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^ James White is definitely an athlete, but I can NOT say, "James White has great athleticism."
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James White is definitely an athlete, but I can NOT say, "James White has great athleticism."
You cannot jump from the free throw line, take a basketball, and dunk it all in the same motion...and not have great athleticism.
Originally Posted by 23ska909red02
^ James White is definitely an athlete, but I can NOT say, "James White has great athleticism."
James White is definitely an athlete, but I can NOT say, "James White has great athleticism."
How does that even make sense? Athleticism is derived from athlete right? How can he be a great athlete without great athleticism? That's likebeing a female without a +#@%$.
You guys would call James White has great athleticism? Speed, coordination, body control, endurance, patience, knowledge... all kinds of things. The people that encompass all of those (and the gamut of other criteria I haven't mentioned but are still part of the word 'athleticism') are people I would say have great athleticism.
These don't deal with athleticism. Those are skills. You learn those. They have nothing to do with being an athlete. You don't learnathleticism.
You're honestly trying to say a guy, who'd be an Olympic qualifier is an athlete but doesn't hold "great athleticism"? Youserious?So what do you considered the rest of USATF?Somebody posted a video of Ato Bolden in some of his training (the "Whichsport has the best athletes?" thread), and I'm pretty sure I'd consider that great athleticism, regardless of his coordination, patience orknowledge.
Baree23warD:
How is that not an athlete?
Who in the world said he wasn't an athlete?
Originally Posted by 23ska909red02
Someone excels at baking cakes, which also makes them good at baking bread, pastries, brownies, and other doughy items.
But they're terrible at cooking meals, making cocktails, making menus, organizing the cooking that goes on in a kitchen, timing the food preparation to line up with each other.
Would you call that person a great chef? (or Basketball/Football/T&F/Tennis/Soccer player? No we wouldn't. But that's not the question.)
I understand that they would still deserve to be called a chef or a cook, but a great chef? A great cook?
The thread title asks if hops = athleticism.
The answer is no; no, hops is not all there is to athleticism, just like making cakes is not all there is to cooking. Someone who excels at making cakes is a cook, yes... but saying 'making cakes = all there is to being a cook' is as true as 'hops = all there is to athleticism'.
You guys would call James White has great athleticism? Speed, coordination, body control, endurance, patience, knowledge... all kinds of things. The people that encompass all of those (and the gamut of other criteria I haven't mentioned but are still part of the word 'athleticism') are people I would say have great athleticism.
Mental. Learned
Physical. Not learned. Raw athleticism
When you combine both, you don't get an athlete, you get a great player or participant of sport. The athleticism is just the physical part.
Knowing you're defender - Being able to make 23 footers consistently - Making good decisions on the court
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Skilled smart Player
Fast runner - High Jumper - Great Endurance
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Great athleticism
Combine them and we get what you're talking about, an exceptional participant of a certain field of play. We're talking about athleticism only though.
If you have crazy hops, you deserve to be praised for your athleticism?
yes
Originally Posted by 23ska909red02
So hops = athleticism, then? That's it? If you have crazy hops, you deserve to be praised for your athleticism?
I just read the title, 'hops = athleticism', and I can't say 'Yes', because there's more to athleticism than hops.
Originally Posted by 1D
I seen wide recieves with great athleticism but little to no hops. can you have athleticism a no hops? Yes. It's not a hard concept. Related yes but no they are not the same exact thing.