IS KOBE BRYANT...OVERRATED?

Iverson has similarly impressive scoring feats....5 consecutive 40 point games AS AS ROOKIE, 55 point playoff game, etc.
Several other players as well.
Jordan and Wilt's scoring feats obliterate that list.
And I acknowledged that he's a great scorer, he's not the best at that either though.

Wilt Obliterates every list but not Jordan. He never went above 69 points and never had 4 straight 50 point games.
 
No people are saying your trolling for calling him overated....saying he's not top 5 is reasonable, saying he's not even top 15 isn't
 
When have I ever posted about Kobe before?
But I can look at your avy and see why your jimmies are rustled.
I'm trolling for saying that Kobe ain't a top 5 all time player?
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Word. People swear that once u dispute comments like "kobe is the goat " or "right behind mj" arguement, your a lebron lover and kobe hater. Why cant you be just an objective basketball connoisseur who simply appreciates all facets of the game?
 
i feel kobe was better when he was cheating on his wife with younger girls, i need that kobe back, thats the kobe i know and love 
 
Fixed. a regular season mvp with a chip and another finals mvp puts him past chamberlin. Also , kobe will not be the best laker of all time until he averages 18,9,9. Magic did that in 81-82.  

Puts him past Chamberlain because despite being called dominant he lost 6 finals.

As for Magic. Just my opinion, but

Being a better all-time player =/= Being best player for a Franchise. Kobe is a better Laker. But in terms of skill Magic is a better player.
 
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-**** no one says
 
OP hes the greatest robin of all time. Its not a bad thing. Just facts.

Shaq 3 finals MVP. kobe 2.

Plus TIM DUNCAN won 3 finals MVP and didnt need both them dudes to win.

Also in kobe's prime dude couldnt get out of the 1st round. Got beat by the suns and didint even make the playoffs that one year.

inb4 he needed help. BRON JAMES took mike brown and a team full of scrubs to the finals. But kobe needs all time great to ride to the moon.:{

And dude is def not top 10. stop it/shaq
 
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When have I ever posted about Kobe before?
I wasn't specifically referring to you.

I'm just saying, if you've been on this forum long enough, you know this topic has come up enough times and the same people post in here with their same regurgitated stances.
But I can look at your avy and see why your jimmies are rustled.
I thought we as intellectual people moved past judging others based on their avatars, but I guess not. And you're looking at the wrong person if you think I'm one of those Kobe fans.
I'm trolling for saying that Kobe ain't a top 5 all time player? :lol
I'm no NBA historian, but he' probably in the 6-8 range, but there's time for him to move up. Personally, I don't care all that much at the moment where he ranks.

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Don't get me wrong, he's one of the most talented perimeter players in league history but the MJ comparisons and the way he's ranked ahead of other greats like Magic and even Shaq....I don't see it.
People crucify players like Iverson and Carmelo when they pretty much have the same impact on the game and flaws as Kobe.
He has been blessed with one of the most dominant big men ever, the greatest coach ever and in the second half of his career, close to and All-Star starting lineup....take all that away and he's just another All-NBA player, not a top 10 payer ever IMO.

What makes him individually, that much greater than say....Paul Pierce?

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Don't some of you ever get tired of arguing (trolling even) about the same thing over and over and over?

*sees join date and post count*

Maybe you need to go outside.

This is why you see the same thing over and over. You need a break brah.

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OP hes the greatest robin of all time. Its not a bad thing. Just facts.
Shaq 3 finals MVP. kobe 2.
Plus TIM DUNCAN won 3 finals MVP and didnt need both them dudes to win.
Also in kobe's prime dude couldnt get out of the 1st round. Got beat by the suns and didint even make the playoffs that one year.
inb4 he needed help. BRON JAMES took mike brown and a team full of scrubs to the finals. But kobe needs all time great to ride to the moon.
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And dude is def not top 10. stop it/shaq
+1 duncan is highly underrated due to the lack of flash in his game. Efficiency rules in the long run. 
 
Iverson and carmelo had the same impact as kobe? Lol really?


Dee bo I would say somthing to that but I already know ur schtick
 
and lol at dudes bringing up 81.

Isnt that a regular season game? so laker fans say they dont matter but when it comes to kome they do?
 
*sees join date and post count*
Maybe you need to go outside.
This is why you see the same thing over and over. You need a break brah.
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I thought we as intellectual people moved past judging others based on their post count, but I guess not.
 
I agree.

He doesn't make anybody on his team better.

If kobe had the same team MJ he would probably request a trade 3 games into the season.
 
9 straight 40+ games
13 straight 35+ games
4 straight 50+ games
81 point game
12 3's in a game
Most points in MSG 61 points
Out scored Dallas 62 -61 in 3 quarters
55 points in a half

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you cant show me a better resume than that. scoring wise.
Highest career postseason scoring average

Highest career NBA finals scoring average

Most 50 point playoff games

Most 40 point playoff games

Only player with consecutive 50 point playoff games

Most consecutive 45 point playoff games

Most consecutive 30 point NBA finals games

Most points in 1 playoff game
 
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Iverson and carmelo had the same impact as kobe? Lol really?


Dee bo I would say somthing to that but I already know ur schtick

Let me know. facts are facts. kobe only has 2 finals mvp but hes better then DUNCAN who has 3?

shaq and kobe where teammates but superman won all 3 finals MVP. They lose in 04 cause robin thought he was batman.

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Kobe's not overrated in the present day...the torch has been passed onto LeBron for several years now as the league's best player, and I don't think that's debatable. Many even put Kevin Durant ahead of Kobe. Surprisingly, Kobe's actually having one of his most efficient seasons so far this year.

As for all time whether or not Kobe is overrated, it's all subjective.

Not to make this a Kobe vs LeBron thread...but...
As a GM/owner, most would choose LeBron over Kobe. As a coach, most would rather have LeBron because he makes the job easier. As an NBA player, most would rather have LeBron as a teammate simply because he is more willing to get his teammates involved and doesn't always have the "me-first" mentality. Not saying Kobe is always a ball hog, but a lot of the time that appears to be the case.
At the end of the day, people have different opinions, and no one's absolutely right or wrong. :\
 
Iverson and carmelo had the same impact as kobe? Lol really?
Dee bo I would say somthing to that but I already know ur schtick
i think i understand what he's trying to say but he didnt execute it as well. Its kinda circumstatial ith kobe playing ewith elite post players for all his rings but he has maintained and added to his game yearly as well as staying healthy. i honestly thing when kobe calls it quits, he'll be top 10 all time. 
 
Kobe's not overrated in the present day...the torch has been passed onto LeBron for several years now as the league's best player, and I don't think that's debatable. Many even put Kevin Durant ahead of Kobe. Surprisingly, Kobe's actually having one of his most efficient seasons so far this year.
As for all time whether or not Kobe is overrated, it's all subjective.
Not to make this a Kobe vs LeBron thread...but...
As a GM/owner, most would choose LeBron over Kobe. As a coach, most would rather have LeBron because he makes the job easier. As an NBA player, most would rather have LeBron as a teammate simply because he is more willing to get his teammates involved and doesn't always have the "me-first" mentality. Not saying Kobe is always a ball hog, but a lot of the time that appears to be the case.
At the end of the day, people have different opinions, and no one's absolutely right or wrong.
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I %100 co-sign this as well. Love or hate the guy, Lebron is a pice of ******g work when it comes to the game of basketball. Its not recognized now cause we are in the midst of it. Kinda like 90's hip hop and the standard held in the era compared to the current crop of music available. Its all subjective at the end of the day. 
 
And Jordan couldn't win it without a Hall of Fame Scottie Pippen and Hall of Fame coach.

This argument that well look at Kobe's team is TIRED!

Lebron couldn't win it without 1, potentially 2 hall of Famers

Duncan couldn't win one without another hall of famer.. Or a Hall of Fame Coach

Magic couldn't win one without Kareem.

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Etc.

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It's like people don't watch the diarrhea that comes out of their mouth.
 
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And Jordan couldn't win it without a Hall of Fame Scottie Pippen and Hall of Fame coach.

This argument that well look at Kobe's team is TIRED!

Lebron couldn't win it without 1, potentially 2 hall of Famers

Duncan couldn't win one without another hall of famer.. Or a Hall of Fame Coach

Magic couldn't win one without Kareem.

Etc.

Etc.

Etc.

Wait are you talking about a over the hill David Robinson? You know guy that waited till a young duncan to lead the team to finally win a ring.

and Manu and Parker are not HOFers. will not NBA HOFers.

Manu was a 56 pick in 99 he was a nobody till Duncan made him better. Parker a 28 pick again Duncan made him better. Parker only won his finals MVP cause of boobie.

Ask pop who he owes his coaching success too. Duncan made him a HOF coach.

Check the vid. Never seen pop so happy.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=ho8OT89WI6w
 
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