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Really? These articles would disagree with you.Originally Posted by TacC4
If you don't mind the rest of us opening this thread back up, we'd like to point out that "Side C" is actually the most logical perspective to take:Originally Posted by Nike Star Jay
I'll go ahead and predict how this thread will go:
Side A:
Why does it matter if he's illegal? He's a human like you. We're all illegals if you think about it. Illegal immigrants provide so much to our economy. Besides, they only take the jobs lazy Americans don't want. Do you want to pick strawberries?
Side B:
There are too many illegal immigrants here, that's why! Send them all back to Mexico, they don't speak English and they are causing us too much trouble.
/thread
Illegal immigrants have more to lose from any run-in with the law. The driver's status as an illegal immigrant is almost certainly what caused him to drive off. Do legal citizens take part in hit-and-run accidents every day? Absolutely. But most of them do it because they are afraid of getting in trouble, the rest of them probably just panic. OP's point, whether it was trolling or not, was that illegal immigrants will get in more trouble (losing your livelihood sounds pretty bad) than the average citizen. Its not the greatest anti-illegal immigration argument, but its a valid point and its going to resonate with a lot of white America.
KING OF ERV wrote:
RicanChulo wrote:
ooIRON MANoo wrote:
http://findarticles.com/p...s_19950401/ai_n10191388/
http://www.newsobserver.c...ing-for-hit-and-run.html
http://www.news-leader.co...+accident+in+same+night+
so next think before you post/speak
Thank you for making my point. The first story you linked to involved a 17 year old driving a stolen car and the second story involved a 16 year old driver. One's status as an illegal immigrant does not necessarily make them more or less likely to be involved in a hit-and-run incident. But it does give them an additional incentive to flee any scene where law enforcement officials will be involved. That's the only point that needs to be made here. It has nothing to do with race, it has everything to do with the psychology of being on the wrong side of a crime.
SIRIUS LEE HANDSOM touched on a great point. Why do some of you find it necessary for all Hispanics to defend illegal immigration? I love the "stop snitching" mentality. Makes it much easier to blame your problems on the government.
ooIRON MANoo wrote:
Another thread where NT'ers get to justify their closet racism.
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Replace the term"illegal alien" with any other legal demographic and the statement makes you a racist.
I understand being upset about this thread and general statements about illegal immigrants, but you have long since departed from making logical arguments. One's status as an illegal immigrant has nothing to do with race. Illegal immigrants can come from any country in the world, and belong to any race. You're the one who has already replaced "illegal immigrant" with "Mexican." If anyone is guilty of stereotyping here, its probably you.
moneyisthemotive wrote:
RicanChulo wrote:
SMH. I hope that arizona law spreads to all states. Lets get rid of all these parasites.
considering the Arizona law is nothing more than a re-statement of the federal law, you already got your wish ... the only thing Arizona is doing is calling the government out for not enforcing it
Looks like someone actually read SB 1070. That makes 2 of us...
SuperAntigen wrote:
There are numerous cases of hit-and-runs everyday; I suspect that an overwhelming majority of these are committed by legal naturalized U.S citizens, and yet I don't see any threads popping up about these.
So what does that say? That as a community (NT) within a larger community (the U.S), we turn a blind eye to those crimes committed by "legal" aliens and harp on those committed by "illegal" aliens? I mean, that's exactly what this thread is about right? We're playing favoritism--right?
"Heather Locklier and a host of other people recently committed hit-and-runs...but they're all naturalized citizens so let's not demonize them. Let's instead focus on the one hit-and-run that just so happens to involve a stupid "illegal", making sure to use this particular incident to demonstrate just how vile, despicable, and dangerous ALL of these "illegal" aliens are."
In general, I agree with what you're saying. To be fair though, the overwhelming majority of drivers are legal citizens. That's just a matter of percentages. The reason nobody cares about Heather Locklear is because we already know blondes are dumb; there's no reason to start a new thread. For that matter, I'm on the record as saying most Americans are terrible drivers, regardless of hair color. So the distinction between the "ordinary" hit-and-run and this incident is that the status of illegal immigrants is still up for debate and this adds fuel to the fire, whether its reasonable or not.
REDUCE523 wrote:
RicanChulo wrote:
Sorry i hurt so many feelings.lol Its goin to be a wrap for illegals in the next few years look at the polls Americans have had enough. Stories like the 1 i posted is just fuel on the fire.
So yall just stay salty real change is comming "change we can believe in"
Paz i buenas noches.
Its funny you say that because in about 20 years we will be the majority not the minority. No matter what you do like it or not these people are not leaving. So get used to it. Its funny you think there is a wall high enough or enough cops to stop the flow if you put every single border patrol and every single military personnel at the border people will find a way. So laugh you ignorant +!%+ because one day you will be the minority and we will be deciding what to do with you.
This type of ignorant and hate-fueled mentality is what makes most Americans opposed to illegal immigration. Just think about what you're saying. In about 20 years, Mexicans are going to come into the United States and take over and begin telling Americans to jump. I can't think of anything that would make Americans more willing to support legislation like SB 1070. Way to scuttle your own ship.
igotmineatross wrote:
OP your logic is misguided. what if thread read "African American driver hits 4 teens blah blah" then should we get rid of all AAs? Though some scumbags may be illegal, not all illegals are scumbags. think twice before u say something.
You are also misguided. What if the thread read "Software engineer hits 4 teens..."? Who cares. It doesn't read any of these hypothetical titles. It is what it is and there's no connection between being a software engineer and fleeing an accident. OP's post simply highlights the belief that there is a connection between being an illegal immigrant and fleeing an accident.
Does anyone know of a BBS where people discuss relevant issues and those arguing one either side aren't motivated strictly by race? I'd really love to have a logical debate about illegal immigration because there are valid points on both sides. But because I'm white and opposed to opening the border, I'm sure NT will label me a racist. When the US attempts to "liberate" Iraq, its racially motivated. When the US doesn't attempt to liberate Darfur, its racially motivated. I don't think I've ever been in another environment where its so difficult to explain your rationale.
you said all that and still said NOTHING.
NT is a bunch of closet racists. Period. Let me or iron man make a thread with an asian/flip being the hit and run suspect it would either be locked or deleted. The arizona law is targeting only one race not all illegals. THATS FACT. so go to hell with all this talk about them imposing a federal law thats already in place. Even their own hill billy %%% sheriff made a comment about seeing men in front of HOME DEPOT and for it to be reasonable that they were illegally here...how the hell is that not against the law. We might as well go racially profile asians at donut shops and flipinos at hospitals