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Originally Posted by eNPHAN
no, we didnt have the power to grant or deny him....Originally Posted by ArsnalJ23
that would be calling all of us pretty damn stupid.
kicksfiend wrote:
I know this is going to make it worst but here goes
Can anyone substantiate his claims about China and France?
There's been plenty of talks about 1 world currency.� Whether we're heading in that direction is dependent on what you want to take as fact.� You canlook into IMF more and get your own conclusion.� The Euro is backed my many countries as a unified currency.� Countries in the Middle East along with the IMFhave�agreed on a single currency by 2010.� The Amero isn't too far fetched either.
Originally Posted by eNPHAN
i cant tell if you're being sarcastic or not....Originally Posted by ArsnalJ23
Originally Posted by eNPHAN
no, we didnt have the power to grant or deny him....Originally Posted by ArsnalJ23
that would be calling all of us pretty damn stupid.
Just Congress then? good, because I wasn't really buying into the idea that ALL of us were naive.
but naw, why would i support granting more power to a man i didnt want to have ANY executive power in the first place?
Originally Posted by ArsnalJ23
Originally Posted by eNPHAN
i cant tell if you're being sarcastic or not....Originally Posted by ArsnalJ23
Originally Posted by eNPHAN
no, we didnt have the power to grant or deny him....Originally Posted by ArsnalJ23
that would be calling all of us pretty damn stupid.
Just Congress then? good, because I wasn't really buying into the idea that ALL of us were naive.
but naw, why would i support granting more power to a man i didnt want to have ANY executive power in the first place?
I'm being sarcastic.
I just find it funny that we say he gave himself these powers but thats not actually the case... Congress did.
(Disclaimer: I don't love or hate George Bush. Quite frankly, I believe he's as stupid as we think he is, but I cringe when people make claims without much, if any, evidence. I'm just dissecting the statement)
Continue.
And as was previously mentioned (PrurientSole said it), if there was social unrest anywhere they would implement Martial Law. It has nothing to do with Bush.
But what fact does that change? He should not have to audacity to ask for those powers he should know that he is infringing on the constitution.You can argue about who gave him what and whos fault it is all day and night but the fact is he has them.Originally Posted by ArsnalJ23
^^^ that was exactly my point. Read it again with a sarcastic undertone.
People to Congress to President.
You may not have given him that power directly, but the officials you elected did. He didn't just decide to give himself that executive power one day.
Originally Posted by obie21
im still not scared..
The original argument was that he abused his position and awarded himself that power... that's not the case. Congress wasn't held at gunpoint... given the circumstances, they gave it to him. So what point are YOU trying to get at now? he shouldn't have asked? and?!?Originally Posted by theone2401
But what fact does that change? He should not have to audacity to ask for those powers he should know that he is infringing on the constitution. You can argue about who gave him what and whos fault it is all day and night but the fact is he has them.Originally Posted by ArsnalJ23
^^^ that was exactly my point. Read it again with a sarcastic undertone.
People to Congress to President.
You may not have given him that power directly, but the officials you elected did. He didn't just decide to give himself that executive power one day.
Originally Posted by ArsnalJ23
The original argument was that he abused his position and awarded himself that power... that's not the case. Congress wasn't held at gun point... given the circumstances, they gave it to him. So what point are YOU trying to get at now? he shouldn't have asked? and?!?Originally Posted by theone2401
But what fact does that change? He should not have to audacity to ask for those powers he should know that he is infringing on the constitution. You can argue about who gave him what and whos fault it is all day and night but the fact is he has them.Originally Posted by ArsnalJ23
^^^ that was exactly my point. Read it again with a sarcastic undertone.
People to Congress to President.
You may not have given him that power directly, but the officials you elected did. He didn't just decide to give himself that executive power one day.![]()
So all 535 members of Congress are in George Bush's pocket? you're giving him a lot more credit than you should, but we'll go alongwith it. Lets say the majority of Congress is Republican (and what you meant to say was that they were part of his party, not administration... in a realisticworld even when this is the case, you're still not guaranteed that all of them will support him, but anyway...), lets assume he scammed his way to thispower... what has he done with it? Excuse himself from War Crimes... what else? I asked this question before and that was the only thing anyone came up with."he can do stuff that he should not be allowed to do" Are you condemning him for what he can do or what he has done?!?Originally Posted by theone2401
Originally Posted by ArsnalJ23
The original argument was that he abused his position and awarded himself that power... that's not the case. Congress wasn't held at gun point... given the circumstances, they gave it to him. So what point are YOU trying to get at now? he shouldn't have asked? and?!?Originally Posted by theone2401
But what fact does that change? He should not have to audacity to ask for those powers he should know that he is infringing on the constitution. You can argue about who gave him what and whos fault it is all day and night but the fact is he has them.Originally Posted by ArsnalJ23
^^^ that was exactly my point. Read it again with a sarcastic undertone.
People to Congress to President.
You may not have given him that power directly, but the officials you elected did. He didn't just decide to give himself that executive power one day.![]()
The point is its wrong regardless of who gave it to him and now he can do stuff that he should not be allowed to do. But no one cares apparentlyLets not even get into the fact that maybe the people in congress who voted for this to pass were republicans who are part of his administration? Because congress and the president are completely seperate entities right?![]()
This is all particulars that arent important Bush and future presidents now can undermine the system that was put in place by the founding fathers. There is suppose to be a balance of power and that is slowly being erroded. But lets argue about nothing just for $#%*% and giggles![]()
So all 535 members of Congress are in George Bush's pocket?
Not this guy....
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That's like saying The Great Depression was worse than what we're facing now, but as the days go by people are realizing that things aretrending to be far worse than The Great Depression. It's evident that things are getting worse and for people saying that it takes time for the bail outpackage to work are kidding themselves with false hope. I'm sure the masses would have never thought of the economic meltdown we're seeing today.Originally Posted by gko2408
EDIT: America lived through 1968. That was as bad as it can get in terms of riots and such.