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the truck wasn't even the same color or model..
dumb *** cops..
dumb *** cops..
Ex LAPD officer going around killing other cops. WILD STORY
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whether you agree or disagree you can't blame that man for the people the COPS shot......cops should've used proper protocol but obviously they want this man dead and they don't give a **** who they take out to achieve it.....its truly amazing yall are not faulting the cops for those 2 women......going full blast like that was ignorant on their part.....
not to be nasty but I'm automatically assuming you're an idiot if you blame those shot women on that man
Seriously. Shot up 2 civilians who didn't even remotely resemble dude on their conquest for blood. Like why aren't people outraged about this?
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Any new info on this
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All the news is playing is the Nemo storm.
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not to be nasty but I'm automatically assuming you're an idiot if you blame those shot women on that man
Why wouldn't we blame the man? Even though he wasn't directly responsible but due his killing spree and threats, the cops out here are now super trigger happy and harassing everybody that matches his description.
not to be nasty but I'm automatically assuming you're an idiot if you DON'T blame those shot women on that man
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exactly. Here in lies the point in all this? How do you bring attention to corruption in a police force that has been so for not only years, but generations? You kill white folks apparently.
Not one person is condoning his actions (sane people anyway) dude Is off his rocker, and it shows in his incoherent manifesto, that goes from intelligent and witty to highly intense, and essentially babel within sentences. However, can we not admit that this man was driven to lunacy at least seemingly by the same system he grew up idolizing.
What struck me in his words was the call to mental illness - would not be surprised if he suffered from extreme bipolar disorder....and let's face it was he not right about how he obtained his silencer? Wtf part of the game is that?
As far asthe LAPD? **** them, and any other department that shares a similar culture, this at the very least serves as vindication for what we already knew to be true. For those that doubt his story? Why?
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not to be nasty but I'm automatically assuming you're an idiot if you blame those shot women on that man
The cops who shot those women are directly responsible for what happened. Dorner is indirectly responsible because if there was no manhunt, those officers wouldn't have been in that particular neighborhood watching over one of the targeted officers and thus the shooting would not have occurred.
Can you honestly believe that those two women would have been shot at regardless if there wasn't a manhunt for Dorner?
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whether you agree or disagree you can't blame that man for the people the COPS shot......cops should've used proper protocol but obviously they want this man dead and they don't give a **** who they take out to achieve it.....its truly amazing yall are not faulting the cops for those 2 women......going full blast like that was ignorant on their part.....
not to be nasty but I'm automatically assuming you're an idiot if you blame those shot women on that man
Why wouldn't we blame the man? Even though he wasn't directly responsible but due his killing spree and threats, the cops out here are now super trigger happy and harassing everybody that matches his description.
not to be nasty but I'm automatically assuming you're an idiot if you DON'T blame those shot women on that man
Giving the police that kind of justification to shoot at/attack who they please is not what's up
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So because of 1 man THEY hired going off the map, innocent civilians should be subject to Marshall law? **** with that ****. It's called doing their job, and not flanking people like its vice city out here. Police officers are not above the law, and those officers who let those shots rang out are scum.
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Cause we don't know any details other than what the media is telling us.
We don't even know that this man was the one that killed the couple or shot up the cops. For all we know it could be someone impersonating him and the dude is already dead or there could be more than one suspect. Hell do I want to believe a bunch of words written by someone until it has been corroborated. Anything and everything is possible at this point. All I know is that friends/family that I know in LE are strapped up and are in this killing mode as was evident yesterday. I am sorry but it's bad enough being in the city of LA filled with crooked cops, now these cops out here are all fired up and ready to shoot anyone that resembles this idiot and guess what.. we're all in the crossfire.
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CHRISTOPHER DORNER, Plaintiff and Appellant,
v.
LOS ANGELES POLICE DEPARTMENT et al., Defendants and Respondents.
B225674
COURT OF APPEAL OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA SECOND APPELLATE DISTRICT DIVISION FOUR
Filed: October 3, 2011
NOT TO BE PUBLISHED IN THE OFFICIAL REPORTS
California Rules of Court, rule 8.1115(a), prohibits courts and parties from citing or relying on opinions not certified for publication or ordered published, except as specified by rule 8.1115(b). This opinion has not been certified for publication or ordered published for purposes of rule 8.1115.(Los Angeles County Super. Ct. No. BS120439)
APPEAL from a judgment of the Superior Court of Los Angeles County, David P. Yaffe, Judge. Affirmed.Law Office of David J. Duchrow, Jill A. Piano and David J. Duchrow for Plaintiff and Appellant.
Carmen A. Trutanich, City Attorney, Claudia McGee Henry, Assistant City Attorney, and Gregory P. Orland, Deputy City Attorney, for Defendants and Respondents.
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Appellant Christopher Dorner, an officer with the Los Angeles Police Department (LAPD), made a complaint against his field training officer, Sergeant Teresa Evans, accusing her of kicking a suspect, Christopher Gettler (Gettler). The Los Angeles Police Department Board of Rights (Board) found that appellant's complaint was false and therefore terminated his employment for making false statements. Appellant filed a petition for a writ of administrative mandamus in the superior court pursuant to Code of Civil Procedure section 1094.5, seeking to overturn the decision of the Board. The superior court denied his petition, and he now appeals. We affirm.
FACTUAL AND PROCEDURAL BACKGROUND
Appellant was charged in a formal written complaint with three counts: count 1, on August 10, 2007, making false statements to Sergeant D. Deming, who was conducting an official investigation; count 2, on October 9, 2007, making false statements to Detectives S. Gallegos and T. Lai, who were conducting an official investigation; count 3, on August 10, 2007, making a personnel complaint that he knew or should have known was false. The Board held a series of hearings at which the following witnesses testified: appellant, Captain Donald Deming, Sergeant Evans, Sergeant Leonard Perez, Sergeant Eddie Hernandez of the Los Angeles Port Police, Sergeant Phil Jackson, Sergeant Julie McInnis, Detective Shelly Villanueva (formerly Gallegos), Christopher Adrid, Ashlye Perez, Christopher Gettler, and Richard Gettler.Page 3
Testimony of Captain Deming[sup][sup]1[/sup][/sup]
In August 2007, Captain Deming was a sergeant assigned as an assistant watch commander at the Harbor Division of the LAPD. On August 10, 2007, appellant spoke with Captain Deming about an incident on July 28, 2007, involving the use of force during Gettler's arrest at a DoubleTree Hotel in San Pedro.
Appellant told Captain Deming he had something bad to report, and he "expressed remorse that he failed to report what he believed to be misconduct (unnecessary kicks applied to an arrestee) that he witnessed approximately two weeks prior." Appellant said that he had handcuffed the suspect and was struggling with him when Sergeant Evans (Officer Evans, at the time) kicked the suspect twice in the left shoulder area and once in the face. Appellant had not told Sergeant Jackson about the kicks when Sergeant Jackson conducted a use of force investigation, and Sergeant Evans later discouraged appellant from disclosing she had kicked the suspect. Appellant was unsure what to write about the incident on the arrest report, so Sergeant Evans completed the report, "omitting any reference to the kicks." Appellant was visibly upset when he spoke with Captain Deming, and Captain Deming believed this was caused by fear of repercussions for reporting misconduct by a training officer. Because of his fear of repercussions, appellant told Captain Deming, "Promise me you won't do anything." Appellant testified that the reason he asked Captain Deming not to do anything was that he knew Sergeant Evans had a child to support and he did not want her to lose her job.
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I'm not blaming that man at all.....crimes happen everyday and all around us and that doesn't give cops the right to break proper procedure because I might fit the description of the person who committed the crime. Crime is crime no matter how you put it and plenty of my minority brothers and sisters have been subjected to this kind of abuse. Yea, we might not have been shot but we were treated in ways we were not supposed to be treated.
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you are one and an ignorant one at thatwhether you agree or disagree you can't blame that man for the people the COPS shot......cops should've used proper protocol but obviously they want this man dead and they don't give a **** who they take out to achieve it.....its truly amazing yall are not faulting the cops for those 2 women......going full blast like that was ignorant on their part.....
not to be nasty but I'm automatically assuming you're an idiot if you blame those shot women on that man
Why wouldn't we blame the man? Even though he wasn't directly responsible but due his killing spree and threats, the cops out here are now super trigger happy and harassing everybody that matches his description.
not to be nasty but I'm automatically assuming you're an idiot if you DON'T blame those shot women on that man
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I was at the Long Beach airport yesterday and there were cops EVERYWHERE. Bunch of cops/cars on the landing strip. Plane landed, two cops with shotguns escorted 2 people out of the plane and put them in an unmarked car and took off. Weren't being arrested or cuffed. Big ol police brigade, pretty sure is somehow related to all this
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Classic that someone posted Col. Jessup's speech in here
Ultimately, there are no winners in this situation except for the people that were wrongfully shot by the LAPD. They'll never work another day in their lives! I love the police chief's explanation, "obviously that was a case of mistaken identity." No **** Sherlock
Ultimately, there are no winners in this situation except for the people that were wrongfully shot by the LAPD. They'll never work another day in their lives! I love the police chief's explanation, "obviously that was a case of mistaken identity." No **** Sherlock
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Please explain why I am ignorant? Because I disagree with you and blame this "Chris Dorner" person for putting the general public in danger?
Those cops that shot up those trucks in my hometown of Torrance need to be prosecuted and fired because they lacked discipline.
When I have time, I am writing a letter to Torrance Mayor Frank Scotto's office to voice my displeasure and criticism. Why don't you do the same since you feel this strongly?
Frank Scotto, Mayor : E-mail
3031 Torrance Blvd., Torrance, Calif. 90503
Ph: (310) 618-2801
Fax: (310) 618-5841
http://www.torranceca.gov/CableTV/1555.htm
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probably because nobody is cosigning, condoning or making those idiot cops into vigilante heroes.
All of this is another ****** up story but seeing people side with one person who killed innocents over another is just retarted
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I feel bad for those who live in the area. Because of Dorner, more innocent lives will probably be lost by the time this concludes. He's gonna try to go out in a blaze of glory and his main "targets" won't even be involved. It will be some rookie cop back from Afghanistan who signed on to support his family. Probably not far from what Dorner once was. Watch. On the other end police are gonna be out in full force profiling, making traffic stops with no PC other than car make. I guarantee you that if the body count increases, it will consist of people who had nothing to do with the lawsuit he filed, which makes this whole rampage unnecessary and tragic.
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So basically martial law should be implemented at will for cops?
You serious right now?
I'm curious, what's your ethnicity?
This thinking is so backwards.
It sounds like you're justifying their actions.
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But you didn't my answer my question. Would those two women have been shot at regardless if there was or wasn't a manhunt for Dorner in that particular neighborhood?
If you say no than you have to agree with me if I say that if the city of LA sees an increase in racial profiling for large, bald African-American men, it is not because of Dorner's actions. Just as there was no correlation with the two women, who were delivering newspaper at night and undercover agents who of course would have a more difficult time to properly ID a vehicle but still committed a heinous act because they believed that the truck the women were in were the same as Dorner's which was approaching a house of the officers he had mentioned in his manifest.
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LAPD is proving him right after they shot up those cars with no remorse. They obviously didn't even get close to it before they shot up like they were in the russian mafia, because if they were close they would have seen 2women in it.
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Why does that matter?
Those cops thoroughly proved Dorner's point by not following protocol.
Their actions can't be justified in any way, shape, or form.
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if u support the lapd u support the same thing tho. its a lose lose situation and i rather go with dorner since he is trying to prove their injustice while the lapd kill for reasons like fear or trying to prove they have power.
ur point is invalid now dont make me show u ur logical fallacy
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Obviously those officers actions are not being justified. The argument that Marcus is stating is that Dorner, whether directly or indirectly, is not responsible for the two women who were shot. I'm arguing that he is indirectly responsible and you can read my argument in my previous post.
