Beruseruku Desu
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KanyIZZY
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Man, I'm sitting here looking at bootcamps for software engineering and coding to change my career and get my foot in the door. This sounds disheartening. I would hate to change pathways and invest time and money after having a masters for this to be a reality.
I get that some of these for profit type product businesses don't always have top job security but these numbers hitting ALL brand names is scary to me. I'm not detracted yet.. this happens in all fields but I just don't want to be out of work and stuck.
I get that some of these for profit type product businesses don't always have top job security but these numbers hitting ALL brand names is scary to me. I'm not detracted yet.. this happens in all fields but I just don't want to be out of work and stuck.
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I wouldn't feel detracted unless you're planning to half *** it. Big tech aren't the only companies around and there's still a shortage of qualified folks in certain roles.
MakeNTGreatAgain
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Thats pretty close to what Apex did down here. People who were local didnt even get told, literally some coworkers of mine came back to work Monday to be told why are you here? Yall were fired Friday and be escorted off. Fyi the site lead is from a different company so he was unaware Apex wasnt telling us. Only reason I found out 10 minutes before 4 on Friday was because I had made it off the phones into the field (if you kill it on phones with the single call resolutions and under 15 min call times and show general profiency you get to go “to the field” which is just a real office in a different building where you work out the remedy queue of escallations and dont have to be on the phones anymore) and so he was asking me when i was going to turn in my new office key and equipment
But remote shutting down the laptop thats ruthless for no reason
But remote shutting down the laptop thats ruthless for no reason
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Beruseruku Desu
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sys admin was prob busy all day
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As a software engineering bootcamp graduate, and as an employed developer for 4 years, I would strongly urge you to look into free alternatives.
Something like Leon Noel’s #100Devs will provide you with just as much knowledge and infinitely more industry game, without costing you a penny.
#100Devs - leonnoel.com
Managing Director of Engineering @ Resilient Coders. Distinguished Faculty @ General Assembly. I train people underrepresented in tech for high growth careers as software engineers.
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I wouldn’t pay attention to any macro economic factors at all.
It’s all just noise, and the road to learning software development is long and hard enough as it is. Plus, the market for junior devs is completely saturated - there is no shortage of juniors or hopefuls wanting to enter the profession. It’s an uphill battle regardless.
The reality is we could officially enter and exit from an economic recession before the average person entering a bootcamp today, with no prior programming knowledge, is actually employable.
Not trying to discourage, just emphasizing that learning to be a SWE is a long game, almost entirely about persistent will power, and to be cautious of paid bootcamps in most cases.
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So is it mainly non technical IT jobs that are getting cut or what? Large companies or all around?
Hearing things happen like this so often in the IT space makes it frustrating to hear. Seems like IT jobs aren’t as secure as people expect them to be.
Hearing things happen like this so often in the IT space makes it frustrating to hear. Seems like IT jobs aren’t as secure as people expect them to be.
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Nice, bring someone else into your bad idea so they can get fired too. Hope you have money to cover their downtime.
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If you want to get fired, sure.
Your company can monitor your activity. If you're not getting any work done, it's gonna be an issue sooner or later.
Moheezy
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Yup! I own my own Salesforce implementation agency so I work very closely with Salesforce reps.
Pre-pandemic, there were 18 Sales reps in the Healthcare industry in the Toronto office alone. By 2022, there were 52 Sales reps in the Healthcare industry.
There was a boom in demand for healthcare companies to go digital but now the market seems to be correcting itself.
Shopify did the exact same thing, they saw a boom in demand for eCommerce and overhired. They were the first company to layoff a ton. 6 months ago they laid off 1000 employees and they mentioned that they did bet on the continuing serge but that was clearly not the case.
This is a correction in the market and I don't believe that anyone studying software engineering should worry for too long tbh.
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Your company probably knows and monitors you are on NT during work hours.
Lmao. Damn. I guess no workarounds for the monitoring. I’m remote so I definitely don’t do any browsing on my company laptop. Got my personal laptop right here for the Netflix and my ps5. Lol. I’d be getting work done. I’d physically be somewhere abroad, while my company laptop would be in the US. I’d remote into my company machine by using Chrome and not using other software/methods. I’m guessing the issue is that they’d see me remoting in and then the location where I’m remoting in from.
Any type of routers that have like a built in vpn that’s undetectable? Any workaround for this? I understand the tax issues with my being abroad, it just feels dumb not to travel when I’m getting my work done and I’m literally working using only my laptop and an additional monitor. I’ve gotta 15m meeting and after that, I’m free all day most weeks from any interaction. Just submitting my work, and if anything, messaging since no one wants to call/ meet. And if we have to, it’s always camera turned off. Lol.
Any type of routers that have like a built in vpn that’s undetectable? Any workaround for this? I understand the tax issues with my being abroad, it just feels dumb not to travel when I’m getting my work done and I’m literally working using only my laptop and an additional monitor. I’ve gotta 15m meeting and after that, I’m free all day most weeks from any interaction. Just submitting my work, and if anything, messaging since no one wants to call/ meet. And if we have to, it’s always camera turned off. Lol.
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Thats a whole lot of wasted time and trouble just to go traveling
Beruseruku Desu
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Do you work in IT?
Any decent IT department will know if youre on a VPN or not. VPN isnt some cloak of invisibility. Wireshark alone is enough to see if youre on a VPN.
Moheezy
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Do you live in the west coast?
I've spent 5 days on January in this cold winter. The rest I've spent it abroad in warm countries and is 100% worth it.
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Traveling abroad is where it gets dicey. One place I worked for as soon as you log in internationally you’ll be immediately locked out 
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There was a sales rep responsible for a specific local region, his ip showed up in South Africa so naturally it was locked and he had to call in to get unlocked. This was long before covid and remote work was more accepted. Thing is though if he was a high performing sales rep they wouldn't have cared, they rolled the red carpet out for high performers.
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We all like to get one over on the man. But sometimes it’s not worth it especially with all the employee cuts in the thread.
