Hide Ya Wives, Hide Ya Kids: Worldwide Coronavirus Pandemic!

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WASHINGTON STATE REPORTS FIRST U.S. DEATH FROM CORONAVIRUS

DEATH OCCURRED IN KING COUNTY WASHINGTON

R.I.P.




Statement from King County Public Health in Washington state, confirming multiple new cases of coronavirus, including 1 death. Press briefing at 1 p.m. PT

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[casper90403]

not saying that I’m not worried about this virus and its spread. Just adding that seasonal flu kills 291,000 to 646,000 people worldwide each year

again, this is not equal. The percent of those that get the flu and die is much lower than those that get coronavirus and die.

Or am i wrong?

Would you rather get the flu or the corona virus? I know the answer.

SO i'm going to be overly cautious about everything when it comes to this virus. Preparing for the worst but will never be fully prepared is my mindset.

 

[calibeebee]

Where are you guys seeing these numbers of people infected with the virus vs died? And what is the percentage with the seasonal flu?

 

[jkballer5]

Supposed to fly to Australia on Monday for a couple days then head back home. Kinda worried it will hit the fan and I’ll get stuck there if they starting restricting flights into the US.

 

[whatscomplex]

BuT tHiS iS nO mOrE dAnGeRoUs ThAn ThE fLu!

- y’all

So you think this is a dangerous virus but you thought it was good advice to go around telling everyone that only Asians can die from it?

YoU oNlY hAvE tO wOrRy If YoU'rE aSiAn.

 

[Belgium]

percent of what? Infected vs dead? Source?

Fatality rate. COVID-19's fatality rate is much much higher than the flu, the latter is just a lot more common.

 

[calibeebee]

Fatality rate. COVID-19's fatality rate is much much higher than the flu, the latter is just a lot more common.

source.

 

[QU!K]

So you think this is a dangerous virus but you thought it was good advice to go around telling everyone that only Asians can die from it?

YoU oNlY hAvE tO wOrRy If YoU'rE aSiAn.

At the time it was true, when it started spreading in iran and Italy I already corrected myself.

 

[QU!K]

percent of what? Infected vs dead? Source?

Mortality Rate as of Feb. 20 in China (findings from the Report of the WHO-China Joint Mission)
The Report of the WHO-China Joint Mission published on Feb. 28 by WHO [12] is based on 55,924 laboratory confirmed cases. The report notes that "The Joint Mission acknowledges the known challenges and biases of reporting crude CFR early in an epidemic" (see also our discussion on: How to calculate the mortality rate during an outbreak). Here are its findings on Case Fatality Ratio, or CFR (the mortality rate):

"As of 20 February, 2,114 of the 55,924laboratory confirmed cases have died (crude fatality ratio [CFR: 3.8%) (note: at least some of whom were identified using a case definition that included pulmonary disease).

The overall CFR varies by location and intensity of transmission (i.e. 5.8% in Wuhan vs. 0.7% in other areas in China).

In China, the overall CFR was higher in the early stages of the outbreak (17.3% for cases with symptom onset from 1-10 January) and has reduced over time to 0.7% for patients with symptom onset after 1 February. " [12]

The Joint Mission noted that the standard of care has evolved over the course of the outbreak.

Coronavirus Death Rate (COVID-19) - Worldometer

Case Fatality Rate (CFR), Infection Fatality Rate (IFR), and Crude Mortality Rate (CMR) latest estimates for the COVID-19 disease from the SARS-CoV-2 virus originating from Wuhan, China

www.worldometers.info

 

[tkthafm]

It's not simply about the total number of deaths..... "just the flu" doesn't lead to hundreds of millions of people locked in quarantine, mass travel shutdowns and near complete collapses of economic activity.

 

[QU!K]

calibeebee

Yes, it is worse than the flu: busting the coronavirus myths

The truth about the protective value of face masks and how easy it is to catch Covid-19

www.theguardian.com

 

[shibadekobe]

Most of us if not all here will be fine...even if we contract COVID19...just saw a 65 yr old patient who tested positive on Fox News quarantined in Nebraska, say that it felt "weaker than a mild Cold." The concern is the asymptomatic contagious period. We can spread it to our grandparents, our diabetic uncles, our parents who's fighting a pre-existing condition...from Hard Data, if they contract COVID19, it will be devastating.

 

[QU!K]

Death rate
So far this flu season, about 0.05% of people who caught the flu have died from the virus in the U.S., according to CDC data.


The death rate for COVID-19 appears to be higher than that of the flu.

In the study published Feb. 18 in the China CDC Weekly, researchers found a death rate from COVID-19 to be around 2.3% in mainland China. That's much higher than the death rate linked to flu, which is typically around 0.1% in the U.S., according to The New York Times.


Even so, the death rate for COVID-19 varied by location and an individual’s age, among other factors. For instance, in Hubei Province, the epicenter of the outbreak, the death rate reached 2.9%; in other provinces of China, that rate was just 0.4%. In addition, older adults have been hit the hardest. The death rate soars to 14.8% in those 80 and older; among those ages 70 to 79, the COVID-19 death rate in China seems to be about 8%; it’s 3.6% for those ages 60 to 69; 1.3% for 50 to 59; 0.4% for the age group 40 to 49; and just 0.2% for people ages 10 to 39. Nobody 9 and under has died of this coronavirus to date.

How does the new coronavirus compare with the flu?

Research so far indicates that COVID-19 spreads more easily and has a higher death rate than the flu.

www.livescience.com

calibeebee

 

[Mister Meaner]

It's only a matter of time before travel to most countries is restricted.

 

[Belgium]

source.

COVID-19's fatality rate is more than a dozen times higher. Hypothetically, if the coronavirus was as commonplace as the flu, you'd be looking at a gigantic pile of deaths by comparison.
https://apnews.com/c0010098706eb0f51f735bfa21fc6033

 

[whatscomplex]

At the time it was true, when it started spreading in iran and Italy I already corrected myself.

At no time was it true.

 

[QU!K]

At no time was it true.

At the time only Asians had died.

 

[shibadekobe]

New England Journal of Medicine Dr. Fauci

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMe2002387?query=featured_home

he latest threat to global health is the ongoing outbreak of the respiratory disease that was recently given the name Coronavirus Disease 2019 (Covid-19). Covid-19 was recognized in December 2019.1 It was rapidly shown to be caused by a novel coronavirus that is structurally related to the virus that causes severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS). As in two preceding instances of emergence of coronavirus disease in the past 18 years2 — SARS (2002 and 2003) and Middle East respiratory syndrome (MERS) (2012 to the present) — the Covid-19 outbreak has posed critical challenges for the public health, research, and medical communities.

In their Journal article, Li and colleagues3 provide a detailed clinical and epidemiologic description of the first 425 cases reported in the epicenter of the outbreak: the city of Wuhan in Hubei province, China. Although this information is critical in informing the appropriate response to this outbreak, as the authors point out, the study faces the limitation associated with reporting in real time the evolution of an emerging pathogen in its earliest stages. Nonetheless, a degree of clarity is emerging from this report. The median age of the patients was 59 years, with higher morbidity and mortality among the elderly and among those with coexisting conditions (similar to the situation with influenza); 56% of the patients were male. Of note, there were no cases in children younger than 15 years of age. Either children are less likely to become infected, which would have important epidemiologic implications, or their symptoms were so mild that their infection escaped detection, which has implications for the size of the denominator of total community infections.

On the basis of a case definition requiring a diagnosis of pneumonia, the currently reported case fatality rate is approximately 2%.4 In another article in the Journal, Guan et al.5 report mortality of 1.4% among 1099 patients with laboratory-confirmed Covid-19; these patients had a wide spectrum of disease severity. If one assumes that the number of asymptomatic or minimally symptomatic cases is several times as high as the number of reported cases, the case fatality rate may be considerably less than 1%. This suggests that the overall clinical consequences of Covid-19 may ultimately be more akin to those of a severe seasonal influenza (which has a case fatality rate of approximately 0.1%) or a pandemic influenza (similar to those in 1957 and 196 rather than a disease similar to SARS or MERS, which have had case fatality rates of 9 to 10% and 36%, respectively.2

The efficiency of transmission for any respiratory virus has important implications for containment and mitigation strategies. The current study indicates an estimated basic reproduction number (R0) of 2.2, which means that, on average, each infected person spreads the infection to an additional two persons. As the authors note, until this number falls below 1.0, it is likely that the outbreak will continue to spread. Recent reports of high titers of virus in the oropharynx early in the course of disease arouse concern about increased infectivity during the period of minimal symptoms.6,7

China, the United States, and several other countries have instituted temporary restrictions on travel with an eye toward slowing the spread of this new disease within China and throughout the rest of the world. The United States has seen a dramatic reduction in the number of travelers from China, especially from Hubei province. At least on a temporary basis, such restrictions may have helped slow the spread of the virus: whereas 78,191 laboratory-confirmed cases had been identified in China as of February 26, 2020, a total of 2918 cases had been confirmed in 37 other countries or territories.4 As of February 26, 2020, there had been 14 cases detected in the United States involving travel to China or close contacts with travelers, 3 cases among U.S. citizens repatriated from China, and 42 cases among U.S. passengers repatriated from a cruise ship where the infection had spread.8 However, given the efficiency of transmission as indicated in the current report, we should be prepared for Covid-19 to gain a foothold throughout the world, including in the United States. Community spread in the United States could require a shift from containment to mitigation strategies such as social distancing in order to reduce transmission. Such strategies could include isolating ill persons (including voluntary isolation at home), school closures, and telecommuting where possible.9

A robust research effort is currently under way to develop a vaccine against Covid-19.10 We anticipate that the first candidates will enter phase 1 trials by early spring. Therapy currently consists of supportive care while a variety of investigational approaches are being explored.11 Among these are the antiviral medication lopinavir–ritonavir, interferon-1β, the RNA polymerase inhibitor remdesivir, chloroquine, and a variety of traditional Chinese medicine products.11 Once available, intravenous hyperimmune globulin from recovered persons and monoclonal antibodies may be attractive candidates to study in early intervention. Critical to moving the field forward, even in the context of an outbreak, is ensuring that investigational products are evaluated in scientifically and ethically sound studies.12

Every outbreak provides an opportunity to gain important information, some of which is associated with a limited window of opportunity. For example, Li et al. report a mean interval of 9.1 to 12.5 days between the onset of illness and hospitalization. This finding of a delay in the progression to serious disease may be telling us something important about the pathogenesis of this new virus and may provide a unique window of opportunity for intervention. Achieving a better understanding of the pathogenesis of this disease will be invaluable in navigating our responses in this uncharted arena. Furthermore, genomic studies could delineate host factors that predispose persons to acquisition of infection and disease progression.

The Covid-19 outbreak is a stark reminder of the ongoing challenge of emerging and reemerging infectious pathogens and the need for constant surveillance, prompt diagnosis, and robust research to understand the basic biology of new organisms and our susceptibilities to them, as well as to develop effective countermeasures.

 

[calibeebee]

Thank you QU!K and Belgium

 

[QU!K]

@danikerhino with the recent developments in Italy and Iran it’s now time for everyone to be concerned.

so what I said about only be worried if you’re asian is now incorrect

Still seems to be more dangerous to the elderly and those with preexisting conditions at this time though.

 

[shibadekobe]

At no time was it true.

If you go back to the earlier pages, you'll find the data...for the first 8-12 weeks of COVID19, 100% of the deaths, according to Johns Hopkins, was of Asian descent. Of the deaths, 99% were of Chinese descent...again...at that time. Also, the non Asians who contracted this, recovered quickly. There was a German guy who recovered in 3 days, went to work, but infected his co workers.

 

[shibadekobe]

Dr. Fauci for President!!

 

[whatscomplex]

At the time only Asians had died.

If you go back to the earlier pages, you'll find the data...for the first 8-12 weeks of COVID19, 100% of the deaths, according to Johns Hopkins, was of Asian descent. Of the deaths, 99% were of Chinese descent...again...at that time. Also, the non Asians who contracted this, recovered quickly. There was a German guy who recovered in 3 days, went to work, but infected his co workers.

The overwhelming majority of Asians who contract this also recover.

Only Asians dying from a virus that is based in Asia doesn't mean and never meant that only Asians can die from it. That was a huge leap in logic that was always incorrect but is just 100% proven incorrect now.

 

[shibadekobe]

Only Asians dying from a virus that is based in Asia doesn't mean and never meant that only Asians can die from it.

Non-Asians, at that time, were also contracting it as well...check out the vids posted from Dr. John Campbell...he had a very detailed video of the German patient's ordeal.

 

[shibadekobe]

Luxembourg reports first case of coronavirus