Goodbye, 2010 COLLEGE FOOTBALL SEASON - twas a great year,

Originally Posted by 5am6oody72

Originally Posted by Juicy J 32

UNC starting HB Johnny White is out for the season with a broken clavicle.
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Sucks, he was stepping up too. I heard you guys might take off Houston's shirt now, any truth to that?

If so that's bad news for us. Houston ran all over us last year and we never do well with big running backs, especially now that our front 7 is so undersized.
I think Butch said something on his radio show basically stating that if it was the 9th or 10th game of the season he would not burn Houston's redshirt. We need him badly next year so I hope he doesn't get it burned.

Best  case scenario is that we do RBBC with a healthier Draughn and Elzy.
 
Originally Posted by 5am6oody72

Originally Posted by Juicy J 32

UNC starting HB Johnny White is out for the season with a broken clavicle.
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Sucks, he was stepping up too. I heard you guys might take off Houston's shirt now, any truth to that?

If so that's bad news for us. Houston ran all over us last year and we never do well with big running backs, especially now that our front 7 is so undersized.
I think Butch said something on his radio show basically stating that if it was the 9th or 10th game of the season he would not burn Houston's redshirt. We need him badly next year so I hope he doesn't get it burned.

Best  case scenario is that we do RBBC with a healthier Draughn and Elzy.
 
Auburn carrying the SEC banner, they have georgia and us left. Since we're out it'd be cool to keep the national championship and Heisman in alabama
 
Auburn carrying the SEC banner, they have georgia and us left. Since we're out it'd be cool to keep the national championship and Heisman in alabama
 
Originally Posted by bamaboy256

Auburn carrying the SEC banner, they have georgia and us left. Since we're out it'd be cool to keep the national championship and Heisman in alabama

Are you serious bro? That's not even being a real fan of your team
This is why conference pride is such a joke. You would rather lose to your biggest rival just so you can keep spouting off about how great y'all think the sec is
 
Originally Posted by bamaboy256

Auburn carrying the SEC banner, they have georgia and us left. Since we're out it'd be cool to keep the national championship and Heisman in alabama

Are you serious bro? That's not even being a real fan of your team
This is why conference pride is such a joke. You would rather lose to your biggest rival just so you can keep spouting off about how great y'all think the sec is
 
Fact of the day: Oregon has only faced two teams with a winning record all year.. What a joke the BCS is. Ill never be a diehard fan because of that fact alone.

TCU has faced 6 above .500 teams. Auburn is right around 8 teams.
 
Fact of the day: Oregon has only faced two teams with a winning record all year.. What a joke the BCS is. Ill never be a diehard fan because of that fact alone.

TCU has faced 6 above .500 teams. Auburn is right around 8 teams.
 
So? It's not like we're barely winning or anything. We've got the highest scoring offense in the nation.

Anyways, we're facing the 3 hardest games of the year coming up, so now it's time to see if the team deserves that #1 spot.
 
So? It's not like we're barely winning or anything. We've got the highest scoring offense in the nation.

Anyways, we're facing the 3 hardest games of the year coming up, so now it's time to see if the team deserves that #1 spot.
 
Originally Posted by Noskey

So? It's not like we're barely winning or anything. We've got the highest scoring offense in the nation.

Anyways, we're facing the 3 hardest games of the year coming up, so now it's time to see if the team deserves that #1 spot.
Co-sign, if they can win the rest they obviously deserve their chance.

Oregon's beaten some pretty damn good teams. And beat them pretty nicely....Stanford is very good this year.

Next week's Cal game is a big trap game for them,even Herbie alluded to it during the Stanford-AZ game. If they aren't prepared, Cal is definitely capable of winning despite how bad they've looked at times (all on the road). Cal plays very well at home, they have a running back that can keep the ball out of Oregon's offense, and a defense that forces turnovers at home. Oregon fumbled the ball a few times against UW, if they do that on the road they could find themselves in a bad situation. And they've dominated Oregon at home in past years.
Brock Mansion is very mediocre as a QB, and worse than Kevin Riley
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, but he has something to prove to Cal fans and there's no better way for him to do something than against the #1 team.
 
Originally Posted by Noskey

So? It's not like we're barely winning or anything. We've got the highest scoring offense in the nation.

Anyways, we're facing the 3 hardest games of the year coming up, so now it's time to see if the team deserves that #1 spot.
Co-sign, if they can win the rest they obviously deserve their chance.

Oregon's beaten some pretty damn good teams. And beat them pretty nicely....Stanford is very good this year.

Next week's Cal game is a big trap game for them,even Herbie alluded to it during the Stanford-AZ game. If they aren't prepared, Cal is definitely capable of winning despite how bad they've looked at times (all on the road). Cal plays very well at home, they have a running back that can keep the ball out of Oregon's offense, and a defense that forces turnovers at home. Oregon fumbled the ball a few times against UW, if they do that on the road they could find themselves in a bad situation. And they've dominated Oregon at home in past years.
Brock Mansion is very mediocre as a QB, and worse than Kevin Riley
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, but he has something to prove to Cal fans and there's no better way for him to do something than against the #1 team.
 
Originally Posted by WallyHopp

Fact of the day: Oregon has only faced two teams with a winning record all year.. What a joke the BCS is. Ill never be a diehard fan because of that fact alone.

TCU has faced 6 above .500 teams. Auburn is right around 8 teams.

DATEOPPONENTRESULT/TIMERECORD/TICKETS
Sat, Sept 41-0 (0-0)
Sat, Sept 112-0 (0-0)
Sat, Sept 183-0 (0-0)
Fri, Sept 244-0 (0-0)
Sat, Oct 25-0 (1-0)
Sat, Oct 96-0 (2-0)
Sat, Oct 167-0 (3-0)
Sat, Oct 238-0 (4-0)
Sat, Oct 309-0 (5-0)
Sat, Nov 610-0 (6-0)
Sat, Nov 134:00 PM ETVersusTickets
Sat, Nov 274:00 PM ETVersusTickets
Oregon St (4-4)

Tennessee Tech (4-5)

SMU (5-5)

Colorado State (3-7)

Wyoming (2-
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BYU (4-5)

UNLV (1-
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That's 7 teams right there out of 10 that are .500 or below, not sure where you're getting your info. 

Utah (who had played nobody), Oregon St, Air Force and Baylor (who just got humbled by Okie St) are quality wins, but that schedule isn't exactly murderer's row. None of the .500 or below teams I listed above besides Ore. St even come close to presenting a challenge.

TCU finishes off with San Diego St and New Mexico, while Oregon will play Cal (5-4), Arizona (7-2), and aforementioned Oregon St. So that's 2, possibly 3 more teams with .500 or better records that they'll face.

Oregon will have played New Mexico, Portland State, and Washington State as complete cupcakes. The rest of the teams on their schedule, even if they don't have winning records, are teams that are actually capable of pulling an upset and have quality wins. Not that the transitive property applies but Washington, one of the worse teams on Oregon's schedule, actually beat Oregon St, a team that was supposed to be on TCU's list of quality wins. Those teams aren't great but they have losing records because they've played tougher in conference games than the teams TCU is playing. I'd much rather have to play SMU (even though they're 5-5) than a 3-6 Tennesee that almost beat LSU, or 4-5 ASU that almost beat Wisconsin, or 4-5 UCLA that also beat Oregon State.

You can't just look at quality of teams based on having a winning record. You have to look at who those wins came against as well. San Diego State is 7-2 right now, but I'd rather play them than ASU.
 
Originally Posted by WallyHopp

Fact of the day: Oregon has only faced two teams with a winning record all year.. What a joke the BCS is. Ill never be a diehard fan because of that fact alone.

TCU has faced 6 above .500 teams. Auburn is right around 8 teams.

DATEOPPONENTRESULT/TIMERECORD/TICKETS
Sat, Sept 41-0 (0-0)
Sat, Sept 112-0 (0-0)
Sat, Sept 183-0 (0-0)
Fri, Sept 244-0 (0-0)
Sat, Oct 25-0 (1-0)
Sat, Oct 96-0 (2-0)
Sat, Oct 167-0 (3-0)
Sat, Oct 238-0 (4-0)
Sat, Oct 309-0 (5-0)
Sat, Nov 610-0 (6-0)
Sat, Nov 134:00 PM ETVersusTickets
Sat, Nov 274:00 PM ETVersusTickets
Oregon St (4-4)

Tennessee Tech (4-5)

SMU (5-5)

Colorado State (3-7)

Wyoming (2-
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BYU (4-5)

UNLV (1-
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That's 7 teams right there out of 10 that are .500 or below, not sure where you're getting your info. 

Utah (who had played nobody), Oregon St, Air Force and Baylor (who just got humbled by Okie St) are quality wins, but that schedule isn't exactly murderer's row. None of the .500 or below teams I listed above besides Ore. St even come close to presenting a challenge.

TCU finishes off with San Diego St and New Mexico, while Oregon will play Cal (5-4), Arizona (7-2), and aforementioned Oregon St. So that's 2, possibly 3 more teams with .500 or better records that they'll face.

Oregon will have played New Mexico, Portland State, and Washington State as complete cupcakes. The rest of the teams on their schedule, even if they don't have winning records, are teams that are actually capable of pulling an upset and have quality wins. Not that the transitive property applies but Washington, one of the worse teams on Oregon's schedule, actually beat Oregon St, a team that was supposed to be on TCU's list of quality wins. Those teams aren't great but they have losing records because they've played tougher in conference games than the teams TCU is playing. I'd much rather have to play SMU (even though they're 5-5) than a 3-6 Tennesee that almost beat LSU, or 4-5 ASU that almost beat Wisconsin, or 4-5 UCLA that also beat Oregon State.

You can't just look at quality of teams based on having a winning record. You have to look at who those wins came against as well. San Diego State is 7-2 right now, but I'd rather play them than ASU.
 
Good post ^^^^

With no homerism, how can you argue with Oregon/Auburn as the top two right now? I can make a case for all four unbeaten teams to be in the NCG, so it's not like I'm trying to exclude the non-AQ schools. Yes, but BCS sucks, but that's the reality for now. Thankfully my team is the beneficiary at the moment.

In my opinion, non-AQ schools better hope they don't get in the national championship or else the BCS is gonna say, "The system works, and everybody has a chance, even the non-BCS schools". That playoff we all want so bad will be pushed back for a million years because TCU or Boise just proved that even the "little guy" can play for it all, making the need for a playoff "less" in the eyes of the powers that be.

If you want a playoff, you need ammo to fight with in your argument. Having TCU or Boise play for it all does not help your cause. It sucks to say, but you better hope to get screwed, because that's the only way you're gonna see change in the system. If you "beat" the system, you're only beating yourself.

That's just me of course...
 
Good post ^^^^

With no homerism, how can you argue with Oregon/Auburn as the top two right now? I can make a case for all four unbeaten teams to be in the NCG, so it's not like I'm trying to exclude the non-AQ schools. Yes, but BCS sucks, but that's the reality for now. Thankfully my team is the beneficiary at the moment.

In my opinion, non-AQ schools better hope they don't get in the national championship or else the BCS is gonna say, "The system works, and everybody has a chance, even the non-BCS schools". That playoff we all want so bad will be pushed back for a million years because TCU or Boise just proved that even the "little guy" can play for it all, making the need for a playoff "less" in the eyes of the powers that be.

If you want a playoff, you need ammo to fight with in your argument. Having TCU or Boise play for it all does not help your cause. It sucks to say, but you better hope to get screwed, because that's the only way you're gonna see change in the system. If you "beat" the system, you're only beating yourself.

That's just me of course...
 
Your right, I was off by one. TCU will have faced 6 (if all goes accordingly) and OREGON is facing three more now, with the possibility of 5 games on the year against winning teams. It's definitely not a perfect analogy It's just interesting to think about. A washington team thats under 500 will have played the likes of Nebraska, BYU, Syracuse. They lose to BYU, who TCU doesnt seem to get credit for, lose to Nebraska and ASU, and lose Arizona, Stanford, and Oregon, yet in many eyes are still capable of upsets at 3-6. I dont get it

But you tend to just nonchalantly throw no bones to SDSU who really should be 9-0. Robbed by the refs against Mizzou, and At BYU (replay officials were BYU alum and MWC has since changed the procedures on all of that stuff..), that's a game TCU won't truly get credit for winning. yet all these 3-6 or 4-5 teams have this wow factor on people.
 
Your right, I was off by one. TCU will have faced 6 (if all goes accordingly) and OREGON is facing three more now, with the possibility of 5 games on the year against winning teams. It's definitely not a perfect analogy It's just interesting to think about. A washington team thats under 500 will have played the likes of Nebraska, BYU, Syracuse. They lose to BYU, who TCU doesnt seem to get credit for, lose to Nebraska and ASU, and lose Arizona, Stanford, and Oregon, yet in many eyes are still capable of upsets at 3-6. I dont get it

But you tend to just nonchalantly throw no bones to SDSU who really should be 9-0. Robbed by the refs against Mizzou, and At BYU (replay officials were BYU alum and MWC has since changed the procedures on all of that stuff..), that's a game TCU won't truly get credit for winning. yet all these 3-6 or 4-5 teams have this wow factor on people.
 
If you are going to try to debate who's better between Oregon and TCU, please do not use strength of schedule.  
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Utah is a very good team, very good.  However, let's not fool ourselves and think they were a top 10 team.  They deservedly got exposed by TCU.  I've said it many times, Utah should enjoy this run, because there is no way they are going to do what they are doing now in the Pac 12.  Frankly, people were talking about Utah as if they were an elite team, they are a good team, not an elite team.

They are trading this:

Pitt
UNLV
@ New Mexico
San Jose State
@ Iowa State
@ Wyoming
Colorado State
@ Air Force
TCU
@ Notre Dame
@ SDSU
BYU

For

Montana State
@ USC
@ BYU
Washington
ASU
@ Pitt
@ Cal
Oregon State
@ Arizona
UCLA
@ Washington State
Colorado

Good luck,
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Cal plays very well at home, they have a running back that can keep the ball out of Oregon's offense
After watching them up close and personal, this is a major non factor.  Oregon's offense does not depend on ball control.  In fact they want you to run more plays on offense that you are accustomed to in order for your offense to tire as well.

You need a solid defense that frankly we did not have, but I do believe we provided a blue print for beating Oregon.  The key to beating Oregon is to force Thomas to throw, keep him in the pocket and hopefully have enough talent and discipline in your defensive secondary so they stay with their receivers.  Otherwise Maehl and the TE (brain fart on his name) will kill you over the middle or find space in zone coverage.  Gap control is important for the defensive line, and of course the LB's can't bite on everything and leave the middle wide open.

The measure of a great team is that you have to play a perfect game to beat them, Oregon is that team right now.  I still say that Matt Barkley fumble before the second half was the beginning of the end.  It was our first mistake, and it led to a 14 point swing.

When you have a talented/disciplined D, Oregon is beatable.  (ex. Ohio State)

Unless Oregon or Auburn loses, TCU shouldn't jump either.  Sorry, they are a solid team, but they don't face teams week in and week out.  Stop crying, joing an AQ conference.  #%%@ it, join the Big East, they need decent teams in that league.
 
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