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Got a college degree and a job, but still feel cheated?
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Its like believing in god, Frowned upon if you dont go.
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100k might be comfortable in minnesota or kansas or some *+*$, but when your living in los angeles with a high cost of living, 100k will get you a normal life. nothing baller. im not saying 100k is peanuts or that its not enough because enough really is just food water and shelter. thats enough and you can get that for like a few g's a year. i was just saying that because some of you make 100k sound like living it up rapper status. hell no! plus you forget the $3.50 a gallon gas we get here. if your making 100k here chances are your gas bill is probably up there. theres a lot of lil expenses you guys dont/cant account for. The more money you make, the more you spend. whether you try to or not. there a few who realize what im talking about, and those who never will realize what im talking about.
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i feel you my dude....
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oh and 100k is really only like 60k in your bank account after you account taxes.
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gotta love america
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as of right now you over-exaggerating a little and it really depends on your situation...
aizensousuke
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ur 9 - 5 is not life
ur supposed to go out of your way and begin making smart investments that can be rewarding
ur supposed to go out of your way and begin making smart investments that can be rewarding
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Step your tax deductible/write off game up.
balloonoboy
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Throwed, I do feel that I slaved. Mind you, I got a double major in psyc and phil. I worked hard, but I do feel I could have worked harder. Those philosphy courses are no joke. I do feel my early years shot me in the foot. Just not knowing what to do the first few semesters. But like I said, I'm not really so much pissed about not getting into grad school as I am not being able to find a better job. Hell, I'll even take a pay cut, if there is room for advancement. As long as it isn't security.
My ego just feels hella bruised doing that knowing that I have a bachelor's degree. Times are tough, so what? I don't feel that I should be in the position I'm in. It's just not cool.
Meh...life is like a box of chocolates, you never know which one you're going to get.
My ego just feels hella bruised doing that knowing that I have a bachelor's degree. Times are tough, so what? I don't feel that I should be in the position I'm in. It's just not cool.
Meh...life is like a box of chocolates, you never know which one you're going to get.
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It's funny to be on the other side of the coin in this discussion.
I guess I'm one of the "lucky" kids who graduated college and had a job locked up going into my senior year that will be paying me close to 100k this year, and over the 100k mark for the next two.
Let me tell you, 100k means NOTHING. Here are a few reasons why:
1. I don't even own a car. Even if I did own a car, I wouldn't have anywhere to drive it from Mon-Sat because I work roughly 12-15 hrs a day. So i guess I could "stunt" on my way too and from work, but I'd rather take the bus for free with my expired student ID from college.
2. I am paying off 60k in student loans that I currently have. My family didn't qualify for financial aid because both of my parents make a decent amount of money, but I did not want to stick them with a 120k+ college tuition bill. I consider this the LEAST I could do for them after all the sacrifices they made to help me throughout my life, so that is where a good amount of my paycheck goes every two weeks. Not exactly "ballin".
3. You want to make > 100k? Get ready to bust your +$*. When i say "work 12-15 hrs a day" I'm not talking about just physically being at work. I'm talking about actually using your mind to find solutions to tough problems, taking responsibility for your work, being stressed out over deadlines constantly, being ON CALL at any hour of the night to be able to complete an assignment. You know why companies give you a blackberry/iphone when you start? It's not so you can browse NT on the job or hit up your buddies to party on a Thursday night. It's so you have no excuse for EVER missing a work related call/email. I've had more than a few times when I've been out to dinner with friends/my girlfriend on a Friday/Sat night where my manager has called me and said "Get your +$* to the office right now and don't plan on going anywhere for the next 24 hours". Do you want to live like that?
Sure, making 90, 100, 110k is nice right out of college, but there are MANY sacrafices you have to make (i.e. not have a life whatsoever) when you are at that level. The reasoning? Well there would be someone else who would KILL to be in your shoes, so shut up, stop complaining, and work your +$* off.
I am not happy when I receive my paychecks. I'm not happy when I'm at work (which is a lot of my waking hours). I've come to find happiness in good discussions with old friends, books, my girlfriend, working out, and throwing back a few beers every now and then because these are simple things that I have SOME control over that I can actually enjoy. The rest of my life is pretty much out of my hands at this point. And you know whats funny? You don't have to be making 100k to enjoy ANY of those activities I just listed.
Just wanted to give you guys something to think about from the other side of the coin in this discussion..
I guess I'm one of the "lucky" kids who graduated college and had a job locked up going into my senior year that will be paying me close to 100k this year, and over the 100k mark for the next two.
Let me tell you, 100k means NOTHING. Here are a few reasons why:
1. I don't even own a car. Even if I did own a car, I wouldn't have anywhere to drive it from Mon-Sat because I work roughly 12-15 hrs a day. So i guess I could "stunt" on my way too and from work, but I'd rather take the bus for free with my expired student ID from college.
2. I am paying off 60k in student loans that I currently have. My family didn't qualify for financial aid because both of my parents make a decent amount of money, but I did not want to stick them with a 120k+ college tuition bill. I consider this the LEAST I could do for them after all the sacrifices they made to help me throughout my life, so that is where a good amount of my paycheck goes every two weeks. Not exactly "ballin".
3. You want to make > 100k? Get ready to bust your +$*. When i say "work 12-15 hrs a day" I'm not talking about just physically being at work. I'm talking about actually using your mind to find solutions to tough problems, taking responsibility for your work, being stressed out over deadlines constantly, being ON CALL at any hour of the night to be able to complete an assignment. You know why companies give you a blackberry/iphone when you start? It's not so you can browse NT on the job or hit up your buddies to party on a Thursday night. It's so you have no excuse for EVER missing a work related call/email. I've had more than a few times when I've been out to dinner with friends/my girlfriend on a Friday/Sat night where my manager has called me and said "Get your +$* to the office right now and don't plan on going anywhere for the next 24 hours". Do you want to live like that?
Sure, making 90, 100, 110k is nice right out of college, but there are MANY sacrafices you have to make (i.e. not have a life whatsoever) when you are at that level. The reasoning? Well there would be someone else who would KILL to be in your shoes, so shut up, stop complaining, and work your +$* off.
I am not happy when I receive my paychecks. I'm not happy when I'm at work (which is a lot of my waking hours). I've come to find happiness in good discussions with old friends, books, my girlfriend, working out, and throwing back a few beers every now and then because these are simple things that I have SOME control over that I can actually enjoy. The rest of my life is pretty much out of my hands at this point. And you know whats funny? You don't have to be making 100k to enjoy ANY of those activities I just listed.
Just wanted to give you guys something to think about from the other side of the coin in this discussion..
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As far as college is concerned, its just part of the system of our social conditioning. You are taught from a very young age that college is something
successful, intelligent, independent
is decreasing and people are forced to get a masters and so on, just to secure a particular job that they might or might not even like. They are most likely graduating with debt in their late 20's/early30's and are starting their "real" life as debtors to the financial system. A system that obviously favors the rich. Me personally, I rather do what i like to do for less money, then work my @*$ off and waste away my life, while trying to step up my "career game" up.
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swizzc wrote:
It's funny to be on the other side of the coin in this discussion.
I guess I'm one of the "lucky" kids who graduated college and had a job locked up going into my senior year that will be paying me close to 100k this year, and over the 100k mark for the next two.
Let me tell you, 100k means NOTHING. Here are a few reasons why:
1. I don't even own a car. Even if I did own a car, I wouldn't have anywhere to drive it from Mon-Sat because I work roughly 12-15 hrs a day. So i guess I could "stunt" on my way too and from work, but I'd rather take the bus for free with my expired student ID from college.
2. I am paying off 60k in student loans that I currently have. My family didn't qualify for financial aid because both of my parents make a decent amount of money, but I did not want to stick them with a 120k+ college tuition bill. I consider this the LEAST I could do for them after all the sacrifices they made to help me throughout my life, so that is where a good amount of my paycheck goes every two weeks. Not exactly "ballin".
3. You want to make > 100k? Get ready to bust your +$*. When i say "work 12-15 hrs a day" I'm not talking about just physically being at work. I'm talking about actually using your mind to find solutions to tough problems, taking responsibility for your work, being stressed out over deadlines constantly, being ON CALL at any hour of the night to be able to complete an assignment. You know why companies give you a blackberry/iphone when you start? It's not so you can browse NT on the job or hit up your buddies to party on a Thursday night. It's so you have no excuse for EVER missing a work related call/email. I've had more than a few times when I've been out to dinner with friends/my girlfriend on a Friday/Sat night where my manager has called me and said "Get your +$* to the office right now and don't plan on going anywhere for the next 24 hours". Do you want to live like that?
Sure, making 90, 100, 110k is nice right out of college, but there are MANY sacrafices you have to make (i.e. not have a life whatsoever) when you are at that level. The reasoning? Well there would be someone else who would KILL to be in your shoes, so shut up, stop complaining, and work your +$* off.
I am not happy when I receive my paychecks. I'm not happy when I'm at work (which is a lot of my waking hours). I've come to find happiness in good discussions with old friends, books, my girlfriend, working out, and throwing back a few beers every now and then because these are simple things that I have SOME control over that I can actually enjoy. The rest of my life is pretty much out of my hands at this point. And you know whats funny? You don't have to be making 100k to enjoy ANY of those activities I just listed.
Just wanted to give you guys something to think about from the other side of the coin in this discussion..
you really posted all that without actually contextualizing your experience?
you purposely danced around what you do...and how you got there...just curious why you did that
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you really posted all that without actually contextualizing your experience?
you purposely danced around what you do...and how you got there...just curious why you did that
ibanking analyst in debt capital markets.. in my first year now.
got there by working very hard in school, doing well in my interviews, and doing well in my internship to obtain a full time offer.
What i do doesnt matter... In ANY industry when you get over a certain pay level, it is going to be how I described. Just wanted to give my opinion (especially when you are young) that the amount of money you make does not equal happiness. It's the way i see it... but again, that is just my opinion.
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you really posted all that without actually contextualizing your experience?
you purposely danced around what you do...and how you got there...just curious why you did that
I don't know why you felt the need to cancel out everything he wrote because I think he made a great point.
Dudes is in the salary cap most people desire and he's informing us that, it aint all it's cracked out to be. And this is the truth and reality of the situation. Aint to many people out there making an "honest" and well deserved 100K/100K+ just sitting about with no responsibilities. You work you *** off (unnecessarily imo) to make that kind of bank, in a manner that takes away from the true pleasure of life, which for [color= rgb(255, 0, 0)]swizzc[/color] is:
good discussions with old friends, books, my girlfriend, working out,and throwing back a few beers every now and then...
And like he said, you don't need to make 100K/100K+ to enjoy these pleasures.
Personally, I refuse to sacrifice my youth and being for money. There are more important things out there than money. I personally don't require 100K and above to live decently.
I feel bad for OP not because of his present situation, but because of the mindset he has concerning his present situation, what he believes is the "right" situation (as if there is even such a thing), and what ultimately amounts to the meaning of life for him...
If you went to college simply because of the promise of a job at the end of the day--you FAILED big time. Furthermore, took a close look at yourself in the mirror because while you may not be aware of it, the potential fact of the matter is that you're the "sheep" that will be worked and then eventually sacrificed to a cold, faceless, uncaring system of capitalism that holds this country hostage.
College is not a trade school. It's a place--a tool to use to inform and "educate" yourself like nothing did before. That said, go to college to "educate" yourself, not to learn some trick thousands of other students are learning. Tricks whose sole purpose and function is to supply that cold, faceless, and uncaring system with an endless supply of pre-programmed slaves.
Which brings me to my last point. Forget what you were told in your history classes concerning the cessation of slavery in America. It's a lie. Ok maybe physical slavery based on ones skin color was abolished ~200+ years ago, but don't be credulous enough to think that that was the end all be all of that institution. You can figure out the rest for yourself; your ability to do so, and how much of it, will ultimately determine just how much freedom you will have and enjoy in life...
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I learned this the hard way but a lot of people mistake what they want with what they are owed.
balloonoboy
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I wonder how people who major in music, theater, dance, and fine arts feel?
They're entering these low-income majors knowing that they'll have to really show and prove to make it; to avoid living from paycheck to paycheck, constantly trying to find work. And even then there are thousands out there just as good as they are. However, there's a love for their "craft" that somehow outweighs the shortcomings of their paycheck. The love won't last that long before they're forced to find a 9-5.
Anyone major in any of the above? Where are you right now in your life?
They're entering these low-income majors knowing that they'll have to really show and prove to make it; to avoid living from paycheck to paycheck, constantly trying to find work. And even then there are thousands out there just as good as they are. However, there's a love for their "craft" that somehow outweighs the shortcomings of their paycheck. The love won't last that long before they're forced to find a 9-5.
Anyone major in any of the above? Where are you right now in your life?
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yea man im with you bruh, i'm makin good money but its no where near what i'm suppose to be getting paid, i would go play the field but the company i'm working for is the only one hirin right now. I domake up for it at times by puttin in some crazy overtime hours, but they say their gonna bump my pay grade to where i cant make overtime anymore, so i'm hopin its in the area of what im lookin for.
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I just wanted to point out that what you described is a lot of jobs not just high paying ones. I can say this for a fact because my job demands a lot of the same things from me and I don't make half as much as you do. The fact of the matter is that jobs now a days are demanding more for less and less pay because they know that if you won't do it someone else will. What's worse is that at least your job requires you to think and isn't so much physically demanding as opposed to my job which is all labor and little thinking. Therefore, I would much rather be making a 100k being mentally stressed out than making what I make and being physically exhausted and having nothing to show for it.
And for those of you saying you wouldn't want to sacrifice all that for 100k and you can enjoy the things you like making less...well you are obviously only looking at it from a material point of view. Sure you can afford nice things with that 100k, but what I'm working hard for is much more important to me than what I can physically buy with that money. For me 100k means I can live in a better neighborhood in my county, which means I will be able to send my son to a better high shool that will give him more opportunities. 100k means my son will get to take advantage of more things that I didn't get to when I was young. Things like recreational sports outside of school, better vacations, etc.Sure my son doesn't need extravagant things to be happy, because I know I didn't. But its the fact that he will have the opportunity to have those things and won't just have some burning desire for them.
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A B.A. in psych is worth nada.
balloonoboy
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I'm beginning to learn that.
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I'm definitely not happy.
I was set up with numerous problems from my job from the get-go, and this is making me wonder if my degree was even worth it.
I was set up with numerous problems from my job from the get-go, and this is making me wonder if my degree was even worth it.
