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He had a nice rookie year, and wasn't he was playing hurt before he went out this season?
He had a nice rookie year, and wasn't he was playing hurt before he went out this season?
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Originally Posted by Durden7
Nahhh, Id be saying the same thing about anyone in the same situation as Darren.Originally Posted by Mister Friendly
Seriously is Darren McFadden your relative or something?
Anybody with some sense knows money kinda correlates to if a player is a bust or not. Why dont you see 4-7 rounders in the top 10 bust countdowns? Because they you dont expect much from them.
Why do 1st and 2nd rounders get paid so much money ? Because you expect alot from them.
Money has nothing to do with this. Of course you dont expect much from a 4-7th rounder but money doesnt matter. Obviously you expect more from a 1st rounder than a 4th rounder but how much money that player makes is irrelevant.
They get paid so much money because of the awful system the NFL has for rookies.
Darren (and everyone in his draft class) havent even been in the league long enough to call a bust.
yeah he ended up on a real dynasty.Originally Posted by GSDOUBLEU
Thank God Crabtree didnt end up in this black hole.
Originally Posted by Mister Friendly
Durden7 wrote:
Nahhh, Id be saying the same thing about anyone in the same situation as Darren.Originally Posted by Mister Friendly
Seriously is Darren McFadden your relative or something?
Anybody with some sense knows money kinda correlates to if a player is a bust or not. Why dont you see 4-7 rounders in the top 10 bust countdowns? Because they you dont expect much from them.
Why do 1st and 2nd rounders get paid so much money ? Because you expect alot from them.
Money has nothing to do with this. Of course you dont expect much from a 4-7th rounder but money doesnt matter. Obviously you expect more from a 1st rounder than a 4th rounder but how much money that player makes is irrelevant.
They get paid so much money because of the awful system the NFL has for rookies.
Darren (and everyone in his draft class) havent even been in the league long enough to call a bust.
Originally Posted by Alan Garner
This is what I'm talking about, I'm a raider fan btw...
Originally Posted by 3 Lombardis
An ex-Razorback football player who is a business colleague of mine and has connections with University of Arkansas booster clubs told me at the start of the season that:
* Mc Fadden believes (like Randy Moss) that there is something very "fishy" in Oakland ... he's pretty much convinced that the team will never win with this management/coaching/administration.
* McFadden is concerned that his association with the Raiders will hurt his career.
* McFadden is even more concearned about getting hurt playing here before he can get his career off the ground.
* McFadden wants out of Oakland in a bad way.
My colleague predicted that McFadden will never play a full season here because he will take any opportunity to "preserve" himself on IR. He will bolt the first chance he gets to a team that gives him a chance to be successful and win some games. He predicted that McFadden will become a completely different player ... a substantial star once he leaves here.
** I am not vouching for what my colleague said ... I don't know if what he says is just rumors or he has a reliable source. I'm just repeating what he told me. **
Originally Posted by sonunox34
Originally Posted by Alan Garner
This is what I'm talking about, I'm a raider fan btw...
Originally Posted by 3 Lombardis
An ex-Razorback football player who is a business colleague of mine and has connections with University of Arkansas booster clubs told me at the start of the season that:
* Mc Fadden believes (like Randy Moss) that there is something very "fishy" in Oakland ... he's pretty much convinced that the team will never win with this management/coaching/administration.
* McFadden is concerned that his association with the Raiders will hurt his career.
* McFadden is even more concearned about getting hurt playing here before he can get his career off the ground.
* McFadden wants out of Oakland in a bad way.
My colleague predicted that McFadden will never play a full season here because he will take any opportunity to "preserve" himself on IR. He will bolt the first chance he gets to a team that gives him a chance to be successful and win some games. He predicted that McFadden will become a completely different player ... a substantial star once he leaves here.
** I am not vouching for what my colleague said ... I don't know if what he says is just rumors or he has a reliable source. I'm just repeating what he told me. **
it was posted on another forum but I wouldn't be surprised at at all if this has any truth to it.
you have a younger version of our owner. except our owner was actually competent when he was snyders age. hes not going to go to washington andbecome a pro bowlerOriginally Posted by SoleOnEyez
I really have a feeling he is going to be in Washington soon. We get a line and it would be. Im a huge Mcfadden fan tho.
If Randy Moss can't shine in oakland. Nobody can.
hes in a way better position than DHBOriginally Posted by In Yo Nostril
yeah he ended up on a real dynasty.Originally Posted by GSDOUBLEU
Thank God Crabtree didnt end up in this black hole.
You cant call them busts. Well the majority of fans and a lot of media are fools when it comes to sports. (Fans especially)Originally Posted by Durden7
Originally Posted by Mister Friendly
Durden7 wrote:
Nahhh, Id be saying the same thing about anyone in the same situation as Darren.Originally Posted by Mister Friendly
Seriously is Darren McFadden your relative or something?
Anybody with some sense knows money kinda correlates to if a player is a bust or not. Why dont you see 4-7 rounders in the top 10 bust countdowns? Because they you dont expect much from them.
Why do 1st and 2nd rounders get paid so much money ? Because you expect alot from them.
Money has nothing to do with this. Of course you dont expect much from a 4-7th rounder but money doesnt matter. Obviously you expect more from a 1st rounder than a 4th rounder but how much money that player makes is irrelevant.
They get paid so much money because of the awful system the NFL has for rookies.
Darren (and everyone in his draft class) havent even been in the league long enough to call a bust.
C'mon son! Vernon Gholston is a bust! and McFadden isnt far behind. I when I talk about the money thats how alot fans and media feel like.
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Wilson-Gholston-still-not-producing-for-Jets.html
If money doesnt matter why after every first round pick signs they report how much money they'll make? Because money equals expectations.
Originally Posted by Mister Friendly
Come on man,Most people including NFL personnel men would classify those guys busts so far.
When can you classify players as busts then? Its not rocket science or solving world hunger, its easy to see if a first round guy giving so much oppurtunity to establish himself can play.
What recent draft picks are busts then? Is JaMarcus a bust? Is Brady Quinn a bust? Jarvis Moss? Bobby Carpenter?
Originally Posted by Durden7
Originally Posted by Mister Friendly
Come on man,Most people including NFL personnel men would classify those guys busts so far.
When can you classify players as busts then? Its not rocket science or solving world hunger, its easy to see if a first round guy giving so much oppurtunity to establish himself can play.
What recent draft picks are busts then? Is JaMarcus a bust? Is Brady Quinn a bust? Jarvis Moss? Bobby Carpenter?
I doubt theyd classify them as busts. Theyre much smarter than the average fan.
You can classify a player as a bust later in their career. Its WAY too soon to even consider calling DMC a bust. I never said it was rocket science, but why be so quick to judge a player?
You cant call recent draft picks busts... you werent even listening to what ive been saying.
There is no set number of years to determine a bust.Originally Posted by Mister Friendly
Originally Posted by Durden7
Originally Posted by Mister Friendly
Come on man,Most people including NFL personnel men would classify those guys busts so far.
When can you classify players as busts then? Its not rocket science or solving world hunger, its easy to see if a first round guy giving so much oppurtunity to establish himself can play.
What recent draft picks are busts then? Is JaMarcus a bust? Is Brady Quinn a bust? Jarvis Moss? Bobby Carpenter?
I doubt theyd classify them as busts. Theyre much smarter than the average fan.
You can classify a player as a bust later in their career. Its WAY too soon to even consider calling DMC a bust. I never said it was rocket science, but why be so quick to judge a player?
You cant call recent draft picks busts... you werent even listening to what ive been saying.
No....I'm asking you when is a player a bust? 1yr, 2yrs or 3yrs? Who is a recent bust then?
Originally Posted by BostonThreeParty
Justin Fargas is better than DMC ALWAYS puts forth 100% effort, unlike DMC.
Originally Posted by SoHi 23
thats the worst case scenario and really if he really was like that I'm mad that a player doesnt care enough to confront him about it.