Hand of God... Vol. NYC Subway Shenanigans *Update on OG post*

According to the comments on the news article, he's still in jail and can't make bail.
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Gotta love the system. 
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But man I've been looking at this everyday since it came out I can't stop watching this *** get ***** slapped. 
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Legal experts of NT...why did 8 ball get charged w/ assault when he was clearly attacked? I hope the charges get dropped.

Anytime you retaliate in a physical manner it's assault champ, simple as that. As far as the charges go, the main girl was charged with felony assault and 8-ball jacket with misdemeanor assault. As the law goes, 8-ball has to be charged even though his charge might get dropped.

Even if you kill somebody depending on the circumstance, it's still homicide. The homicide could either be justified, or by means of self-defense.....but homicide nonetheless.

1. Are you a legal expert, champ? (and yes...I know I just set myself up for one of your Jay-Z references..."I ain't pass the bar....")

2. (to the large print) - are you sure?

3. So you're saying that you will ALWAYS be charged with assault when defending yourself, no matter what the situation?
It's up to the discretion of the ADA on the case for #3. Chances are 8ball will just pay a fine but if this chick tries to fight this and take it to court, his charges will be dropped for sure.
 
 
You buggin.
With some wheat 6"

my son had one when he was 1.

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That's cute yall both have matching ugly *** jackets
Chill son. 8-balls are classic. I wanted one when I was a youngin.

But my moms told me only drug dealers and their children wear 8-balls
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Come to think of it that was her reason for denying me a lot of things I wanted as a kid
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Chill son. 8-balls are classic. I wanted one when I was a youngin.

But my moms told me only drug dealers and their children wear 8-balls
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Come to think of it that was her reason for denying me a lot of things I wanted as a kid
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i'll father u and get u one son
 
A little history on the 8-Ball
“I’m a gorilla, I beast everything in the eye/Rock an Eight-Ball jacket in the middle of July“ Ghostface

When fibre-optic cable fitter Raoul Cooper agreed to meet police in a vacant parking lot in Mableton, Georgia on the evening of the 9th of July this year regarding issues of child neglect he got a surprise – in addition to members of the local force, a SWAT team and NYC police officers promptly surrounded and arrested him on suspicion of first-degree murder dating back eighteen years. The reason for the homicide? To obtain an Eight-Ball jacket. Now that trend’s been and gone, frequently lampooned for good measure just to put it to rest, Raoul must be more than a little salty that he threw it all away and took a life for a flash-in-the-pan piece of gaudy cowhide. I frequently suffer bouts of jacket envy; though I’d like to point out I’ve never been quite so enamoured with any outerwear that I’d take up arms, but for me, the Eight-Ball was one of my first true jacket lusts.

“In the past two months, at least 16 youths have been shot for their shearling coats or for equally popular jackets with a multicolored leather eight ball on the back. Six are dead, and several others have been gravely injured.” Michael Specter, The Washington Post, January 27th, 1991

Moises Gallego, 18 was shot in the face in 1991 during a robbery in the Bronx for his, the crime Raoul’s been accused of. Quan Horton was killed in 1991 for his, and Rashid Smith was murdered for his in 1990. What the heck was the appeal of the eight-ball jacket? It might have held appeal twinned with some Ewings, but now it looks ugly as hell. Jokes aside, in preliminary high-speed e-research for this blog post, I was startled at the sheer amount of robberies and homicides of young men with regards to outerwear.

That reports (possibly apocryphal) claim Chicago police had a crime category entitled ‘Starter Jacket Murders’ circa 1989/90 isn’t too much of a surprise – I clocked the names of at least fatalities in news archives, several more for the shearling jacket craze that seemed to run from Winter 1990 to late 1991 in New York, and a handful more for the Eight-Balls (considered passé among some as early as January 1991). It’s hugely disturbing that a life could be taken for something as trivial as a fashion item, but doubly disturbing that these young men’s lives amounted to little more than two cautionary paragraphs, or mentions in various early ’90s shock articles on fashion and gun violence and then…nothing. If they’d been white and middle-class, they would’ve had their own Crime Library entry by now.

The Eight-Ball era seems to run between mid-1990 and early 1992, when the craze exited inner cities and went to hicksville (“Gee! That there jacket done got a pool ball on the back!“), but managed to act as the totem for murderous mugging over a costly clothing piece. Schooly D reinforced this on the intro to 1991’s ‘Your Worst Nightmare’ from ‘How A Black Man Feels.’

And here’s the kicker – kids were rocking bootlegs anyway. The real thing came courtesy of leather impressario Michael Hoban and his North Beach Leather brand. Accounts of the time have kids citing prices between $150 and $300 for their take on Hoban’s Eight-Ball which retailed at around $800. The suede version my local market was shifting to older kids in my UK hometown was undoubtedly a knockoff too. Periodically I see onetime ‘faces’ in the area who’ve hit hard times since ’93, forced into a purgatory of wearing the eight-ball year-after-year out of necessity, but carrying the lucky but battered number eight with a certain pride, perhaps a souvenir of their tenure as top boy in the town.

Ironically Hoban’s claimed his origins were with a Roxbury-based teen street gang he ran called the Warriors, and his nickname was ‘Hobo’, which crops up in the label of many of his leather designs (I think the Eight-Ball was part of another collection of colourful sports-inspired pieces, ‘WHEREMI’) and in the ’60s, based in San Francisco he, and business partner Frank Morgan were creating far-out leathers.

A small store moved to the North Beach District and became ‘North Beach Leather.’ Clients even included Huey Newton and Eldridge Cleaver as well as Sammy Davis Jr. and Elton John. Even Elvis swung through to get a leather cape. Hoban was instrumental in developing some tanning and treatments for leather that were previously implemented on apparel, and through the coked-out ’70s and excess of the ’80s, North Beach Leather got big. Very, very big.

In addition to some fitted feminine pieces, patriotic and sporty jackets in Technicolor, with pictures of basketballs, baseballs and pool balls captured the worst excess of the early ’90s too. With a substantial rollout of stores (eleven by 2000), Hoban suffered at the hands of the bootleggers taking advantage of grey areas of copyright, creating imitations of pieces like the Eight-Ball and American Flags designs. Hoban issued a few lawsuits, but in an odd twist, found he got on with the honcho of one copycat company so much after threatening him with a 1990 injunction, he allowed Excelled Sheepskin and Leather Coat Corp. to use old designs and help him with new ones.

It’s here that the eight-ball flooded the market. Why did it catch on over the baseball and basketballs? A cocaine reference? An Olde English malt liquor reference? Maybe it was just one of those moments when the must-have has no rhyme or reason, the right man rocked it, and necessity was conferred.

Hoban started a new company to capitalise on kids rocking the coats, ‘MH Sport’ in 1993, but the coats were much cheaper, because they were made of polyurethane. Not a good look. After closing several stores to focus on design in 1997, the transmission of the ‘Seinfeld’ episode ‘The Reverse Peephole’ on January 15th 1998, where the show’s punchline is David Puddy’s Eight-Ball jacket can’t have helped. Writer Spike Feresten put it in there as the embodiment of what he hated in New York at one point – his second most detested jacket after the dreaded man-fur.

9/11 was blamed for a further dent in the company profits and Michael lost the business in 2003 with it now owned by onetime general manager of the San Francisco store, Skip Pass. Michael apparently went to Hawaii. By 2004, one store remained, fittingly in SF, on Grant Avenue. Chances of an Eight-Ball resurrection, even after Ciara and her dancers made a satin knockoff look, umm…interesting in 2005, seem remote. I know that’s not an Eight-Ball in the second one, but she just edges Rhi-Rhi in the hotness for once wearing those studded Louboutin boots so I put there regardless. I assumed maybe the indiscriminate vogue for any 1992 paraphernalia might give it a second chance with hipsters too. Turns out I don’t give mankind enough credit.

Still, Michael Hoban – I salute you for creating a very ’90s icon. And apparently, North Beach Leather is on the comeback trail. Maybe WHEREMI range reissues will follow…

And about the man who created it
Michael Hoban and North Beach Leather International

Michael Hoban was one of the first designers in the 1960s to introduce counterculture leather jackets and clothing to Hollywood's celebrities.

He was born in the rough Roxbury section of Boston where, in the 1950s, he was the leader of the Warriors, a teenage street gang. His mother nicknamed him "Hobo" because he liked to wear ripped jeans. She would discard his worn clothing, only to find him wearing it the next day. He was later to use the street gang clothing of that time as inspiration for many of his designs. For example, some of his leather jackets and many of his first sportswear clothing line include the name Hobo somewhere in the design or label.

A high-school drop out at 17, he joined the Marine Corps, which he said "was a great thing" because it motivated him to continue his education. After completing his tour of duty, he attended art school. He took courses at Long Beach State College in California, taking math classes with a goal set on aeronautical engineering. He left Long Beach in the mid-1960s when his best friend encouraged him to settle in San Francisco.

Hoban began working with leather in the early 1960s, because he wanted "far-out clothes" and hadn't been able to find leather bell bottoms anywhere. Putting his mathematical skills to work, he made a blueprint for the pants, sent away to Mexico for the leather, and found a dressmaker to make the trousers. The bell-bottom trousers and other custom-only leather garments that Hoban was producing prompted Frank Morgan, now his business partner, to persuade Hoban to open a shop. Soon he was creating entire leather outfits, which he sold along with other manufactured garments at this boutique in Los Angeles.

In 1967, the small shop was moved into the heart of San Francisco's North Beach district, from which they took the name--North Beach Leather. Soon, they opened another in Berkeley, CA. As the center of the counterculture, Berkeley in the 1960s provided the perfect atmosphere for Hoban's design.

As his custom business began to expand, so did his list of clients. He made clothes for Black Panthers Huey Newton and Eldridge Cleaver and for many members of the Hell's Angels. Elvis Presley came into the shop and spent $38,000 on an order of leather capes, pants, and jackets. Many other celebrities shopped at North Beach Leather, including Elton John, who bought a rainbow fringe jacket, and Sammy Davis, Jr., who purchased a red, white, and blue Captain America outfit. Hoban soon designed custom leather ensembles for popular recordings artists such as the Rolling Stones, Diana Ross, Paul McCartney, and Tina Turner.

Michael Hoban's jackets are bright, bold, and beautifully crafted, often displaying some graphic image on the back sleeves and fronts. These jackets are expensive, mostly manufactured in the United States and Hong Kong, and are made up in intricate patterns and detailed designs that incorporate such techniques as patchwork, insertions, and appliqué. His favorite jacket is the American Flag jacket, which sold out during Desert Storm. Hoban's goal is to make the American leather industry comparable to the European leather industry. By working with American tanners, he has encouraged the industry to improve tanning methods in order to produce lighter, better quality hides in a broad range of color. He continues to search for ecologically sound ways of refining the raw material and to make leather a mainstream fabric within the garment industry.


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Just kinda skimmed the article.

How is dude rocking the HBA Shkirt?

HBA was started in like 06 I believe . . . Assuming this pic is old (and not just some dudes taking a retro styled pic), HOW SWAY?
 
 
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Just kinda skimmed the article.​
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How is dude rocking the HBA Shkirt?​
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HBA was started in like 06 I believe . . . Assuming this pic is old (and not just some dudes taking a retro styled pic), HOW SWAY?​
Hba was really hood.. started in bedstuy around early 00? 
 

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Just kinda skimmed the article.​
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How is dude rocking the HBA Shkirt?​
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HBA was started in like 06 I believe . . . Assuming this pic is old (and not just some dudes taking a retro styled pic), HOW SWAY?​
Hba was really hood.. started in bedstuy around early 00? 
 

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Damn never knew.

So the current owner purchased it or something? Because I know the current dude is gay and it's reflected in some of their runway shows and concepts 
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. They do be having a few hot pieces though.

Who originally started it?
 
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