GEORGETOWN BASKETBALL THREAD- Recap

My thoughts from today...

- I owe an apology to JWall, he's back to the player we all know. Clutch today, just clutch....incredible poise.

- Pat might have been the most valuable guy on the court.

- Dajuan's work on the boards was incredible, and much needed.

- Roy, getting touches, it's always a good thing.

- We finally saw a man defense, and we weren't as crisp as I thought we'd be...nice to see a few backdoors again though.

- Jeremiah played a nice game, hit a three...played great D as always.


Jt3 earned his money today, excellent job.


BUT...we have to take care of the ball, those turnovers were a joke.
 
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I suppose we were just unlucky with Esherick and saved all our lucky games for JT3

MARGIN W L W% Cum W Cum L Cum W%
1 3 1 0.750 3 1 0.750
2 6 0 1.000 9 1 0.900
3 8 2 0.800 17 3 0.850
4 2 2 0.500 19 5 0.792
5 3 2 0.600 22 7 0.759
6 1 3 0.250 23 10 0.697
7 4 8 0.333 27 18 0.600
8 3 1 0.750 30 19 0.612
9 2 3 0.400 32 22 0.593
10+ 65 12 0.844 97 34 0.740
TOTAL 97 34 0.740
OT 5 1 0.833




17-3 in games decided by 3pts or less...JT3 is earning his pay, and then some
 
[h2]In a class all by themselves[/h2]
By Barker Davis
March 6, 2008


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(Left to right) Tyler Crawford, Roy Hibbert, Jeff Green and Jonathan Wallace helped vault the Hoyas back among the Big East elite during their tenures at the university.


Georgetown is prepared to celebrate perhaps the most significant Senior Day in school history.
Minutes before Saturday's Big East title showdownbetween No. 11 Georgetown (24-4, 14-3 Big East) and No. 12 Louisville (24-6, 14-3), John Thompson III will take center court at Verizon Center to acknowledge agroup of seniors that has made a profound impact on the program.

When Jonathan Wallace, Roy Hibbert, Jeff Green and Tyler Crawford arrived on the Hilltop before the 2004-05 season as Thompson's first class of freshmencharges, Georgetown was a virtual hoops has-been. The Craig Esherick era had ended the previous season following a 13-15 campaign that was defined by a 4-12slog through the Big East, the school's worst showing in the conference.
"I remember it distinctly, coming in with those guys," said Green,now a rookie forward with the Seattle SuperSonics. "We didn't know what was going to happen because the program had been pretty down. We didn'tknow if we could turn it around, but we promised each other that if we didn't, it wouldn't be because we didn't work hard enough."

With that class as the backbone of the reconstruction effort, Georgetown has collected a conference-best 45 Big East victories over the last four seasons.And with a victory over Louisville on Saturday, that group of seniors, less Green and plus Indiana transfer Patrick Ewing Jr., would clinch consecutiveoutright Big East regular-season titles for the first time in school history.
"Forget basketball. This group, and I am including Jeff [Green], is justan incredible group of young men," Thompson said. "They are remarkable people. They came in to an uncertain situation and gave themselves completelyto the notion of team. I don't think I've ever had an entire group understand and commit themselves as selflessly from Day 1."

Rarely has a group mocked the sanctity of recruiting rankings like this class of Hoyas, only one of whom appeared among the Rivals 150 in 2003 (Ewing at No.97) or 2004. Such rankings can't quantify heart, commitment or hoops IQ - the hallmarks of this Hoyas class.
Green, from Northwestern High School,parlayed his versatility and skills into NBA lottery gold. He departed the Hilltop after a junior season in which he was Big East player of the year and pushedthe Hoyas to both conference crowns and their first Final Four appearance in more than 20 years.
Hibbert, a 7-foot-2 project from Adelphi, blossomed into an All-American candidate under the guidance of assistant coach Robert Burke. The Big East'spreseason player of the year enters the Louisville game ranked among the school's career leaders in points (16th), rebounds (ninth), blocks (fifth) andfield goal percentage (third).
Crawford emerged as the team's emotional soul, and Ewing was able to step out of his father's shadow and thrive as anenergetic role player.

Wallace, the walk-on point guard who became one of the most prolific shooters in the program's history, personifies the overachievement of thisclass.
"When I first met Jon, he was with the team security specialist [Greg Roberts], and I thought they were kin," Green remembered earlier thisweek. "I looked at this little guy and asked Greg if it was his nephew or cousin. And he said, 'Nope, he's the guy who's going to be throwingyou the ball.' At first I didn't think he was serious, but I learned pretty quickly never to doubt Jon."

The 6-1 guard from Harvest, Ala., planned to attend Princeton on an academic scholarship when Georgetown hired Thompson. He followed the coach to theHilltop, though Thompson told him he "would probably never play."
Well, on Saturday Wallace will make his 131st consecutive start, more than anyother current Division I player and third among all-time Hoyas behind Patrick Ewing (142) and David Wingate (137). Entering Saturday's game, the"Alabama Rainmaker" ranks first in the program's history in career 3-point field goals (225), 3-point field goal percentage (.428) and free throwpercentage (.824) and among the top 25 in scoring (25th) and assists (ninth).

After Wallace sank three free throws in the waning seconds to force overtime in Georgetown's 70-68 victory at Marquette last week, Tom Crean gushed overhim.
"I voted Jeff Green first on my all-conference ballot last year," Crean said. "I had Wallace next. As good as Roy Hibbert and [sophomoreforward] DaJuan Summers are, what Wallace has done is exceptional."

It may be difficult to pinpoint the defining achievement or characteristic for this senior class, a group that has improved both its regular-season andpostseason record each year while stockpiling individual honors and program firsts. But perhaps the ultimate testament to the elite play of this class is itsrecord in close games; in games decided by three points or fewer or in overtime, this group has compiled an 18-4 record.


"I don't really know what to say because it is an extraordinary number," Thompson said. "I think this group has always found ways to winbecause they believe in each other and they believe in what we do. I think that belief shows up in tight games. ... They are extremely special to me, andI'm going to miss them dearly. But they're part of the family now, so a part of them will always be here."



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I really hope Jeff is at the game saturday....this class has been the best I've ever seen, on and off the court...what they've accomplished isincredible. Every single one of them has made great contributions.
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Just like they planned it, right?

The Big East ends its regular season with an early peek at tournament-level play, as its #1 and #2 seeds meet for the regular season title Saturday at VerizonCenter. While it's a big game, both teams will play on next week, and could see other a week from now. Until then, this is the game that demands attention.

No Big East team has been on a roll as has Louisville. The Cardinals started conference play 0-1 with what was then a shocking loss to Cincinnati. Since then,U of L has won 15 of 17, nine straight, and 10 of 12 overall on th road. Their success is no secret--it's defense, particularly on outside shooting.

Georgetown's 4-22 three point effort wasn't an anomaly for Louisville--they're holding opponents to 30% from the outside this season. Not manyteams can say that, except, of course, Georgetown.

The rough and tumble Big East schedule has also allowed Georgetown to lock down opponents, especially late in games. Louisville earned the edge in the Feb. 9game by getting ahead and staying there, and both teams know the value of closing the door in this one.

Louisville is adept at employing a wide degree of options offensively. On Feb. 9, Georgetown had shut down the Cardinals inside, and UofL was able to gooutside to come back from eight down at the half (its largest deficit of the season) with the outside shot. Teams that focus on guard defense leave itself opento David Padgett going to work inside.

The teams are even across the board--underrated guard play, some up and down talent at forward, and workmanlike strength inside. And unless Rick Pitino returnswith the white suit, it's likely to be a grinding, 40 minute game with an absence of showtime and an abundance of man on man action. These are traits whichwill suit each team well in NCAA play, but poses specific challenges to each in a game such as this.

Guard Andre McGee took over for Edgar Sosa about three weeks ago, giving Louisville more consistent scoring and consistent strong defense. With just fiveturnovers in his last 11 games, McGee isn't making mistakes, which is good for a Louisville offense that is prone to turnovers (12.6 a game). McGee 'sstart has allowed Sosa to come off the bench with a pair of big games against Pitt and Notre Dame in relief.

Jerry Smith had one of his best games down the stretch against the Hoyas last month and may do it again. Smith is shooting 53% from the field in conferenceplay and 40% from three point range. If the Cardinals begin to struggle from the field, Smith can turn things around in a hurry.

Terrence Williams may be among the most underrated stars in the conference--he can do it all, but has yet to do so day in and day out. His 39 percent shootinghas cut into his averages, but he is an excellent passer (with an 2:1 assist to turnover ratio) and the team's leader in rebounds. Free throws have been aproblem (53%) but he averages only four attempts per game.

Like Williams, Earl Clark has a lot of assets to offer Louisville, even if thee point shooting (27%) isn't among them. Clark's minutes have decreasedof late but like any of the starting five, he can pop for 20 any given night.

Louisville's likely selection for next week's first team honors is center david padgett, who has overcome injuries to establish himself inside for theCardinals. His 68% shooting average gives Louisville steady offense inside--his 21 points against Pitt and 26 against Notre Dame were vital in those wins.Padgett has not fouled out of a game all season and that alone has been a stat that has allowed Louisville a lot of options late in games.

Here's a look at some potential matchup, and yes, while we'd like to see Tyler Crawford start, look for the same starting five for the Hoyas of late.

Jonathan Wallace vs. Andre McGee. Wallace's game has returned, and with it, the only consistent outside shooting georgetown has had in the second half ofthe season. MCGee replaced Edgar Sosa in the lineup and offers a slightly more up-tempo option than Sosa did. It's a good matchup for Wallace, if he candelver from outside.

Jessie Sapp vs. Jerry Smith. Two players going in opposite directions to end the season, Sapp's productivity has been in decline while opponents arepicking up the pace--Smith's threes in the feb. 9 game were the catalyst that sent Louisville into the Top 25 to stay. If Louisville is to prevail, Smithwill be at the forefront.

Patrick Ewing, Jr. vs. Terrence Williams. Ewing's defensive skills are better suited to Williams' style of play, and his 7 points and 7 rebounds Feb. 9was a measure of consistency in that game. Georgetown's defense must limit Williams' second chance points and force him into foul trouble.

DaJuan Summers vs.Earl Clark . Summers did not play well last month against Clark's defense, a key factor in that game. Look for Summers to use better shotselection and try to work the ball inside to his advantage.

Roy Hibbert vs. David Padgett. The marquee matchup of the game, both figure to get their points but both must be careful not to get caught up in first halffouls. Look for both to be more aggressive on rebounds, where each collected only four apiece in the Feb. 9 game.

GU bench vs. Louisville bench. Advantage Louisville. While the cardinals have been getting the majority of scoring from its starters, Derrick Caracter (8.6)and Juan Palacios (6.0) could start on most Big East teams. Bench offense remains a late question mark for the Hoyas and no player outside Ewing has shownconsistent impact offensively.

Keys to the game:
1. Points per possession. Louisville has given up 50% shooting only once all season, in an early and unexpected loss to Seton Hall. Its ability to lock downopponents early helped paved the way for its current streak and it's a test for Georgetown to focus on high percentage shots and limited turnovers to getthe lead that it needs.
2. Free throws. Averaging 20 attempts per game, Louisville is most effective when it keeps the opponent off the line, as it did when GU got only four attemptsall evening on Feb. 9. Getting its players to the line is a sign UofL is penetrating Georgetown's interior defenses and putting key Georgetown players infoul trouble.
3. Points In The Paint. A concern from last month's game, Georgetown did its part inside defensively but could not give Hibbert help. Look for Summers torediscover the interior game in this one.

For Louisville to win, it follows the keys that have guided it for the last nine games: limiting down opponent guard play, forcing bad shots, and utilizing itsstrength inside to take a lead and carry it home. Georgetown's strengths rely in bringing all five starters into the game, something it has not doneconsistently of late. If everyone is on the same page Saturday, the Hoyas will be especially tough.

Putting aside the senior accolades, the game is vital for seeding in the upcoming tournament, with NCAA implications as well. The Hoyas appeared to havelearned the lessons from the Freedom Hall loss, and are ready to make their move. A neutral site game would be a toss-up, but the home court may be thedifference in this one.
 
I'm going to the game today....it's going to be bittersweet to see these guys in their last home game.....

Four Cornerstones
Hoyas' Seniors Have Rebuilt a Program, Built Lasting Friendships

By Camille Powell
Washington Post Staff Writer
Saturday, March 8, 2008; Page E01

For Georgetown's four seniors, the enormity of the moment likely will not register until sometime today, when they're pulling on their jerseys inside the locker room or when they're walking off Verizon Center's court for the last time. Today's game against 12th-ranked Louisville will be the final home game for Roy Hibbert, Jonathan Wallace, Patrick Ewing Jr. and Tyler Crawford, teammates and best friends. "I'm not the type of guy to get tears or anything, but I'm going to be sad to see my last home game," Hibbert said. "Hopefully, I'll be playing at Verizon sometime next year [in the NBA]. I have a great bunch of guys that I love, and we're going to go out there and have fun."

It's fitting that the 11th-ranked Hoyas will be honoring their seniors on a day in which the Big East regular season championship is at stake. This class (which included Jeff Green, now with the Seattle SuperSonics), whose arrival coincided with that of Coach John Thompson III, helped reinvigorate a program that had declined.

Over the past four seasons, the seniors have led the Hoyas to a 96-34 overall record, 45-20 in the Big East. Hibbert, Wallace and Green all will finish their careers among Georgetown's top 25 scorers. Today's game will be the sixth home sellout crowd of their careers (the Hoyas sold out one game between 2000 and 2004).

"Who your teammates are shape your life," Thompson said. "I've been extremely fortunate and proud to have coached them individually and as a group. They all are good men. That's something. To get a group like that is special."

Thompson's predecessor, Craig Esherick, was the one who recruited Hibbert, Wallace, Crawford, Green and Cornelio Guibunda (who eventually transferred to American). Ewing transferred in from Indiana in fall 2005.

"You just don't hear of too many teams that have a group of seniors who are that close, because not that many people stick around," Wallace said. "I think our camaraderie off the floor helps us with our transition onto the floor. We have like a sixth sense of where each other is going to be, and what they're going to do."

'That's a Great Group of Guys'

Crawford and Wallace hit it off immediately when they met as freshmen, as did Crawford and Ewing, when Ewing came to visit the campus before transferring. "We threw alley-oops all day for two days straight" during open gym, Ewing said.

But Hibbert, to be honest, didn't particularly like the brash Ewing when they first met as high school players. Ewing, Hibbert recalled, "was just obnoxious, screaming at everybody. I just wanted to smack this kid."

Now they're good friends, even though they still disagree over whether Ewing actually dunked over Hibbert in an AAU tournament. They sit next to each other on charter flights -- in the exit row, naturally -- and talk about whatever is on their minds.

"The seniors have that bond," said guard Jessie Sapp, the team's lone scholarship junior. "Some people wish to have bonds like that, because no matter what, they have each other's back. No matter what, they're going to stick together. You need that in this world, in life. That's a great group of guys, if you ask me."

Each one brings something a little different.

"Roy has a little bit of everything," Crawford said. "He has the knowledge, he's slowly gaining the muscle, and when he wants, Roy expresses energy and enthusiasm."

The on-court growth of the seniors -- Hibbert and Wallace, in particular -- has been well documented, but just as important has been the way the seniors have helped each other grow up. Hibbert admires Crawford, who has not received as much playing time as the other three, for his resilience, and the way he pushes through situations.

"Those times when I was a freshman and, as Coach would say, bumbling around the court, trying to get better, Tyler always worked to push me," Hibbert said. "So I was like, 'All right, I've got to keep working no matter what.' "

Wallace, by his own account, was really serious and rather shy when he came to Georgetown from tiny Harvest, Ala. Crawford, Green and Hibbert helped draw him out and sharpen his sense of humor.

"I didn't hang out with a lot of people, so I would say that I didn't have many friends," Wallace said. "When I got here, the idea of having true friends, I kind of developed that."

He also got better gadgets. Wallace was shocked the first time he met Ewing, who was carrying a cellphone, an iPod and a PSP. As a freshman, Wallace had "the most simple version of a cellphone," which Crawford described as "two cups and a string" and Ewing called "a Zack Morris phone." He now has a Sidekick.

"I always sit back and think about how thankful I am to have come in with this group of guys," Wallace said. "I think that all of us feed off of each other, and with all these guys, we push each other to be better. That's something that really can be valued, because a lot of times you can be content once you get to this level."

Sharing Life, on and off the Court

The four seniors, along with manager Greg Feeney, share a townhouse near campus. There, they play a lot of video games. Wallace is unanimously hailed as the worst player. "He's everybody's test dummy," according to Crawford. Hibbert is the best at non-sports video games, while Ewing claims to be tops at sports games.

They do not cook for one another. That probably is a good thing, considering that Wallace describes the sweet tea that Crawford once made as "gasoline," and Hibbert tells a story that involves Crawford attempting to defrost a pound of hamburger meat on the shower floor.

They gather in Wallace's room for informal review sessions when they return home from road games. Hibbert, Ewing and Crawford pick Wallace's brain, because he's the one who is in constant communication with Thompson during the game. They use Wallace's room because, well, "he doesn't like to have his room messed up," Hibbert said. "So we go into his room and sit on his bed, or just mess around with him."

Sighed Wallace, "They try to push my buttons sometimes."

These are the kind of things that the seniors say they really will miss after graduation: the private moments that they shared, as opposed to the public ones that live on in television replays or YouTube clips. Things like making fun of Wallace for his aversion to scary movies ("Jon likes cute, cuddly movies, like 'Bambi,' " Crawford said), or Crawford for his shoes (Ewing described Crawford's brown Wallabees as "nasty"). Teasing Ewing about his age ("He's 26 or 27. Maybe 28," Wallace said), or Hibbert about the girls he dates.

Those interactions are what Green misses most. Last season's Big East player of the year showed up at McDonough Arena on Thursday afternoon -- the Sonics had a day off in Philadelphia -- to visit his friends before practice. It was his only chance to see the seniors before the postseason begins; his professional obligations will prevent him from attending today's game, even though he wants to.

"We used to make each other laugh so much, and leaving that and going where a bunch of adults are, it's a tough transition," Green said. "I talk or text each and every one of [the seniors] every day about nothing. The relationship there is very strong. If you call somebody every day just to ask what are you doing, and it's the same thing every day? You call just to make sure that they're all right and to hear their voice? I do miss them.

"But I'm not going to tell them that."


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Great article

It is bittersweeet. On and off the court, the best collective group of seniors, maybe ever...at least in my time as a fan.

Only right for them to leave with a W.
 
chris wright is suited up today...interesting....downyboy is at the game, just texted me that....wonder if he'll see time
 
man niether of us look like we want this game....we could have put up a 10 point lead easy by now. but no of course we play down to the opponent. lets hopelouisville doesnt get it going
 
Rivers you are absolutely worthless...ive never seen anyone make so many bunk decisions when it comes to passing the ball...
 
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^ He is a good perimeter defender
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what negates anything he does on defense with his turnovers on offense...maybe absolutely worthless was harsh, but he's worthless
 
man turnovers are killing us this half....stupid stupid decisions

lets get it together

p.s. yes im doing my best allen impression
 
Congrats to the Big East Champions, the Georgetown Hoyas. They played good and won a tough game against my Cardinals...

Austin Freeman was lights out today.
 
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Thank you seniors.

Who's soft? Overrated? Not the best in the Big East?

Who's Big East Champs?
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Louisville is very, very good right now. Congrats on a fine season to them
 
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Thank you seniors.

Who's soft? Overrated? Not the best in the Big East?

Who's Big East Champs?
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Louisville is very, very good right now. Congrats on a fine season to them

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Great regular season for the Hoyas, now onto the very tough Big East Tournament....
 
And I understand the criticism of Rivers (i happen to like what he brings, certainly on D)..

but Jessie and Jon can't play the whole game.

Rivers usually does ok for his 15-25 minutes...and we can live with, I think.

It was interesting to see Wright in warm ups then back in his suit for the game...MAYBE he gets broken in on Thursday??
 
From watching the game today, Jon Wallace looks like a pure and confident PG. They said he's going into Law but I could see an NBA team taking a chance onhim (whether it's in the draft or just a pick-up sometime during the season.)

I haven't watched this team that much this year so I could be way off on Wallace though.
 
would love to see wright back in action if he's ready

and yeah i know rivers is a good defender an all...but in the offensive end, he consistently turns it over. and its because his passes are too casual orhe's telecasting where he wants to go with it. its not even like he's turning it over trying to make something happen. he messes up simple passes timeand time again. and at times it seems like no one trusts him enough to pass him the ball when we're running our offense. its like playing with 4 guys onoffense. but yeah, defensively, he does a good job and its true that he needs to spell sapp and jwall...but hopefully wright can get back soon.
 
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