably similar to those now being aired by Gov. Palin's aides.

With the presidential race in its final days and polls suggesting that McCain's chances of pulling out a win are growing slim, Palin may be looking after her own future.

"She's no longer playing for 2008; she's playing 2012," Democratic pollster Peter Hart said. "And the difficulty is, when she went on 'Saturday Night Live,' she became a reinforcement of her caricature. She never allowed herself to be vetted, and at the end of the day, voters turned against her both in terms of qualifications and personally."

CNN's Ed Hornick contributed to this report.
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[h1]Dems apoplectic, GOP apologetic over e-mail to Jewish voters[/h1] By Ron Todt |Of The Associated Press October 26, 2008
Democratic officials on Saturday blasted a since-disavowed Republican e-mail sent to Jewish voters in Pennsylvania alleging that presidential candidate Barack Obama taught members of a community group ''to commit voter registration fraud'' and likening a vote for him to ignoring ''the warning signs in the 1930s and 1940s.''

''This is a despicable e-mail. It's full of lies and half-truths,'' said U.S. Sen. Robert Casey, D-Pa. He and other Democratic officials called on Republican nominee John McCain to denounce the e-mail, which he called part of a ''smear campaign'' that was among the worst he had seen in Pennsylvania.

State GOP officials disavowed the e-mail and said the strategist who helped draft it had been fired.

''The Republican Party of Pennsylvania did not authorize that e-mail,'' Michael Barley, communications director for the state Republican Party, told The Associated Press on Saturday evening. Barley said a ''correction'' would be sent out to everyone who received it.



McCain-Palin spokesman Peter Feldman said Saturday night that McCain ''rejects politics that degrade our civics.''

Barley declined further comment, but referred the AP to his comments to The New York Times, in which he apologized and said political consultant Bryan Rudnick was responsible for the e-mail and had been fired.

Rudnick, reached Saturday night, confirmed that he no longer works for the party, which employed him a few weeks ago as a consultant to do outreach to Jewish voters.

''I had authorization from party officials'' to send the e-mail, Rudnick said, but he declined to say who had signed off on it. ''I'm not looking to drag anyone else through the mud, so I'm not naming names right now,'' he said.

The e-mail was sent Thursday to 75,000 Jewish voters, and Rudnick said he was fired the following morning. ''I was informed that it mostly had to do with discrepancies with strategy and logistics, and the e-mail was not mentioned,'' he said.

A copy of the e-mail provided by Democratic officials says it was ''Paid for by the Republican Federal Committee of PA - Victory 2008.'' It warns ''Fellow Jewish Voters'' of the danger of a second Holocaust due to the threats to Israel from its neighbors and touts McCain's qualifications over those of Obama.

The e-mail accuses of Obama, in his role as a community activist, of teaching members of the community group ACORN ''to commit voter registration fraud.''
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It's kind of sad how scared some white people are of a black person becoming president.
 
I wonder why OP has stop posting actual poll data now.

[h2]RealClearPolitics Poll Averages[/h2][h3]General Election: McCain vs. Obama[/h3]http://[table][tr][th=""]Poll[/th] [th=""]Date[/th] [th=""]Sample[/th] [th=""]MoE[/th] [th=""]Obama (D)[/th] [th=""]McCain (R)[/th] [th=""]Spread[/th] [/tr][tr][td]RCP Average[/td] [td]10/19 - 10/26[/td] [td]--[/td] [td]--[/td] [td]50.5[/td] [td]43.2[/td] [td]Obama +7.3[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Rasmussen Reports[/td] [td]10/24 - 10/26[/td] [td]3000 LV[/td] [td]2.0[/td] [td]51[/td] [td]46[/td] [td]Obama +5[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Gallup (Traditional)*[/td] [td]10/24 - 10/26[/td] [td]2448 LV[/td] [td]2.0[/td] [td]50[/td] [td]45[/td] [td]Obama +5[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Gallup (Expanded)*[/td] [td]10/24 - 10/26[/td] [td]2343 LV[/td] [td]2.0[/td] [td]53[/td] [td]43[/td] [td]Obama +10[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Reuters/C-SPAN/Zogby[/td] [td]10/24 - 10/26[/td] [td]1203 LV[/td] [td]2.9[/td] [td]50[/td] [td]45[/td] [td]Obama +5[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Diageo/Hotline[/td] [td]10/24 - 10/26[/td] [td]879 LV[/td] [td]3.6[/td] [td]50[/td] [td]42[/td] [td]Obama +8[/td] [/tr][tr][td]ABC News/Wash Post[/td] [td]10/23 - 10/26[/td] [td]1314 LV[/td] [td]2.5[/td] [td]52[/td] [td]45[/td] [td]Obama +7[/td] [/tr][tr][td]IBD/TIPP[/td] [td]10/22 - 10/26[/td] [td]886 LV[/td] [td]3.0[/td] [td]47[/td] [td]44[/td] [td]Obama +3[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Newsweek[/td] [td]10/22 - 10/23[/td] [td]882 LV[/td] [td]4.0[/td] [td]53[/td] [td]41[/td] [td]Obama +12[/td] [/tr][tr][td]GWU/Battleground[/td] [td]10/20 - 10/26[/td] [td]1000 LV[/td] [td]3.1[/td] [td]49[/td] [td]46[/td] [td]Obama +3[/td] [/tr][tr][td]CBS News/NY Times[/td] [td]10/19 - 10/22[/td] [td]771 LV[/td] [td]--[/td] [td]52[/td] [td]39[/td] [td]Obama +13[/td] [/tr][tr][td]FOX News[/td] [td]10/20 - 10/21[/td] [td]936 LV[/td] [td]3.0[/td] [td]49[/td] [td]40[/td] [td]Obama +9[/td] [/tr][/table]

Battleground states

[h2]Florida: McCain vs. Obama[/h2]
2008: FL-8, FL-16, FL-21, FL-24, FL-25 | 2006: Gov, FL-13, FL-16, FL-22 | 2004: President, Senate
http://[h3]Polling Data[/h3][table][tr][th=""]Poll[/th] [th=""]Date[/th] [th=""]Sample[/th] [th=""]MoE[/th] [th=""]Obama (D)[/th] [th=""]McCain (R)[/th] [th=""]Spread[/th] [/tr][tr][td]RCP Average[/td] [td]10/20 - 10/26[/td] [td]--[/td] [td]--[/td] [td]48.2[/td] [td]45.5[/td] [td]Obama +2.7[/td] [/tr][tr][td] FOX News/Rasmussen[/td] [td]10/26 - 10/26[/td] [td]1000 LV[/td] [td]3.0[/td] [td]51[/td] [td]47[/td] [td]Obama +4[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Suffolk[/td] [td]10/26 - 10/26[/td] [td]600 LV[/td] [td]--[/td] [td]49[/td] [td]44[/td] [td]Obama +5[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Reuters/Zogby[/td] [td]10/23 - 10/26[/td] [td]603 LV[/td] [td]4.1[/td] [td]47[/td] [td]47[/td] [td]Tie[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Politico/InAdv[/td] [td]10/22 - 10/22[/td] [td]562 LV[/td] [td]5.0[/td] [td]48[/td] [td]47[/td] [td]Obama +1[/td] [/tr][tr][td]St. Petersburg Times[/td] [td]10/20 - 10/22[/td] [td]800 RV[/td] [td]3.5[/td] [td]49[/td] [td]42[/td] [td]Obama +7[/td] [/tr][tr][td]NBC/Mason-Dixon[/td] [td]10/20 - 10/21[/td] [td]625 LV[/td] [td]4.0[/td] [td]45[/td] [td]46[/td] [td]McCain +1[/td] [/tr][/table]

[h2]Ohio: McCain vs. Obama[/h2]
2008: OH-1, OH-2, OH-15, OH-16 | 2006: Sen, Gov, OH-1, OH-2, OH-15, OH-18 | 2004: President
http://[h3]Polling Data[/h3][table][tr][th=""]Poll[/th] [th=""]Date[/th] [th=""]Sample[/th] [th=""]MoE[/th] [th=""]Obama (D)[/th] [th=""]McCain (R)[/th] [th=""]Spread[/th] [/tr][tr][td]RCP Average[/td] [td]10/18 - 10/26[/td] [td]--[/td] [td]--[/td] [td]50.5[/td] [td]44.2[/td] [td]Obama +6.3[/td] [/tr][tr][td]FOX News/Rasmussen[/td] [td]10/26 - 10/26[/td] [td]1000 LV[/td] [td]3.0[/td] [td]49[/td] [td]45[/td] [td]Obama +4[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Reuters/Zogby[/td] [td]10/23 - 10/26[/td] [td]600 LV[/td] [td]4.1[/td] [td]50[/td] [td]45[/td] [td]Obama +5[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Politico/InAdv[/td] [td]10/22 - 10/22[/td] [td]408 LV[/td] [td]5.0[/td] [td]52[/td] [td]42[/td] [td]Obama +10[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Ohio Newspaper Poll[/td] [td]10/18 - 10/22[/td] [td]886 LV[/td] [td]3.3[/td] [td]49[/td] [td]46[/td] [td]Obama +3[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Big10 Battleground[/td] [td]10/19 - 10/22[/td] [td]564 LV[/td] [td]4.2[/td] [td]53[/td] [td]41[/td] [td]Obama +12[/td] [/tr][tr][td]CNN/Time[/td] [td]10/19 - 10/21[/td] [td]737 LV[/td] [td]3.5[/td] [td]50[/td] [td]46[/td] [td]Obama +4[/td] [/tr][/table]
 
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